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Subject: Why do we believe that friendship is a real thing?

Intended for civil discussion. If you're going to be close minded and post off topic post then just go in another thread
Note to Moderators: feel free to lock if it gets out of hand. It may be too much if a controversial for the Flood to handle but I'm willing to give it a shot

Ok so I was thinking today about this so called friendship. Why do we believe in something that doesn't exist? It just bugs me whenever someone talks about friendship beig real and contradicting every single fact in life.

Friendship is not real and is an illusion. There are no such thing as one guy being your loyal friend. You say that's not true but it is. Lets look at the facts shall we ( putting aside my personal experience ).

Childhood. People say that they have an awesome best friend and they tell their children to believe in friendship. However that is false, as soon as you graduate then 9/10 your "best friend" and all your friends will forget about you as soon as you drive off in the sunset with your diploma. You were no friends, if you were then the latter wouldn't happen. There is a reason to this and i will explain later. Right know we move on to college.

College. Everyone who believed in friendship said that true friends come in college and guess what? No. Unless y'all are close and get the same job even then it's not friendship, it's something. I'll explain later. As soon as you graduate college, you lose your "friends". Period.

Whenever people find a girlfriend they forget their friends, throw friendship out the window, and blast it with a Czech P9000. The reasoning is about to be explained here and right now.

Packs. What do I mean? Well the human race as a species stays in packs as natural instinct. Think about everything I'm about to say real closely. When we were prehistoric, we were nomads. We stuck in packs and still did after advancement. It is hardwared into us. It is our instinct and top priority of our subconscious. Our brain is a mystery, even we can't control it. Our brain decides what we like, who we are, etc. It makes us stick with another human being as defense. It chooses whether that person is worthy of protecting you through preference. Friendship is an illusion by the brain made by us in the old ages to explain the mutual, pack style relationship with another. And boy did they go way off in the explanation.

Friendship isn't real. Your "friends" are really just you and a group of humans in a pack for protection. Not for each other, but for yourself. That is your natural instinct, I can't stress enough how wrong it is to day friendship exists. You just gotta think. Think abou what I said. Think about your life.

Let me give you my personal experience.

I will admit, I was SO stupid to believe friendship was real and wasted my entire childhood on that stupid belief. Very first thing I remember is when I met these two kids at school and we become "friends", then a month later they beat till I was unconscious with a golf club I had and threw me on the street. Why? Becuase friendship don't exist. Only instinct for a pack and a strong one. I am boss led hearing. Their instincts saw me as weak. So their brains made them turn against me by using whatever idea made them do it. Such as just for laugh or paranoia. Both temptations you get from your subconscious. There are mod events but I will save them for later. I think you get my point.

Thanks for reading my post

  • 01.02.2013 8:38 PM PDT

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Friendship is magic. Magic is nonexistent.


Friendship isn't real.

  • 01.02.2013 8:41 PM PDT

Posted by: Vien Quitonmee
Friendship is magic. Magic is nonexistent.


Friendship isn't real.

Saw this post coming a 100 miles away.

  • 01.02.2013 8:42 PM PDT
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That..well, from a scientific stand-point, is very agreeable. Very good points, OP. I agree with a lot of this, I would never trust anyone more than 50% on my tier scale. I must say though, there are really good friends that exist. I'm talking Bruce Wayne and Ra's Al Ghul before Bruce Wayne disagrees with their execution policies.
It's simply very very VERY hard to find those people.

  • 01.02.2013 8:43 PM PDT

I didn't read every single word (just quickly scanned your post OP) but I really feel bad that you feel that way. Having close friends is such an amazing thing. I hope one day you'll meet someone who can show you how awesome it is to have people in your life who care about you more than anything.

  • 01.02.2013 8:44 PM PDT

Quod Erat Demonstrandum.

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Speaking of chuckles, let's all lol at IonicPaul, who makes friends with bugs to make up for his lack of human contact.

"If you want to be close-minded, then leave."
translates to
"I'm making an utterly biased post that no one's ever made because the idea behind it makes no sense when put to further speculation."

Friendship does exist. You just knew terrible people, sorry.

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  • 01.02.2013 8:45 PM PDT

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Damn the Flood is negative tonight.

  • 01.02.2013 8:45 PM PDT

On the Left

Godshatter: I can go all the way with someone without being attracted to them.
CamCamm: How does that work?
Godshatter: I'm easily aroused by anything that moves. It's a curse.
Brain says 'No, that's ugly', body says 'ugly is fine with me'.

lol. i see where youre coming from. but one very bad incident does not throw away the concept of friendship. sucks for you op. really. sucks you were beat to a pulp.

  • 01.02.2013 8:46 PM PDT

The friendship I have with my best friend is real.


Your post is wrong.

  • 01.02.2013 8:46 PM PDT
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I've known my best friend for 21 years. So OP is wrong.

  • 01.02.2013 8:48 PM PDT

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Posted by: xl OC Girl lx
I didn't read every single word (just quickly scanned your post OP) but I really feel bad that you feel that way. Having close friends is such an amazing thing. I hope one day you'll meet someone who can show you how awesome it is to have people in your life who care about you more than anything.

