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Subject: Sony files patent to prevent used game sales

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I honestly don't see how a patent like that can be legal, and I'm not even sure how thats even a patent.

  • 01.03.2013 6:10 PM PDT

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Posted by: BACE
>buys games new
>never sells games

Sucks to be you guys

  • 01.03.2013 6:12 PM PDT
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More money for developers.

Why is that a bad thing?

  • 01.03.2013 6:13 PM PDT


Posted by: TomoK12

Posted by: BACE
>buys games new
>never sells games

Sucks to be you guys


almost all my games are bought new. That is besides the point though man.

I have 2 xbox consoles. I know plenty of other households and families that have 2 of the same console. So you are telling me you would not be able to play the game on both consoles and you'd rather have to buy two copies?!?

thats just bull.

  • 01.03.2013 6:16 PM PDT

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Posted by: brandorobot
If this happens I might just have to go exclusively to PC.

Where the system allows no used games at all? Sound logic

  • 01.03.2013 6:18 PM PDT
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Posted by: iTz Hermione

Posted by: TomoK12

Posted by: BACE
>buys games new
>never sells games

Sucks to be you guys


almost all my games are bought new. That is besides the point though man.

I have 2 xbox consoles. I know plenty of other households and families that have 2 of the same console. So you are telling me you would not be able to play the game on both consoles and you'd rather have to buy two copies?!?

thats just bull.
xbox.com bro, xbox.com, plus wouldnt they just link the purchased game with your account and not the console itself? "but bace what if i get a new account/it get hacked wutdothen?" call support and get things straightened out

OT: you guys need to just stop, seriously, its not the end of the world

  • 01.03.2013 6:34 PM PDT


Posted by: Incandescence

Posted by: brandorobot
If this happens I might just have to go exclusively to PC.

Where the system allows no used games at all? Sound logic

Oh no, I can't buy used game :( I guess I'll just have to buy 6 games for 5 dollars in a Steam sale :(

  • 01.03.2013 6:37 PM PDT

If the profile ID is paired with the disc ID, that pairing would need to be stored somewhere. Obviously the best place to do that is on the disk, but if there's no network connection that pairing record can't be stored anywhere where it can be accessed by another console (which is also a problem since the latter would need a network connection too). So the only way of making this work is to change the media (Bluray, DVD, or whatever else they're using) from readable to writeable to store the pairing record on the disc itself. This way the console will be able to read the record from the disc after it has been written-to by another/the same console.

That's probably going to lead to a jump in manufacturing (and subsequently purchase) costs, since writeable discs are a little bit more expensive than readable-only (IIRC) and the console disc drive will need to support write capabilities as well.

  • 01.03.2013 6:40 PM PDT
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If Microsoft do this then I'll be buying less and less games. I only really buy pre-owned games.

  • 01.03.2013 6:42 PM PDT
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Posted by: dazarobbo
If the profile ID is paired with the disc ID, that pairing would need to be stored somewhere. Obviously the best place to do that is on the disk, but if there's no network connection that pairing record can't be stored anywhere where it can be accessed by another console (which is also a problem since the latter would need a network connection too). So the only way of making this work is to change the media (Bluray, DVD, or whatever else they're using) from readable to writeable to store the pairing record on the disc itself. This way the console will be able to read the record from the disc after it has been written-to by another/the same console.

That's probably going to lead to a jump in manufacturing (and subsequently purchase) costs, since writeable discs are a little bit more expensive than readable-only (IIRC) and the console disc drive will need to support write capabilities as well.

IIRC, they are planning to use RFID chips in the disc.

  • 01.03.2013 6:42 PM PDT

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I don't see this as too big a problem, but it has issues.

Reason For: Money will go directly to people who made it.

Reason Against: Sales like the Steam sales will probably never happen. Also, GameStop works a supply-and-demand system based on rarity. I bought Bioshock 2 for $9, and titles like Gears 2 and COD4 were there for like $5. I highly doubt you'll ever see full retail older games go less than $20. And that's a shame because that's alot of what I buy.

Edit: Also, GameStop had BF Bad Company 1 for $3. You think you'll ever see $3 in Games on Demand?

[Edited on 01.04.2013 10:29 AM PST]

  • 01.04.2013 10:26 AM PDT