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Subject: Would you buy items from China, or your home country?

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The US simply can't compete with countries like China. We have labor laws that protect workers. Even if companies were hardly taxed at all, we're still paying exponentially more for production than places like China. We can't pay employees pennies an hour and work them 70 hours a week.

  • 01.03.2013 1:20 PM PDT

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What created the big bang then? A coalition of genetically modified TR-909s with extra distortion?

I buy whatever costs less, has decent build quality, and does what I want it to do.

So, China.

  • 01.03.2013 1:24 PM PDT
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Posted by: MadMax888
The US simply can't compete with countries like China. We have labor laws that protect workers. Even if companies were hardly taxed at all, we're still paying exponentially more for production than places like China. We can't pay employees pennies an hour and work them 70 hours a week.

Hey now, their pay is up to around $2.25/hour now in tech factories like FoxConn and others.

Still poor pay to you and me (though things are comparatively cheaper over there like food and such), but wages have risen.

  • 01.03.2013 1:26 PM PDT

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Not with a bang but a whimper.

$150 is testing my loyalties a bit, especially if the TV is exactly the same (stuff Made in America tends to be a little higher quality), but I think I still might if I could.

  • 01.03.2013 1:28 PM PDT

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Posted by: xImNotProx
When I talk about outsourcing it's about outsourcing to low-wage countries with low standards of living. Companies that export to countries that are similar in terms of standards of living shouldn't be punished. We also shouldn't punish companies that import from countries with similar standards of living. We are actually able to be competitive with those countries.

The problem would only be with companies that export stuff to low wage countries. It wouldn't really be a big problem because if Americans allegedly can't afford US made goods, then people living in low-wage countries wouldn't be able to afford them either.

Job training and retraining programs have been cut in recent years, so they aren't becoming as viable as they used to.

China is America's #2 trading partner. Trade is never a one sided deal. Many have a hard time believing a country like China actually buys from Americans. Doing what you're talking about destroys established advantages of trade. There are things the Chinese are better at that Americans aren't and vice versa that benefits the people of both nations.

You're saying having workers disposed by globalization is bad, and you're right to, but openly endorse disposing workers in favour of a more isolated economic policy. I've said you're right to raise concerns over many of these problems but you're wrong, very wrong, to endorse such a dangerous stance. Competition is good. Trade is good.

Get it though your head that the world is not reverting to what it was fifty years ago. Rapidly evolving technology is killing off far more jobs than outsourcing. Outsourcing isn't even in the double digits for causes of job loss.

  • 01.03.2013 1:33 PM PDT

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Posted by: MadMax888
The US simply can't compete with countries like China. We have labor laws that protect workers. Even if companies were hardly taxed at all, we're still paying exponentially more for production than places like China. We can't pay employees pennies an hour and work them 70 hours a week.

Hey now, their pay is up to around $2.25/hour now in tech factories like FoxConn and others.

Still poor pay to you and me (though things are comparatively cheaper over there like food and such), but wages have risen.
Wow. That's a substantial increase.

  • 01.03.2013 1:35 PM PDT

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I see what you did there OP. . .

It depends on the quality. Most likely the American on but then again, the T.V.s probably aren't even assembled in the United States. . .


You know what company would be good to ask? Nike. They know alot about American made products.

  • 01.03.2013 1:38 PM PDT

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It depends, if x item + shipping = lower than the x item price. Then yeeeeee.

Already assuming that the items are the same quality/brand.

  • 01.03.2013 1:39 PM PDT
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Fuel the economy, man!

  • 01.03.2013 1:40 PM PDT

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If Fed Ex and UPS merged into one company, would it be called Fed Up?

I don't want to start another account for a digital number that has no true value in ten years.

Don't really care, so many things are made in China because they have people willing to work for such lower wages. Something very few Americans are willing to do, and until that mentality changes, companies will always build factories in China.

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Posted by: DarkVader9494
If Americans were paid the same as Chinese workers, people would literally be starving because they wouldn't be able to buy food. There's a reason why high wage countries are more successful than low wage countries.

  • 01.03.2013 1:57 PM PDT

The cake is a pie

China. Why does it matter where it comes from? Don't the Chinese people deserve to eat?

  • 01.03.2013 1:59 PM PDT

If I want it to last I buy American.

  • 01.03.2013 2:10 PM PDT
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I would rather pay for the one with higher quality, even if it does cost more

  • 01.03.2013 6:43 PM PDT

I hate the buy American bull -blam!-. Why should I pay more to support my country, when prices for almost everything these days gets risen. I want to buy American, but it costs way more, when there is no incentive to do so.

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Anybody that is saying "America even if it costs more" is actually contradicting the idea of a free capitalistic market.

Therefore, by supporting the US economy in practice you are not supporting it in theory.

That said, I wish I could buy local, but unfortunately, I live in a city, so other than restaurants, there are not many opportunities for me to buy from independent merchants. Not that I am a staunch capitalist anyway.

  • 01.03.2013 7:00 PM PDT

There are a few things I'd pay more for if they're made in America. Things like real nice coats, shoes, etc. are, in my experience, higher quality when they're home-made.

But things like televisions? Jeez, of course I'd get the cheaper, Chinese brand. Money is a good thing.

  • 01.03.2013 7:02 PM PDT

China.

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