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Good lord.

I guess I've been hating on the wrong companies. it's not their fault, and I hate 343 even more now.

  • 01.03.2013 11:12 PM PDT

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  • 01.03.2013 11:15 PM PDT

Dang. I never knew that. I knew Certain Affinity was involved with forge, but I didn't know so many other companies worked on the game. Blast it. 343 should have done the work themselves, because they are getting all of the flack right now.

  • 01.03.2013 11:15 PM PDT

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Posted by: DTA MoonDawg
Very interesting points. To be fair though, this was 343's first AAA title. They probably needed all the help they could get.

  • 01.03.2013 11:16 PM PDT

/s

Oh alright.

  • 01.03.2013 11:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: Qbix89
Talking about Sweden is an ultrabannable offense.

Posted by: Achronos
Too bad being completely and utterly wrong isn't a bannable offense.

Posted by: flamedude
343i Halo ventures;

Legends - Awful
CEA - Awful
Forward Unto Dawn - Awful
Halo 4 - Almost good but let down by a cataclysmic set of bugs and problems and errors

I think its outrageous that Halo 4 isn't a perfect game, that it isn't comparable to H3 or even Reach and that with all the info and budget at their disposal that 343i somehow missed the mark.

Shooting fish in a barrel is meant to be easy....
1. Wow hate anime much? They were a collection of different stories. Some were good some were bad, just like Halo Evolutions. Or do you hate that too? Besides, you don't have to treat it as canon, and I doubt anyone does.
2. It's a remake. How is that worse than the original game when all they did was give it a graphical upgrade?
3. It's a good "example of what could be" if they developed it off an existing canon story rather than making a new canon for the story.
4. Yeah

  • 01.03.2013 11:22 PM PDT

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  • 01.03.2013 11:23 PM PDT

Well, that's extremely depressing.

  • 01.03.2013 11:25 PM PDT

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Posted by: flamedude
CEA - Awful
explain, and don't say multiplayer because we all knew that was never going to happen.

  • 01.03.2013 11:32 PM PDT

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  • 01.03.2013 11:33 PM PDT

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Posted by: Garshne
Posted by: flamedude
343i Halo ventures;

Legends - Awful
CEA - Awful
Forward Unto Dawn - Awful
Halo 4 - Almost good but let down by a cataclysmic set of bugs and problems and errors

I think its outrageous that Halo 4 isn't a perfect game, that it isn't comparable to H3 or even Reach and that with all the info and budget at their disposal that 343i somehow missed the mark.

Shooting fish in a barrel is meant to be easy....
1. Wow hate anime much? They were a collection of different stories. Some were good some were bad, just like Halo Evolutions. Or do you hate that too? Besides, you don't have to treat it as canon, and I doubt anyone does.
2. It's a remake. How is that worse than the original game when all they did was give it a graphical upgrade?
3. It's a good "example of what could be" if they developed it off an existing canon story rather than making a new canon for the story.
4. Yeah


1. The thing is I actually do like anime, but I also like good storytelling too. Origins was amazing and if all of Legends was like that it would have been a triumph, but The Package and all those other ones were just nasty and cheap and poor.
2. It wasn't a graphical upgrade. For starters they redesigned the Chief, why did they redesign the Chief?? Secondly they saturated everything in colour so TaR now no longer requires the night scope on the Sniper and geometry does not match with the original so sometimes you shoot and hit thin air. It was a cash-grab, a way of making 343i some easy money. They even copied half the 3D models directly from Reach.
3. It hints at what could be done, but we know what could be done from Landfall. This just came over as corny cheesy Stargate style junk to me.
4. Oh Halo 4........... It's so frustrating that there was so much potential and I can almost see it in the game. The glimpses of greatness are just agonizing.

  • 01.03.2013 11:35 PM PDT

LOL

  • 01.03.2013 11:35 PM PDT

Per Audacia Ad Astra

What next?

"343i Didn't Make Halo 4 for Halo 4"?

  • 01.03.2013 11:36 PM PDT

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Posted by: flamedude
This just came over as corny cheesy Stargate style junk to me.
>he doesn't like stargate

Well there's your problem!

  • 01.03.2013 11:41 PM PDT


Posted by: Gamma617g
Good lord.

I guess I've been hating on the wrong companies. it's not their fault, and I hate 343 even more now.


I knew 343 was outsourcing a lot of development to other companies but i didn't know it was this bad. What a lazy developer 343 is, they did hardly and of the work.

  • 01.03.2013 11:42 PM PDT
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Posted by: Qbix89
Talking about Sweden is an ultrabannable offense.

Posted by: Achronos
Too bad being completely and utterly wrong isn't a bannable offense.

Posted by: flamedude
Posted by: Garshne
Posted by: flamedude
343i Halo ventures;

Legends - Awful
CEA - Awful
Forward Unto Dawn - Awful
Halo 4 - Almost good but let down by a cataclysmic set of bugs and problems and errors

I think its outrageous that Halo 4 isn't a perfect game, that it isn't comparable to H3 or even Reach and that with all the info and budget at their disposal that 343i somehow missed the mark.