  • 01.02.2013 8:50 PM PDT


Posted by: Forthencho
That..well, from a scientific stand-point, is very agreeable. Very good points, OP. I agree with a lot of this, I would never trust anyone more than 50% on my tier scale. I must say though, there are really good friends that exist. I'm talking Bruce Wayne and Ra's Al Ghul before Bruce Wayne disagrees with their execution policies.
It's simply very very VERY hard to find those people.
maybe a long time ago. But now we are losing our values. And just becuase friendship is an illusion =/= we should have no values. Heck even wolves have values such as don't eat your own pup but that in itself is hardwared into us becuase well, it's pretty obvious. Anyway we are losing values becuase in the areas that have scarce resource. Our instincts become aggressive and our subconscious is forcing us to do things for the sale of our survival. It's like an override for the body to preven the more softer conscious from getting it killed through lack of making hard decisions. Ever hear of "he has no conscious, he is cold blooded" that's an example there.

  • 01.02.2013 8:50 PM PDT

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FriendShip is real. Even friendship online is real. I love you guys.

  • 01.02.2013 8:50 PM PDT

man i get an erection just lookin at my girl lol and i dnt hide it i mean she realy doesnt mind she actually likes it lol also it shoes you dont have ED problems (i think)

Truer words were never spoken

Um...because it is?

  • 01.02.2013 8:51 PM PDT

So if a friend dies for you and you only, they're not really your friend huh?

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You had negative experiences with "friends", ergo, friendship doesn't exist? Excellent logic.

  • 01.02.2013 8:53 PM PDT

If you want to go in that route, to the most basic raw instinct level, then basically friendship comes down to benefits. You go and attach yourself to people you feel will benefit you the most. It doesn't have to be a material benefit, it can also emotional benefits, or physical.

It sounds cynical but that's what friendship essentially is but it isn't as black and white as it sounds. All of this is underlying but we don't think about it and at the same time choose not to think about it, or isn't even something that comes up, ever, unless you're at the bad end of something that happened. If we all did, we'd all be as jaded as you are OP.

All that aside, you can't bash on friendship if you feel you've been wronged in your life.

  • 01.02.2013 8:55 PM PDT

Well when you treat the idea of friendship as a tangible thing that is completely separate from instinctual "pack" mentality, of course it isn't real, It's a word.

That's like saying sandwiches aren't real because all they are are bread and cheese.

Don't get me wrong OP, I do care and feel bad that you feel this way. I also get the feeling that no amount of sappy reassurance from a stranger on the internet will sway your outlook on society, but remember that while the majority can be inherently horrible, there's a lot of good people in the world, and there's a reason we invented a word for close-knit bonds that many of us share, even if in reality it's only a word and nothing more.

  • 01.02.2013 8:55 PM PDT

Generalizations.
Helping idiots hate other idiots since people have existed.


Posted by: County Bear

Friendship isn't real. Your "friends" are really just you and a group of humans in a pack for protection.


Well thank you Sherlock Holmes, no one could ever figure that out for themselves.

We are pack animals. We call the other members of the pack our "friends." We look out for our "friends" when they get into trouble because they are part of the pack, and the pack will look after me when I get into trouble.

Don't think that you're special OP, what you've said is pretty obvious...

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  • 01.02.2013 8:56 PM PDT


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So if a friend dies for you and you only, they're not really your friend huh?
just means their subconscious wasnt strong enough to defend said person. Not that it's a bad thing, from a point of view

  • 01.02.2013 8:57 PM PDT
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So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.

-Gandalf

I read your entire post, but this caught my attention out of everything:
Very first thing I remember is when I met these two kids at school and we become "friends", then a month later they beat till I was unconscious with a golf club I had and threw me on the street. Why? Becuase friendship don't exist. Only instinct for a pack and a strong one. I am boss led hearing. Their instincts saw me as weak. So their brains made them turn against me by using whatever idea made them do it. Anyone that treats you like that isn't your friend to begin with. That has nothing to do with 'traveling in packs' That's betrayal. I think those to kids must have -blam!- you up so bad that you can only retort to friends not being real that friendship doesn't exist and it's all a lie.

I am sorry for your traumatic experience, but you are wrong. You just need better friends in life, especially close friends that have your back at all times. Trust is a very hard thing to obtain and manage. I trust maybe 2 thirds of the human population. Everyone else, I've got my eye on them. They are going to be -blam!-s in life, however don't confuse those -blam!-s with friends because they're not your friends. Those two were not you friends to begin with.

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  • 01.02.2013 8:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: jacobwseibers
FriendShip is real. Even friendship online is real. I love you guys.
Well I hate you






...nah, just kidding. My hatred is highly reserved for only those who commit the most horrid atrocities towards me or the people i'm close to. My emotions are neutral towards you, though.

  • 01.02.2013 8:59 PM PDT

I'm starting to think OP needs a hug

  • 01.02.2013 8:59 PM PDT

Just do it my way. Either be the leader of the pack and use the pack instincts to your advantage, to make order within your circle of friends. Or try to make it by the "I scratch your back, you scratch mine" philosophy. Give only when you know you will receive.

  • 01.02.2013 9:00 PM PDT
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We are all going to get banned aren't we?

Well that might explain why i don't have too many friends then because I am the one doing all the protecting.

  • 01.02.2013 9:02 PM PDT

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