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Posted by: ROBERTO jh
And certain affinity's been doing Bungie's map packs since Halo 2

Certain Affinity did two map packs, the last one of Halo 2 and the Defiant Map Pack in Reach.

and the H4 engine is the same engine Bungie's been using for almost the entire franchise, so this isn't new.
No, it isn't.

343i is not just a game design company,
'Not even' would be more accurate than 'not just'.

they are also the holders of an entire media franchise. Much of their staff is dedicated to the oversight of that franchise, and its related products.
And yet, the best use of their time is slapping together dumbass cutscenes of grunts eating lunch, and putting together that worthless FuD franchise.

What 343i did do was the entire campaign, writing and, as far as I know, most of the multiplayer design and testing.
Don't know where you pulled that CA did multiplayer. All CA did was Forge and theater, and built the map pack, while 343i designed/oversaw it.

'Oversaw' is doing nothing, just FYI.

Ultimately every decision came back to 343i. Can this community stop trying to crucify 343i for 5 seconds for once?
Can you stop 343's nutsack from pounding against your chin for 5 seconds for once?

[Edited on 01.04.2013 10:32 AM PST]

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Ok, so you're a car company and you want to build the best car on the market. Are you going to build all the pieces yourself, or are you going to import the parts from other companies that make those parts better than you do, thus creating a better finished product?

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Posted by: grey101
Airplanes, cars, tanks, and cell phones are not creative projects. Video games are. Pretty -blam!- big difference there, champ. Creative projects can and often do suffer from too many cooks in the kitchen.

I'll start with saying bungie sure hasn't been making it's maps in house. Certain affinity has been used with halo since halo 2.
They made one Halo 2 map pack (the remakes), and the defiant map pack for Reach. That's it.

Majority of this thread is filled with ignorance who i only assume are children since the average adult is aware of something like this.
Where the hell does your ass-kissing, dim-witted self get the nerve to call other people 'children'?

  • 01.04.2013 10:30 AM PDT

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Chapter

Narwhallace Smithington: Gone, but not forgotten. Never approve of anything lil guy. <3
Furious George: The new -blam!-

Opinions are fun

343i Halo ventures;

Legends - Cool but some of the anime stuff isn't my cup of tea.
CEA - Fun recreation of a game that I thoroughly enjoyed. Multiplayer netcode isn't great but I enjoyed the game anyway.
Forward Unto Dawn - Dig the live action stuff and how it ties in with Halo 4.
Halo 4 - Great addition to the series. I enjoyed the story and a fresh look at the multiplayer.


But let's -blam!- all over something and try to push it as fact, instead.

/Flood

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Posted by: MegaMuffin16
Ok, so you're a car company and you want to build the best car on the market. Are you going to build all the pieces yourself, or are you going to import the parts from other companies that make those parts better than you do, thus creating a better finished product?

The fact that people think this car argument is actually applicable is great. I'd expect nothing less from 343 fanboys.

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Posted by: ROBERTO jh
And certain affinity's been doing Bungie's map packs since Halo 2

Certain Affinity did one map pack, the last one of Halo 2. You know, the one where they sodomized Derelict and Hang Em High.

and the H4 engine is the same engine Bungie's been using for almost the entire franchise, so this isn't new.
No, it isn't.

343i is not just a game design company,
'Not even' would be more accurate than 'not just'.

they are also the holders of an entire media franchise. Much of their staff is dedicated to the oversight of that franchise, and its related products.
And yet, the best use of their time is slapping together dumbass cutscenes of grunts eating lunch, and putting together that worthless FuD franchise.

What 343i did do was the entire campaign, writing and, as far as I know, most of the multiplayer design and testing.
Don't know where you pulled that CA did multiplayer. All CA did was Forge and theater, and built the map pack, while 343i designed/oversaw it.
'Oversaw' is doing nothing, just FYI.

[quote]Ultimately every decision came back to 343i. Can this community stop trying to crucify 343i for 5 seconds for once?

Can you stop 343's nutsack from pounding against your chin for 5 seconds for once?



1. Are you implying that everything else bungie- a company that never even had time to finish a game- did from then was them alone?

2.Implying that the multiplayer modes of bungie were perfect and praised by this community all the time.

3. Yet, 343I finished their game while halo 2 had at least 5 hours of content missing. Implying that FuD was worse than legends.

4.You aren't any better for trying to hate them so profusely.

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They have engine issues, the Xbox 360 is just not powerful enough to handle new things now.

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Posted by: MrR46
Airplanes, cars, tanks, and cell phones are not creative projects. Video games are.

Really?

Tell me more about how CoD is a creative product.

Posted by: MrR46
343 fanboys.

Now how do you honestly expect me to take anything you, and all the other 343/H4 haters, say at value when you post -blam!- like this?