Shooting fish in a barrel is meant to be easy....
1. Wow hate anime much? They were a collection of different stories. Some were good some were bad, just like Halo Evolutions. Or do you hate that too? Besides, you don't have to treat it as canon, and I doubt anyone does.
2. It's a remake. How is that worse than the original game when all they did was give it a graphical upgrade?
3. It's a good "example of what could be" if they developed it off an existing canon story rather than making a new canon for the story.
4. Yeah


1. The thing is I actually do like anime, but I also like good storytelling too. Origins was amazing and if all of Legends was like that it would have been a triumph, but The Package and all those other ones were just nasty and cheap and poor.
2. It wasn't a graphical upgrade. For starters they redesigned the Chief, why did they redesign the Chief?? Secondly they saturated everything in colour so TaR now no longer requires the night scope on the Sniper and geometry does not match with the original so sometimes you shoot and hit thin air. It was a cash-grab, a way of making 343i some easy money. They even copied half the 3D models directly from Reach.
3. It hints at what could be done, but we know what could be done from Landfall. This just came over as corny cheesy Stargate style junk to me.
4. Oh Halo 4........... It's so frustrating that there was so much potential and I can almost see it in the game. The glimpses of greatness are just agonizing.
I can agree with that, now that you've elaborated.

I liked some of the stories from Legends. The Package and Odd One Out were really the ones I hated, and I didn't particularly like Origins because I pretty much know all the Halo lore already.

The Prototype was good as long as I didn't consider it strictly canon, and The Babysitter was okay but not great. I didn't really get into The Duel, but Homecoming was my favourite. I'd say Homecoming and The Prototype were my favourites out of the whole lot. The characters were the main point in selling it to me.

  • 01.03.2013 11:42 PM PDT

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Posted by: flamedude
This just came over as corny cheesy Stargate style junk to me.
>he doesn't like stargate

Well there's your problem!


Oh I used to.... when I was young and not so damn jaded. But Stargate went from fun and original to bloated and boring and predictable. When they couldn't think of original storylines anymore and so just came up with new even bigger enemies again and again and the good guys inexplicably got bigger and better spaceships.

Sound familiar?

Uuuuuh...... the Ori. That was when I lost interest in Stargate, when I realised they had ran out of ideas and that it had been going on for a long time.

  • 01.03.2013 11:44 PM PDT
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  • 01.03.2013 11:45 PM PDT

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Posted by: Garshne
I liked some of the stories from Legends. The Package and Odd One Out were really the ones I hated, and I didn't particularly like Origins because I pretty much know all the Halo lore already.

The Prototype was good as long as I didn't consider it strictly canon, and The Babysitter was okay but not great. I didn't really get into The Duel, but Homecoming was my favourite. I'd say Homecoming and The Prototype were my favourites out of the whole lot. The characters were the main point in selling it to me.


I guess the Prototype was ok, I didn't hate that one for sure.

Origins reminded me of the Renaissance pieces from the Animatric, really great detailed animation with a really tight artistic direction and great pace in storytelling. I like you know pretty much all Halo lore but seeing it visually, and seeing different things like the Ark and the original rings and the UNSC-Covenant Alliance vs the Flood, was just an amazing beautiful experience.

I will say one excellent thing about CEA; The terminals. I disliked the new remake intensely, the actual remade game part, but the Terminals were really well done. Origins level of awesomeness.

  • 01.03.2013 11:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: chronicaddict420
I couldn't care less how the game was made, its the end result that matters.

well the game is awful so it sounds like you should care

  • 01.03.2013 11:50 PM PDT

Halo died with Reach

Lest we forget the great times we had up till ODST

  • 01.03.2013 11:53 PM PDT
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I'm confused. Axis Animation makes mention of doing the episodes for Spartan Ops, but not the CGI campaign stuff. Unless I'm missing something, why do you think they did all of the CGI?

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Seems that Halo 4 is a prime example of too many hands in the pot. So many different companies work on it there is no centralized enviro ment or stable flow of ideas or creation. It just gets messy.

  • 01.04.2013 12:00 AM PDT

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Posted by: Duardo
I'm confused. Axis Animation makes mention of doing the episodes for Spartan Ops, but not the CGI campaign stuff. Unless I'm missing something, why do you think they did all of the CGI?
Derp. Mistake on my part. Will go and fix that. I know they only did Spartan Ops, I forgot the Campaign had CGI as well (I think it was only the intro, and the ending?)

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Posted by: flamedude
343i Halo ventures;

Legends - Awful
CEA - Awful
Forward Unto Dawn - Awful
Halo 4 - Almost good but let down by a cataclysmic set of bugs and problems and errors

I think its outrageous that Halo 4 isn't a perfect game, that it isn't comparable to H3 or even Reach and that with all the info and budget at their disposal that 343i somehow missed the mark.

Shooting fish in a barrel is meant to be easy....


What he said.

  • 01.04.2013 12:31 AM PDT