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Subject: Are -blam!- people too flamboyant?

Posted by: Fleshjack
Someone that is flamboyant is obnoxious. I find things that are obnoxious annoying.
You act as though there is some objective standard of obnox-isity.

[Edited on 01.06.2013 3:11 AM PST]

  • 01.06.2013 3:07 AM PDT

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  • 01.06.2013 3:11 AM PDT

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Posted by: Fleshjack
Someone that is flamboyant is obnoxious. I find things that are obnoxious annoying. This has nothing to do with gender or -blam!-ity. Just as much, I find people that talk "ghetto" annoying.

It has nothing to do with being racism, sexist, or homophpbic. Annoying things are annoying.
Yes, FJ, it does. You were, as a matter of fact, raised in a culture that values hetero-blam!-ity and gender conformity. So much does our culture embrace these things, in fact, that other forms of expression are considered abnormal. And "abnormal" things, FJ, are often perceived as "annoying" because they clash with our understanding of what is normal.

Your annoyance at those who talk talk "ghetto" was, similarly, most likely borne of the normalization of what is traditionally considered the register of upper-middle-class white individuals over the preferred register of other groups. If such normalization did not exist, then it is extremely unlikely that you would find such speech annoying; you would simply find it to be another equally valid way of speaking the English language.

The problem, FJ, is not really that you find these things annoying. Rather, it is that you find it annoying but refuse to acknowledge that it is likely the result of societal standards of behavior that arbitrarily favor certain groups over others, and instead constantly seek the approval of others in a desperate and fallacious attempt to prove that your views are somehow not the result of the blind acceptance of prejudice.

  • 01.06.2013 3:16 AM PDT

Posted by: Fleshjack
Am I not allowed to call anything obnoxious since someone else might say that it isn't obnoxious? I mean come on. I find it obnoxious and that has nothing to do with -blam!-ity or gender but he keeps at it. He keeps ignoring the fact that countless period in this thread support me and saying that flamboyancy is obnoxious and that don't like straight flamboyant people either so it isn't a -blam!-ity thing.
Of course you can say you find things obnoxious. That isn't really what I was commenting on: you tried to manipulate the rhetoric to make it look like you're actually deriving something when really all you're saying is "I find flamboyancy to be annoying." You're not really thinking about *why* you find things annoying.

[Edited on 01.06.2013 3:21 AM PST]

  • 01.06.2013 3:18 AM PDT

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Posted by: Fleshjack

Posted by: You Know Already

Posted by: Fleshjack
Someone that is flamboyant is obnoxious. I find things that are obnoxious annoying. This has nothing to do with gender or -blam!-ity. Just as much, I find people that talk "ghetto" annoying.

It has nothing to do with being racism, sexist, or homophpbic. Annoying things are annoying.


That idiot is never going to admit flamboyancy is annoying. He's just going to tell you to embrace the annoyance and enjoy it no matter what because you were raised evil.
I don't think he is an idiot. I just think he is a kind of stubborn. He is a feminist too.
Lol.

What is really funny though is that he keeps making it out that being flamboyant makes me sexist or whatever. Well that means that flamboyancy has to do with a specific gender so if anything he is stereotyping flamboyancy along gender lines so he is being more sexistThis is probably the single most incoherent argument I have ever seen you attempt to make.

First of all, I don't really think of flamboyancy as a legitimate or useful concept except insofar as it is used as a tool of discrimination by people like you. In my ideal world, the concept of flamboyancy would not exist.

Secondly, in no way did I say or imply that flamboyancy was exclusive to one gender. When I state that the concept of flamboyancy and its negative connotations are sexist, it is because the concept calls certain actions by members of one sex normal while calling the same act in other sexes "famboyant." That is sexism.

  • 01.06.2013 3:22 AM PDT

Posted by: Great_Pretender
Case and point: don't worry about it. Girls start getting boobies pretty soon, and then you'll have plenty of other things to think about. Being an Inheritor is not a life goal.
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Posted by: NewRadical12
Are people who freak out over word shortenings or grammatical errors over the internet a product of their OCD and highly educated culture? If so, then what exists in a list of annoyances that can't be attributed to being a product of their owner's culture or environment?

Do I dislike chevy trucks because I was raised in a family that has consistently owned Fords, or was that drawn from personal experience?

I'm not understanding the connection you're driving at.

  • 01.06.2013 3:24 AM PDT

Posted by: Baph117
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Posted by: Fleshjack
Just as much, I find people that talk "ghetto" annoying.


"I don't hate black people, I just hate everything that I associate with black people."