[Edited on 01.04.2013 10:37 AM PST]

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Posted by: grey101
Airplanes, cars, tanks, and cell phones are not creative projects. Video games are. Pretty -blam!- big difference there, champ. Creative projects can and often do suffer from too many cooks in the kitchen.

I'll start with saying bungie sure hasn't been making it's maps in house. Certain affinity has been used with halo since halo 2.
They made one Halo 2 map pack (the remakes), and the defiant map pack for Reach. That's it.

Majority of this thread is filled with ignorance who i only assume are children since the average adult is aware of something like this.
Where the hell does your ass-kissing, dim-witted self get the nerve to call other people 'children'?



1. You are trying to rationalize. The fact is everything comes from somewhere else. The paper a company prints on wasn't made there, the pencils a school store sells weren't made there. For some reason you guys are acting like 343I is the only thing in the world that gets things from others.


2. You clearly haven't looked up the scandal with bungie outsourcing all of the halo story to other companies. which is what 343I meant by it all being done in house.

3. Because you clearly don't understand how work gets done in gaming industry let alone the world. You can't berate somebody for "kissing ass" when you are so intent on kicking it.

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Posted by: ROBERTO jh
And certain affinity's been doing Bungie's map packs since Halo 2

Certain Affinity did one map pack, the last one of Halo 2. You know, the one where they sodomized Derelict and Hang Em High.

I stand corrected then. But regardless of the number of times CA did something Halo related, it still stands as a fact that no one does it alone in the industry these days. Look at many of the big name games coming out these days and watch the opening credits.

and the H4 engine is the same engine Bungie's been using for almost the entire franchise, so this isn't new.
No, it isn't.

Yes it is. It's modified Reach engine, which was a modified H3 engine, which was a modfied Halo 2 engine. The only truly different engine in the entire franchise is Halo 1's.

343i is not just a game design company,
'Not even' would be more accurate than 'not just'.

they are also the holders of an entire media franchise. Much of their staff is dedicated to the oversight of that franchise, and its related products.
And yet, the best use of their time is slapping together dumbass cutscenes of grunts eating lunch, and putting together that worthless FuD franchise.

What 343i did do was the entire campaign, writing and, as far as I know, most of the multiplayer design and testing.
Don't know where you pulled that CA did multiplayer. All CA did was Forge and theater, and built the map pack, while 343i designed/oversaw it.
'Oversaw' is doing nothing, just FYI.

[quote]Ultimately every decision came back to 343i. Can this community stop trying to crucify 343i for 5 seconds for once?

Can you stop 343's nutsack from pounding against your chin for 5 seconds for once?


I imagine you want to be seen as an immature twelve year old? Because the only way I'd imagine a civil individual would go off and insult someone like that in a conversation is if I offended them in some way. Did I offend you somehow? I'm sorry, I forgot that you're not allowed to like Halo 4 on this site, right? Yeah. Different opinions are a bad thing on the internet.

If you want to be taken seriously, stop sounding like such and immature fanboy and take stock of what you're about to say for once in your life. I know it must be hard for you, being a twelve year old with some very obvious self esteem issues and all that, but at least pretend you're an adult when you're around civilized company. It'll give people less headaches.

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Posted by: grey101
1. Are you implying that everything else bungie- a company that never even had time to finish a game- did from then was them alone?

Where did I imply this?

2.Implying that the multiplayer modes of bungie were perfect and praised by this community all the time.
Where did I imply this?

3. Yet, 343I finished their game while halo 2 had at least 5 hours of content missing. Implying that FuD was worse than legends.
Where did I imply this?

4.You aren't any better for trying to hate them so profusely.
I don't have to try, it's a pretty natural reaction.

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Really?

Tell me more about how CoD is a creative product.

Tell me how it isn't.

Now how do you honestly expect me to take anything you, and all the other 343/H4 haters, say at value when you post -blam!- like this?
It really doesn't matter to me, pal. If it's any consolation, it's been ages since I've taken anything you've posted seriously.

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Posted by: MrR46
Posted by: grey101
1. Are you implying that everything else bungie- a company that never even had time to finish a game- did from then was them alone?

Where did I imply this?

2.Implying that the multiplayer modes of bungie were perfect and praised by this community all the time.
Where did I imply this?

3. Yet, 343I finished their game while halo 2 had at least 5 hours of content missing. Implying that FuD was worse than legends.
Where did I imply this?

4.You aren't any better for trying to hate them so profusely.
I don't have to try, it's a pretty natural reaction.




Certain Affinity did one map pack, the last one of Halo 2.




'Oversaw' is doing nothing, just FYI.



I don't see how hating is a natural reaction to other people not joining a bandwagon.

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Posted by: MrR46
Tell me how it isn't.

It's not a creative project in the sense that a work of art is.

It's a piece of entertainment in the sense that a movie is.

It really doesn't matter to me, pal.
So what purpose does all your raging against H4 and 343 serve?

