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Subject: Why do people say the dark knight rises is riddled with plot holes?

It's not perfect, and obviously the reactor being turned into a neutron bomb isn't the most accurate thing ever.

But to say the thing is with riddled with plot holes, when most of the "plot holes" arise because they didn't get it, is almost just wrong.

[Edited on 01.06.2013 6:14 AM PST]

  • 01.06.2013 6:14 AM PDT

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  • 01.06.2013 6:18 AM PDT

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I like how he made a huge bat signal out of fire on the bridge when he had much more pressing matters at hand.

  • 01.06.2013 6:18 AM PDT

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-Remember when Fox was talking about that security feature to flood the room? Why didn't he do that when they handed the reactor over to Bane?

-That part where those cops were charging at those bad guys. Everyone of them had assault rifles, but hardly any cops were getting killed. Those cops would have gotten slaughtered.

-When Batman used that jet thing to blow up the Battank. There where 2 of them and he blew up 1. So why didn't they use the 2nd one on the cops?

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They do?

  • 01.06.2013 6:19 AM PDT


Posted by: BerzerkCommando
-Remember when Fox was talking about that security feature to flood the room? Why didn't he do that when they handed the reactor over to Bane?


Whos to say Bruce told Fox how to do that?

Posted by: BerzerkCommando
-That part where those cops were charging at those bad guys. Everyone of them had assault rifles, but hardly any cops were getting killed. Those cops would have gotten slaughtered.


Not really a plot hole, just bad choreography, which is understandable given the amount of people involved.


Posted by: BerzerkCommando
-When Batman used that jet thing to blow up the Battank. There where 2 of them and he blew up 1. So why didn't they use the 2nd one on the cops?


Because the cops got to the tumber , and when hundreds of people are overruning your vehicle it's possible for it, or the driver, to get hurt in some way.

  • 01.06.2013 6:22 AM PDT
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How does Bruce just waltz back into Gotham, the most secure and heavily defended place in the world, with no money, no technology, and trapped in a third world country?

Why were there no guards outside the pit? How were the prisoners getting food? Was Bruce really getting enough food to be able to get stronger and maintain muscle? I imagine he'd need like 5000 calories a day, and 200 grams of Protein at the least...something I imagine he wouldn't get in a prison.

Why do Bane and Talia want to blow up "corrupt" Gotham, when organized crime is gone?

  • 01.06.2013 6:26 AM PDT

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  • 01.06.2013 6:27 AM PDT

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  • 01.06.2013 6:29 AM PDT

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Guys. It's a movie. Go read a book if you want every little tidbit of information on how Bruce was able to keep his smile shining everyday and his toe nails short while he stayed in prison.

  • 01.06.2013 6:30 AM PDT


Posted by: I AM THOR
How does Bruce just waltz back into Gotham, the most secure and heavily defended place in the world, with no money, no technology, and trapped in a third world country?


A) He's Batman. He has the training of master stealth. THe suit doesn't make him automatically know all his techniques

B) When he escaped the pit you see him next to a city

C) Never actually said where the pit is.

Posted by: I AM THOR
Why were there no guards outside the pit? How were the prisoners getting food? Was Bruce really getting enough food to be able to get stronger and maintain muscle? I imagine he'd need like 5000 calories a day, and 200 grams of Protein at the least...something I imagine he wouldn't get in a prison


Oh boy, someone really missed the point of the pit. There were no guards, thats the point. The point of the prison is to torture the soul with the feeling of hope. Having a massive hole that you can climb your way to freedom sounds great, but you know you can't. Many have died trying.

Posted by: I AM THOR
Why do Bane and Talia want to blow up "corrupt" Gotham, when
organized crime is gone?


A) Tahlia's revenge for her Father's murder.

B) I'll let Ras tell you why himself

  • 01.06.2013 6:31 AM PDT

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I look forward to the rather mundane sequel where Batman (now Joseph Gordon-Levitt) works in a hospital treating victims of radiation sickness after drinking irradiated water and swimming in the sea.

  • 01.06.2013 6:34 AM PDT
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Posted by: SkilPhil
I like how he made a huge bat signal out of fire on the bridge when he had much more pressing matters at hand.


The Dildact agrees.

Asian cop got killed and a grenade got dropped into a crowded sewer tunnel.

