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Subject: Agenda 21: UN's Globalization Plan

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Good day, Flood. I don't start threads very often, but today is a special occasion. One I feel I should share with all of you. Take what you will out of this, but more people should be, at the very least, aware.

Flood, meet Agenda 21. A multi-step process laid out by the United Nations in Rio De Janeiro, in 1992. The basic description of Agenda 21 is to bring "sustainable development" to the global community. What does that mean, you ask? Well, for starters, what the plan is trying to accomplish is to greatly reduce our negative impact on the Earth and our environments.

The actions to be taken to achieve this goal, would threaten our sovereignty, our freedoms, and our very way of life. How, you might ask, with a puzzled look on your face? The steps to be taken to achieve these goals, can be summarized in the following -
- Repurpose 50% of the land in the United States alone, to be National Environment Reserves, like National Parks, if you will. Now, to do that, the government would literally have to move millions upon millions of people from their homes to other population centers, to make way for this. In fact, it is outlined within the plan for there to be at least 30 or so citizens to an acre. They want to create "walking cities", intensely dense urban centers, where people will, simply put, walk to where they need to go.
- Eradicate the usage of automobiles within these "walking cities". To combat automobile pollution.
- Reduce population. To prevent crowding and other problems that stem from having such a sizable population to begin with.
- Ban weapons (such as guns).
- Rely on bureaucracies for decision-making, not democracies.
- To focus on the collective, and NOT the individual. What this means, is that your rights and personal freedoms will be severely restricted to comply with the good of the collective (the entirety of the global population overall).
- For wealthy countries to provide for poor countries so they may be able to accomplish the necessary goals of Agenda 21. This means that the US and other wealthy countries will have to support third world countries financially and with key resources to help establish what they deem needs to be done.

What they say they want to do, is to solve the problems of the present, without compromising the future generations.

Now, believe me, there is a whole lot more information out there, and I encourage fact-checking and searching for more information. I know I definitely cannot type all that I'd like to type about this subject, as I'm probably missing something. But I am hoping however, that this has inspired some to take interest in this subject and what's going on.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, nor have I ever been. However, what I find in this "plan" scares me, and enrages me. Some of you, will notice I only addressed America's role in Agenda 21. This is true. I live in America, so I researched as such. For those of you living elsewhere, I highly recommend taking a look at where your country stands in this arrangement.

Another thing you will notice, especially the scholarly among you, is that I didn't provide any direct sources. Correct, and with reason. I believe you all should do some digging and some researching yourselves, as I did, to give you a better understanding.

I thank you all for taking the time for reading this, and please have yourselves a good day or night, depending on your time zone.

One last thing. I'm sure some of you will say that is discussing politics, and should be locked. I understand this, and I thought about this. However, I find the situation to be too dire, and too important. In fact, I would regard this as more of a humanities and human rights and freedoms type thread more than anything. But, because I know how the Flood likes to be, I would like to ask you all to please refrain from derailing this thread into one of those mindless flamewars you all seem to be ever so capable of starting.

EDIT: Allow me to provide my own personal opinion regarding all of this, since so many of you have misconceptions. Personally, I don't believe it will happen. It will die in the UN eventually or just never get implemented enough to make a difference. But the mere fact that it's out there, and that it's a real possibility, is a reason to be aware.
NEWER EDIT: Removing all bias from OP. Now maybe we can have some decent discussions without all the name-calling. Lawd. Now research, and draw your own opinions.

[Edited on 01.06.2013 4:09 PM PST]

  • 01.05.2013 7:22 PM PDT
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Got any proof for this pudding?

  • 01.05.2013 7:24 PM PDT
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I don't need no stinking signature!

So you have what you think is important, world-changing information...

And you bring it to the flood?

  • 01.05.2013 7:25 PM PDT
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The only thing we need to worry about is principle, natural rights and freedoms. We should have a problem with ANYONE that infringes on them, even if it is Barrack Obama...

  • 01.05.2013 7:25 PM PDT

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Research to your heart's content
OR...
This!

  • 01.05.2013 7:27 PM PDT

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Posted by: Swagoth Ur
So you have what you think is important, world-changing information...