Stress relief?

I think that's symptoms of a bigger problem and you should learn to just accept that 343 made a game you don't like but isn't objectively terrible and just get over it.

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Posted by: MrR46
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Really?

Tell me more about how CoD is a creative product.

Tell me how it isn't.

Now how do you honestly expect me to take anything you, and all the other 343/H4 haters, say at value when you post -blam!- like this?
It really doesn't matter to me, pal. If it's any consolation, it's been ages since I've taken anything you've posted seriously.


Start with telling us how little of CoD was done out of house.


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Posted by: ROBERTO jh
Yes it is. It's modified Reach engine, which was a modified H3 engine, which was a modfied Halo 2 engine. The only truly different engine in the entire franchise is Halo 1's.

So it really isn't the same engine, then.

I imagine you want to be seen as an immature twelve year old? Because the only way I'd imagine a civil individual would go off and insult someone like that in a conversation is if I offended them in some way.
Telling you that you're full of -blam!- isn't 'going off', it's alerting you to the fact that you are indeed full of -blam!-.

Did I offend you somehow?
No more than you usually do when you go on your mushy, haughty, 343-is-god soliloquies and simultaneously pretend like you have any credibility whatsoever.

I'm sorry, I forgot that you're not allowed to like Halo 4 on this site, right? Yeah. Different opinions are a bad thing on the internet.
Sure, whatever.

If you want to be taken seriously, stop sounding like such and immature fanboy
Pot kettle black something.

and take stock of what you're about to say for once in your life.
lol

I know it must be hard for you, being a twelve year old with some very obvious self esteem issues and all that, but at least pretend you're an adult when you're around civilized company. It'll give people less headaches.
Wow, speaking of those holier-than-thou soliloquies, there's one now.

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Posted by: MegaMuffin16
Ok, so you're a car company and you want to build the best car on the market. Are you going to build all the pieces yourself, or are you going to import the parts from other companies that make those parts better than you do, thus creating a better finished product?

The fact that people think this car argument is actually applicable is great. I'd expect nothing less from 343 fanboys.
This is how much I care about video game companies and their practices:







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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

um, it is the same engine if it is modified no matter how heavy that modification is.


That response isn't helping counter his point.

neither did that one. or the next two

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Really?

Tell me more about how CoD is a creative product.

Tell me how it isn't.

Now how do you honestly expect me to take anything you, and all the other 343/H4 haters, say at value when you post -blam!- like this?
It really doesn't matter to me, pal. If it's any consolation, it's been ages since I've taken anything you've posted seriously.


Start with telling us how little of CoD was done out of house.

You don't think I'm aware of that?

CoD is mish-mash of dumb ideas that pander to the lowest common denominator. The fact that each new game is tossed around between multiple studios contributes to the lack of focus and sloppy feel of each game.

Stop posting strawmen.

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Ok, so you're a car company and you want to build the best car on the market. Are you going to build all the pieces yourself, or are you going to import the parts from other companies that make those parts better than you do, thus creating a better finished product?

The fact that people think this car argument is actually applicable is great. I'd expect nothing less from 343 fanboys.
This is how much I care about video game companies and their practices:

And yet you felt the need to bang out a paragraph of irrelevant crap in response to my post about video game companies and their practices.

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Posted by: grey101
um, it is the same engine if it is modified no matter how heavy that modification is.

Is an axe that gets its handle replaced three times and its head replaced four times still the same axe as it always was?

That response isn't helping counter his point.

neither did that one. or the next two

Good thing you're not the authority.

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Don't worry, you're still your mom's favorite Bnet member.

Oh, you thought I was responding to you? Don't flatter yourself, buddy.

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Posted by: True Underdog
Opinions are fun

343i Halo ventures;

Legends - Cool but some of the anime stuff isn't my cup of tea.
CEA - Fun recreation of a game that I thoroughly enjoyed. Multiplayer netcode isn't great but I enjoyed the game anyway.
Forward Unto Dawn - Dig the live action stuff and how it ties in with Halo 4.
Halo 4 - Great addition to the series. I enjoyed the story and a fresh look at the multiplayer.


But let's -blam!- all over something and try to push it as fact, instead.

/Flood

And this is why TU is by far the best Forum Ninja.

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I gaze upon the stars and see the majesty that is the universe.


EGO mos bulla astrum.

Well besides the fact that the guy who wrote that is quite butthurt and Halo 4 is a good game. 343i's job isn't to create Halo games. It's to manage the Halo Universe. Free yourself from ignorance.

Also I you Halo 3 fanboys should be happy here. The engine is the same engine that has been used since Halo 3 but heavily modified. 343i said this many times. Haha the fact that people are blowing up about it now just goes to show you how people that hate Halo 4 and Halo Reach can be pretty ignorant bastards.

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guize i made half a sammwich can i be 343 now

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