  • 01.06.2013 6:35 AM PDT
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Posted by: floppy willy

Posted by: I AM THOR
Why were there no guards outside the pit? How were the prisoners getting food? Was Bruce really getting enough food to be able to get stronger and maintain muscle? I imagine he'd need like 5000 calories a day, and 200 grams of Protein at the least...something I imagine he wouldn't get in a prison


Oh boy, someone really missed the point of the pit. There were no guards, thats the point. The point of the prison is to torture the soul with the feeling of hope. Having a massive hole that you can climb your way to freedom sounds great, but you know you can't. Many have died trying.


I understood the point fine thank you very much. It's funny though that you completely ignored my question. If there were no guards explain how they got food?



Posted by: I AM THOR
Why do Bane and Talia want to blow up "corrupt" Gotham, when
organized crime is gone?

A) Tahlia's revenge for her Father's murder.

B) I'll let Ras tell you why himself


Ra's was a dream...it doesn't explain Bane and Talia's motivation for wanting to blow up the city. Bane didn't find out everything was based on a lie until he accidentely found Gordan's papers.

  • 01.06.2013 6:35 AM PDT


Posted by: I AM THOR
I understood the point fine thank you very much. It's funny though that you completely ignored my question. If there were no guards explain how they got food?


Because it's still maintained by the league of shadows. They obviously send down supplies once in a while. Hardly a plothole.

Posted by: I AM THOR
Ra's was a dream...it doesn't explain Bane and Talia's motivation for wanting to blow up the city. Bane didn't find out everything was based on a lie until he accidentely found Gordan's papers.


Here's Bane telling you why they're doing it

To torture Bruce's soul and to fulfill Ras al Ghuls destiny. And there's still crime, just a lack of organised crime due to locking them all up and throwing away the key.

[Edited on 01.06.2013 6:40 AM PST]

  • 01.06.2013 6:40 AM PDT


Posted by: BerzerkCommando
-Remember when Fox was talking about that security feature to flood the room? Why didn't he do that when they handed the reactor over to Bane?

-That part where those cops were charging at those bad guys. Everyone of them had assault rifles, but hardly any cops were getting killed. Those cops would have gotten slaughtered.

-When Batman used that jet thing to blow up the Battank. There where 2 of them and he blew up 1. So why didn't they use the 2nd one on the cops?


The first isn't really a plot hole - more of an issue you have with the plot. It's not a mistake, or an oversight, it's just that would have made for an awful film.

The second one I don't really know about. The cops only had pistols but they all just charged and did hand to hand combat.

As for what you call "Battank"s, he didn't blow them up, he just destroyed the gun on top of one of them. I believe they had different armaments and the other one didn't have it. Then the two of them were destroyed during the chase for the bomb.


Most people have issues with the ending, but it makes sense if you listen and watch carefully. He survived the bomb, but that's because he wasn't in the Bat when it blew. He had fixed the autopilot and that's how he lived.

  • 01.06.2013 6:41 AM PDT


Posted by: BerzerkCommando
-Remember when Fox was talking about that security feature to flood the room? Why didn't he do that when they handed the reactor over to Bane?


Because Bane was watching him and would've killed him if he tried anything funny.

Posted by: BerzerkCommando
-That part where those cops were charging at those bad guys. Everyone of them had assault rifles, but hardly any cops were getting killed. Those cops would have gotten slaughtered.


I'll give you that one, just a bit of stupidity I guess.

Posted by: BerzerkCommando
-When Batman used that jet thing to blow up the Battank. There where 2 of them and he blew up 1. So why didn't they use the 2nd one on the cops?


More stupidity.

  • 01.06.2013 6:44 AM PDT

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Posted by: cameronm98
it's just that would have made for an awful film.


How would it have made the film "awful"? No major characters died in TDKR which really irked me because there was no indication of tension in many moments. What could have been better than Fox, no, MORGAN FREEMAN, attempting go make a heroic sacrifice to flood the chamber and ensure the reactor couldn't be turned into a bomb?

  • 01.06.2013 6:46 AM PDT
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The one thing that bothered me a little was the ending. The bomb had a six mile blast radius, and Batman had a minute to get in the Bat, take off, land, activate the autopilot, and get the bomb clear of the city. And on top of that, before he takes off, he just sits there talking to Selina and Gordon like he had all the time in the world. Seemed like quite a stretch to me.

Also, weren't the cops trapped underground for months? Wouldn't they have starved to death?