  • 01.06.2013 3:24 AM PDT

Posted by: Baph117
This is an incredible step forward to being able to cure Downss sybndonre mn humans bineg.s

Posted by: Xplode441
Are people who freak out over word shortenings or grammatical errors over the internet a product of their OCD and highly educated culture?


Maybe it is because they come from a well educated background. The thing is, placing a high value on education isn't a problem. Placing one on heteronormativity is.

Posted by: NewRadical12
Posted by: Fleshjack
I don't think he is an idiot. I just think he is a kind of stubborn. He is a feminist too.
Lol.


That justled my rimmies.

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  • 01.06.2013 3:32 AM PDT

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Your annoyance at those who talk talk "ghetto" was, similarly, most likely borne of the normalization of what is traditionally considered the register of upper-middle-class white individuals over the preferred register of other groups. If such normalization did not exist, then it is extremely unlikely that you would find such speech annoying; you would simply find it to be another equally valid way of speaking the English language.Lol. It isn't equally valid. They are objectively incorrect. Grammar and spelling has set objective rules.One time I got banned because I typed a couple dozen lines of "HAHA" at a statement far less ridiculous than this one. If I could do so in this instance without being banned again, I would. Upper-middle white class also has nothing to do with. I know plenty of white kids that try to talk like that because they want to be "gangstas". It bothers me no matter who does it.That doesn't negate the fact that such register has certain racial and socioeconomic connotations that are not valued by society...

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Posted by: You Know Already
Posted by: Fleshjack
Someone that is flamboyant is obnoxious. I find things that are obnoxious annoying. This has nothing to do with gender or -blam!-ity. Just as much, I find people that talk "ghetto" annoying.

It has nothing to do with being racism, sexist, or homophpbic. Annoying things are annoying.


That idiot is never going to admit flamboyancy is annoying. He's just going to tell you to embrace the annoyance and enjoy it no matter what because you were raised evil.

I don't find flamboyancy annoying. I do find people that care how others act enough to be annoyed by it to be stupid though.

  • 01.06.2013 3:35 AM PDT

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Posted by: Fleshjack

Posted by: NewRadical12
That doesn't negate the fact that such register has certain racial and socioeconomic connotations that are not valued by society...
So we can't be annoyed by anything that might have a racial or socioeconomic connotation even when the annoyance spans all people?

Lol.
Okay, so if killing was associated by a certain race. We can't be annoyed by killing since it would be racist. Get over yourself.We could, FJ, because killing is bad for reasons that have nothing to do with race.

Of course, "annoyed" would be very far down the list of adjectives I would use to describe my feelings about killing...

[Edited on 01.06.2013 3:38 AM PST]

  • 01.06.2013 3:37 AM PDT

Posted by: Great_Pretender
Case and point: don't worry about it. Girls start getting boobies pretty soon, and then you'll have plenty of other things to think about. Being an Inheritor is not a life goal.
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Posted by: Seggi31
Maybe it is because they come from a well educated background. The thing is, placing a high value on education isn't a problem. Placing one on heteronormativity is.
But the key word there is maybe. I certainly don't have enough back story on fleshjack to understand where his annoyances originate from. I don't understand how NewRadical is making this connection, unless fleshjack has written a long post about his past and upbringing.

  • 01.06.2013 3:40 AM PDT

Posted by: Baph117
This is an incredible step forward to being able to cure Downss sybndonre mn humans bineg.s

Posted by: Fleshjack
Being annoyed by flamboyancy has nothing to do with hetero-blam!-ity unless you are presupposing that there are certain ways that people should act based on -blam!- orientation which I am not implying. I am not making ANY differentiation between flamboyant -blam!- people, flamboyant straight people, flamboyant women, flamboyant men. They all annoy me equally.
Trying to assume that my dislike for flamboyant implies that I am heteronormatives implies that -blam!- people are flamboyant since I never make a distringuishtion. It was you two that did


No, you've missed the point. The idea is that your annoyance with 'flamboyancy' comes from being raised and living in a heteronormative culture that marginalises and oppresses people who don't conform to its standards of -blam!-ity and gender.

Posted by: Xplode441
But the key word there is maybe. I certainly don't have enough back story on fleshjack to understand where his annoyances originate from. I don't understand how NewRadical is making this connection, unless fleshjack has written a long post about his past and upbringing.


The chances that he was raised in a heteronormative culture are about the same as the chances that he was raised by people.

[Edited on 01.06.2013 3:45 AM PST]

  • 01.06.2013 3:43 AM PDT

Life?
I have the internet and Doctor Who; i don't need a life.

what's the matter, FJ; is your manhood being threatened?

  • 01.06.2013 3:43 AM PDT