And you bring it to the flood?

Why not? It has a very large member base, and surprisingly enough, I actually like you people.

  • 01.05.2013 7:28 PM PDT
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This is a signature. If you're reading it, you must be dedicated. My other account, created in 2011, is nitwitcoffee10.
My gamertag is Shoop Do Whoop.

Well, because it is non-binding, it isn't a problem now. However, when the liberalism in the world finally forces our country into communism, I suppose we'll be stuck with it.

  • 01.05.2013 7:28 PM PDT

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Posted by: Shoop Do Whoop
Well, because it is non-binding, it isn't a problem now. However, when the liberalism in the world finally forces our country into communism, I suppose we'll be stuck with it.

True. But I will say that states such as Texas and California have apparently already agreed to Agenda 21 ideals and plans.

  • 01.05.2013 7:30 PM PDT

Posted by: Baph117
This is an incredible step forward to being able to cure Downss sybndonre mn humans bineg.s

"Agenda 21 is a non-binding, voluntarily implemented action plan of the United Nations with regard to sustainable development."

You're not very bright.

  • 01.05.2013 7:30 PM PDT

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Posted by: Seggi31
"Agenda 21 is a non-binding, voluntarily implemented action plan of the United Nations with regard to sustainable development."

You're not very bright.
lawl by voluntary it means one person (Bush No. 1) signs on and all America is stuck with it. Nice job getting info from just one source.

  • 01.05.2013 7:33 PM PDT

Posted by: Baph117
This is an incredible step forward to being able to cure Downss sybndonre mn humans bineg.s

Posted by: RampantAssass1n
lawl by voluntary it means one person (Bush No. 1) signs on and all America is stuck with it. Nice job getting info from just one source.


except it was never ratified. gg

  • 01.05.2013 7:35 PM PDT

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Posted by: Seggi31
Posted by: RampantAssass1n
lawl by voluntary it means one person (Bush No. 1) signs on and all America is stuck with it. Nice job getting info from just one source.


except it was never ratified. gg
Didn't have to be, it's not a treaty, senate and congress never got to vote and it wasn't ratified by the executive branch. Bush No. 1 goes to a conference says "Seems legit" signs a paper and boom, 'Murica is part of agenda 21.

  • 01.05.2013 7:39 PM PDT

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Posted by: Seggi31
"Agenda 21 is a non-binding, voluntarily implemented action plan of the United Nations with regard to sustainable development."

You're not very bright.

Cute how, instead of trying to form a coherent argument, you insult me. Try harder next time.

  • 01.05.2013 7:40 PM PDT

Posted by: Baph117
This is an incredible step forward to being able to cure Downss sybndonre mn humans bineg.s

Posted by: RampantAssass1n
Didn't have to be, it's not a treaty, senate and congress never got to vote and it wasn't ratified by the executive branch. Bush No. 1 goes to a conference says "Seems legit" signs a paper and boom, 'Murica is part of agenda 21.


Do you understand what ratification is?

  • 01.05.2013 7:41 PM PDT
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F0ck the police

They can pry my freedom off my cold dead hands.

  • 01.05.2013 7:43 PM PDT

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Posted by: Seggi31
Posted by: RampantAssass1n
Didn't have to be, it's not a treaty, senate and congress never got to vote and it wasn't ratified by the executive branch. Bush No. 1 goes to a conference says "Seems legit" signs a paper and boom, 'Murica is part of agenda 21.


Do you understand what ratification is?
Yes, ratification is where a treaty is sent to the legislative branch to approve it, however, as I already said this isn't a treaty.

  • 01.05.2013 7:44 PM PDT

Posted by: Baph117
This is an incredible step forward to being able to cure Downss sybndonre mn humans bineg.s

Posted by: RampantAssass1n
Yes, ratification is where a treaty is sent to the legislative branch to approve it, however, as I already said this isn't a treaty.


Yeah, and you can't enforce anything like this unless it's legislated, like a treaty, or like any other form of legislation, unless it comes under executive power. Nobody's 'stuck' with it.

  • 01.05.2013 7:51 PM PDT
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Posted by: jetmann113
They can pry my freedom off my cold dead hands.