[Edited on 01.06.2013 6:47 AM PST]

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Posted by: floppy willy
Posted by: I AM THOR
Ra's was a dream...it doesn't explain Bane and Talia's motivation for wanting to blow up the city. Bane didn't find out everything was based on a lie until he accidentely found Gordan's papers.


Here's Bane telling you why they're doing it

To torture Bruce's soul and to fulfill Ras al Ghuls destiny. And there's still crime, just a lack of organised crime due to locking them all up and throwing away the key.


Why do they want to torture Bruce's soul so bad? They want to kill millions of innocent people, just because of one man? WHY? Talia didn't even like her father, considering he excommunicated Bane.

And of course there's still crime...every city in the world has crime. However, Gotham had no organized crime and was incredibly safe for 8 years. So all that crap about corruption is completely BS, as Bane didn't know about how everything was based on a lie. So he did this whole elaborate plot, and was willing to sacrifice himself and Talia, along with millions of innocent people...just to torture and eventually kill Bruce.

  • 01.06.2013 6:46 AM PDT


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Also, weren't the cops trapped underground for months? Wouldn't they have starved to death?


Bane said he has been feeding them.

  • 01.06.2013 6:48 AM PDT


Posted by: I AM THOR
Why do they want to torture Bruce's soul so bad? They want to kill millions of innocent people, just because of one man? WHY? Talia didn't even like her father, considering he excommunicated Bane.


"I couldn't forgive him. Untill you killed him" after he had been killed Tahlia found it within her to forgive her father.

Posted by: I AM THOR
And of course there's still crime...every city in the world has crime. However, Gotham had no organized crime and was incredibly safe for 8 years. So all that crap about corruption is completely BS, as Bane didn't know about how everything was based on a lie. So he did this whole elaborate plot, and was willing to sacrifice himself and Talia, along with millions of innocent people...just to torture and eventually kill Bruce.


Just because there was no crime, doesn't mean there was no corruption in the rich and powerful. Just no organised crime from the mob. And of course he eventually found about the corruption in the GCPD as well.

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So Dagget wanted to take over Wayne Enterprises. Great. So instead of hacking Bruce's E-Trade account you need to steal his fingerprints to make the bad investments in person? OK, sure. Only wouldn't anyone find it odd that a man who hasn't been seen in 8 years is suddenly out in the world and at the Stock Exchange no less. And isn't a bit fishy that the same day it is attacked by thugs Wayne loses all his money? It all just doesn't add up. The financial officials in Gotham must be real jerks if they believe that a billionaire would blow every single dime in ten minutes.

Why wouldn't every trade that occurred on...you know...a terrorist attack be put on hold and investigated?

[Edited on 01.06.2013 6:54 AM PST]

  • 01.06.2013 6:53 AM PDT


Posted by: I AM THOR
So Dagget wanted to take over Wayne Enterprises. Great. So instead of hacking Bruce's E-Trade account you need to steal his fingerprints to make the bad investments in person? OK, sure. Only wouldn't anyone find it odd that a man who hasn't been seen in 8 years is suddenly out in the world and at the Stock Exchange no less. And isn't a bit fishy that the same day it is attacked by thugs Wayne loses all his money? It all just doesn't add up. The financial officials in Gotham must be real jerks if they believe that a billionaire would blow every single dime in ten minutes.


Well, when you put all of your investment in a nuclear reactor for clean energy but don't turn it on, then you're not exactly gonna gain money, are you?

  • 01.06.2013 6:55 AM PDT

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Posted by: floppy willy
Whos to say Bruce told Fox how to do that?

Because letting the enemy get their hands on a WMD that's able to kill every single person in the city is the greatest idea ever. While he's at it he should give a 2 year old a button that's linked to every launch able nuke in the country.

Not really a plot hole, just bad choreography, which is understandable given the amount of people involved.
Those cops had to run a pretty far distance to get to them. They were charging at over 100 people that had long range assault rifles. The cops were packed together. The only thing they had to do was point at them and fire.

Because the cops got to the tumber , and when hundreds of people are overruning your vehicle it's possible for it, or the driver, to get hurt in some way.
They didn't have it when they were charging at those guys. The weapons they had on them wouldn't harm that vehicle. Also that vehicle is not alone. It has the support of the other people around it.

  • 01.06.2013 6:55 AM PDT