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Subject: Why weren't Drones and Engineers in Halo 4?
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Posted by: ajw34307

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Posted by: ajw34307
Engineers fled from Covenant control towards the end of the war and ended up in the hands of humanity, which is why we have managed to recover within a matter of years after the war. Drones were simply an enslaved race by the Covenant and never really followed its beliefs, which is why they didn't rejoin when Jul reformed it.

Who on earth would want Drones in the game anyway? Every time they've been in they've been horrible to fight against.


That, Chronarch I can agree on, but I would have liked Engineers, like I said in the OP


Ooh, where do you know me from? (Or are you using coup? I don't know, I'm on my iPod) :P

Engineers could have been interesting as an allied mechanic, being able to transform Forerunner terrain - in a similar way that the Didact can make cover disappear, or restructure a tower's platforms on Shutdown. Engineers could have served a similar function to Elizabeth in Bioshock: Infinite.

Thinking about it, this could have been bloody awesome!


Yeah I was actually thinking Shutdown would also be a good level for them to show up in and they'd probably also give shields to all enemies like in ODST

  • 01.07.2013 8:16 AM PDT
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Posted by: Arby Viper
And did you guys know that there was concept art for a ingame Brute Chieftain?
A massive Brute Chieftain.

Interesting how Midnight has a gravity hammer but there's no Brutes to be found.

I don't know about you but I think they were going to have a mutated Brute serving as a boss.

Me thinks it'd have been eliminated all the disappointment about the Didact QTE fight. Even if it had been a crap bullet sponge, at least it'd be replayable.

  • 01.07.2013 8:22 AM PDT

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Posted by: Arby Viper
And did you guys know that there was concept art for a ingame Brute Chieftain?
A massive Brute Chieftain.

Interesting how Midnight has a gravity hammer but there's no Brutes to be found.

I don't know about you but I think they were going to have a mutated Brute serving as a boss.

Me thinks it'd have been eliminated all the disappointment about the Didact QTE fight. Even if it had been a crap bullet sponge, at least it'd be replayable.


It was indeed a GIANT, when Bungie showed their early Halo Reach built at PAX, there happened to be some oversized brutes in it... I was also hoping that Rtas 'Vadum ( Shipmaster Halo 3 ) and Thel 'Vadam ( The Arbiter ) made a return in Halo 4.

  • 01.07.2013 8:24 AM PDT
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Posted by: Sliding Ghost

Posted by: Arby Viper
And did you guys know that there was concept art for a ingame Brute Chieftain?
A massive Brute Chieftain.

Interesting how Midnight has a gravity hammer but there's no Brutes to be found.

I don't know about you but I think they were going to have a mutated Brute serving as a boss.

Me thinks it'd have been eliminated all the disappointment about the Didact QTE fight. Even if it had been a crap bullet sponge, at least it'd be replayable.


Can Brutes be composed?

  • 01.07.2013 8:27 AM PDT

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Posted by: SonicJohn
Come on. Don't resort to "canon" to explain why a perfectly fine gameplay element didn't make it into the game.

343 obviously had a bone to pick with the Drones and Engineers, as well as Brutes, so didn't want to have any of them in the game. Canon in games is reflective of design decisions. Same reason skirmishers aren't in Halo 4.


I'm fairly sure Bungie stated that Skirmishers had gone extinct, which is why they weren't in CE-3
a named Skirmisher is in Thursday War. He'll be in the third book too.

  • 01.07.2013 8:27 AM PDT


Posted by: crispychicken49
It is a design choice, not canon.
They made the story before the gameplay- the choice of making Huragok not available to this faction was made long before gameplay was even closed to finalized. Therefore it was a canon choice. I don't see how that can be argued.

The UNSC had plenty of Huragok on the Infinity.
We had a few and produced more.
Not only that, but this was a Shield World. Previous canon states that Huragok are all over Shield Worlds."All over" is a pretty strong statement, especially when it has been stated not even Engineers were supposed to know where Requiem was. That aside, it seems pretty ridiculous for you to say that just because any Requiem Engineers (of which there likely aren't any but whatever) didn't aid the Covenant they weren't added because of gameplay.

Story comes before gameplay. Story is developed first.

  • 01.07.2013 8:46 PM PDT

I kinda had a thread about this. Anyways, I felt that due to the actions of the huragok that let what's his face escape Onyx, I think the UNSC trusted them less. Also, the engineers were waiting for the forerunners to re-emerge. Had they been in the Infinity, they would've jumped ship and switched sides.

Drones, someone mentioned that they follow a "queen" or something and they treated the prophets as queens. So when they left, the drones followed suite, I guess. It really hasn't been followed up on in the books or anything. It also hasn't been explained why the hunters are with the storm faction, or what happened the Arbiter and his forces around 2557.

  • 01.07.2013 9:05 PM PDT

1. You don't want Engineers on the battlefield. At least the UNSC doesn't.
2. Drones are minding their own business. The Covenant collapsed and they supported the Prophets, not the Elites, during the Great Schism.

  • 01.07.2013 9:16 PM PDT

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