They're more than willing to arrange that for you. Try using marijuana in one of the 48 states where it's still illegal and you could easily be murdered in a raid.

  • 01.05.2013 7:56 PM PDT

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Posted by: Seggi31
Posted by: RampantAssass1n
Yes, ratification is where a treaty is sent to the legislative branch to approve it, however, as I already said this isn't a treaty.


Yeah, and you can't enforce anything like this unless it's legislated, like a treaty, or like any other form of legislation, unless it comes under executive power. Nobody's 'stuck' with it.
Let me put it in simple terms for you. Agenda 21 is not a treaty, the U.N. made it to try and help the "collective" of the future (Which is nice, it means a politician somewhere actually looked forwards). It is placed in effect in a country when a representative (like George Bush No. 1 when he was president) signs it. And almost like a coincidence George Bush No. 1 signed it when he was president! (Hope I didn't use too many big words for you)

  • 01.05.2013 7:58 PM PDT

If you place a frog in boiling water, he will jump out in pain immediately. But if you place him in room temperature water and slowly turn up the heat, he will boil alive and accept it willingly.

  • 01.05.2013 8:00 PM PDT

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Posted by: M1Silencer
If you place a frog in boiling water, he will jump out in pain immediately. But if you place him in room temperature water and slowly turn up the heat, he will boil alive and accept it willingly.

When discussing this very topic with people I know, someone used that exact same analogy. How coincidental. But it fits.

It's all being implemented gradually. This isn't an overnight ordeal. It's a multi-step process that builds and builds and builds, until suddenly, it's just there, right before your eyes.

[Edited on 01.05.2013 8:03 PM PST]

  • 01.05.2013 8:02 PM PDT

Posted by: Baph117
This is an incredible step forward to being able to cure Downss sybndonre mn humans bineg.s

Posted by: RampantAssass1n
Let me put it in simple terms for you. Agenda 21 is not a treaty, the U.N. made it to try and help the "collective" of the future (Which is nice, it means a politician somewhere actually looked forwards). It is placed in effect in a country when a representative (like George Bush No. 1 when he was president) signs it. And almost like a coincidence George Bush No. 1 signed it when he was president! (Hope I didn't use too many big words for you)


Except it wasn't 'placed in effect', because that's not how the United States government works.

Posted by: Zuuru
It's all being implemented gradually. This isn't an overnight ordeal. It's a multi-step process that builds and builds and builds, until suddenly, it's just there, right before your eyes.


And then before anybody knows what hit them, government funding and welfare might go to poor people instead of the middle and upper classes! The horror!

[Edited on 01.05.2013 8:12 PM PST]

  • 01.05.2013 8:08 PM PDT

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Posted by: Seggi31
Posted by: RampantAssass1n
Let me put it in simple terms for you. Agenda 21 is not a treaty, the U.N. made it to try and help the "collective" of the future (Which is nice, it means a politician somewhere actually looked forwards). It is placed in effect in a country when a representative (like George Bush No. 1 when he was president) signs it. And almost like a coincidence George Bush No. 1 signed it when he was president! (Hope I didn't use too many big words for you)


Except it wasn't 'placed in effect', because that's not how the United States government works.
As stated by OP, it doesn't happen over night, it is a gradual thing that happens ever so slowly until BAM you wake up and have lost half your rights.

  • 01.05.2013 8:12 PM PDT

Posted by: Baph117
This is an incredible step forward to being able to cure Downss sybndonre mn humans bineg.s

Posted by: RampantAssass1n
As stated by OP, it doesn't happen over night, it is a gradual thing that happens ever so slowly until BAM you wake up and have lost half your rights.


Except, firstly, that isn't what it does, and, secondly, it all has to be implemented manually by local, regional and national governments.

  • 01.05.2013 8:14 PM PDT

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Posted by: Seggi31
Posted by: RampantAssass1n
As stated by OP, it doesn't happen over night, it is a gradual thing that happens ever so slowly until BAM you wake up and have lost half your rights.


Except, firstly, that isn't what it does, and, secondly, it all has to be implemented manually by local, regional and national governments.
Someone isn't doing their research.

  • 01.05.2013 8:17 PM PDT