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Subject: Abstinence Teachings or Sex-Ed Teachings?

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This is NOT a religious discussion. Yes abstinence is a part of some religions, but this is about which method you teach in schools. I aslo don't care which road you take. Personally I will probably abstain from sex until I can father a child, just incase mistakes happen.

Middle Schools and High-Schools all teach something about sex. Either they have a Sex-Ed class, or they have a speaker come to teach to the class at whole. Schools can go down either method. They can choose to educate about sex and how to take safety precautions, or they can choose to teach abstinence, which is abstaining from sex until marriage.

As I see it, abstinence teachings are inferior. Why might you ask? Simply the fact that if a horny teenager wants to have sex, then someone telling them to wait for marriage won't really change his mind. What you can do is to educate him on how to be protected. No teenager wants herpes and any teenager with a small amount of intelligence knows that is not a time to bring a child into the world.

Another thing I think abstinence teaches, is that marriage is all about sex. Marriage is about love, and yes, sex and love coexist, but you can love, without having sex. You can have sex, without loving the person you're having sex with. A lot of teenagers that grew up in our community here got taught this abstinence education. There was someone's son who married his high-school sweetheart straight out of high-school. They wanted to have sex and thought that marriage was a good option. This early marriage caused a lot of stress, which in turn caused them to break apart after many years together.

These people who teach abstinence also have babies right out of college, when they don't know whether they will have a job or anything 9 months in the future. Things are too uncertain in this economy, and at that age to have a child. I see them making the dumb decisions more than I see any teenager at my school, at least those related to sex.

Tl;dr: Sex-Ed is better because it teaches how to be protected, while abstinence doesn't, and even makes another message where marriage is all about sex.

  • 01.07.2013 5:56 AM PDT

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Posted by: crispychicken49
Tl;dr at the bottom
Tl;dr: Sex-Ed is better because it teaches how to be protected, while abstinence doesn't, and even makes another message where marriage is all about sex.


Yes, that is correct. Anyone who feels otherwise is misguided by an influential upbringing.

What is the point of this thread?

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Our school system did both. In elementary school we just learned about our body and the changes that we would eventually go through.

In middle school they taught us the value of having a child and if we weren't ready for it we shouldn't be having sex.

In high school it was primarily focused on how to keep ourselves safe during sex.


All in all, I think I've learned more on /b/ than in school.

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Sex-Ed teachings.

Abstinence teachings would not work here in Sweden.


A question to those in the rest of the world: Can you get condoms for free from the school nurse at your school?

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Posted by: ViVo 444
Sex-Ed teachings.

Abstinence teachings would not work here in Sweden.


A question to those in the rest of the world: Can you get condoms for free from the school nurse at your school?


I don't think so. But we do have the dispensers in the bathroom, someone tries to flush one on a daily basis.

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Posted by: ViVo 444
Sex-Ed teachings.

Abstinence teachings would not work here in Sweden.


A question to those in the rest of the world: Can you get condoms for free from the school nurse at your school?
Not a chance in hell for schools here.

Well here, it's a mix of both sex-ed and abstinence.

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Posted by: ViVo 444
Sex-Ed teachings.

Abstinence teachings would not work here in Sweden.


A question to those in the rest of the world: Can you get condoms for free from the school nurse at your school?
Not a chance in hell for schools here.

Well here, it's a mix of both sex-ed and abstinence.

Where is here?

  • 01.07.2013 6:05 AM PDT


Posted by: WeededDragon
Our school system did both. In elementary school we just learned about our body and the changes that we would eventually go through.

In middle school they taught us the value of having a child and if we weren't ready for it we shouldn't be having sex.

In high school it was primarily focused on how to keep ourselves safe during sex.


All in all, I think I've learned more on /b/ than in school.


Ours has started to be more like this, though the safe sex route has been taught by abstinence sided people.

Elementary we learned about our body.

Middle School we were taught strict abstinence.

High-School we're taught a mix of both. The safe sex part is clouded by bias though. The 'facts' they use hardly qualify as solid facts when anyone with a computer can fact-check it and realize that a condom protects more than %75.8 of the time.

  • 01.07.2013 6:07 AM PDT

I just wish that people would teach that you shouldn't have sex until you're ready. Sex-ed is fine.

Abstinence education is stupid mainly because they tell you "if you have sex before you're married your pen0r will fall into an alternate dimension and get eaten by dogs". Also they don't tell you anything about condoms most of the time but the information that youre taught in school is wildly inaccurate depending on where you go so it makes you think much differently about sex than you normally would.

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Why not both? Abstinence would be a topic under sex education.

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Posted by: ViVo 444
Sex-Ed teachings.

Abstinence teachings would not work here in Sweden.


A question to those in the rest of the world: Can you get condoms for free from the school nurse at your school?
Not a chance in hell for schools here.

Well here, it's a mix of both sex-ed and abstinence.

Where is here?


Most of America.

Then again, I don't even think the most liberal of states would even allow this. I don't expect anyone from outside of America to understand how insane people are here.

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Posted by: ViVo 444
Sex-Ed teachings.

Abstinence teachings would not work here in Sweden.


A question to those in the rest of the world: Can you get condoms for free from the school nurse at your school?
Not a chance in hell for schools here.

Well here, it's a mix of both sex-ed and abstinence.

Where is here?


Most of America.

Then again, I don't even think the most liberal of states would even allow this. I don't expect anyone from outside of America to understand how insane people are here.


They don't teach kids about other forms of contraception besides abstinence?

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Posted by: ViVo 444
Sex-Ed teachings.

Abstinence teachings would not work here in Sweden.


A question to those in the rest of the world: Can you get condoms for free from the school nurse at your school?
Not a chance in hell for schools here.

Well here, it's a mix of both sex-ed and abstinence.

Where is here?


Most of America.

Then again, I don't even think the most liberal of states would even allow this. I don't expect anyone from outside of America to understand how insane people are here.

Well Sweden is pretty chill when it comes to sex.
One thing people find weird is that it is legal to sell sex here but it is illegal to pay for sex.

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  • 01.07.2013 6:20 AM PDT

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They don't teach kids about other forms of contraception besides abstinence?


It's extremely shunned in some places. I live in Idaho and it's pretty bad here. It's a very christian/mormon state. While the OP said it's not a religious topic, that IS without any question why so many schools / governments support the fear mongering of anti-sex ed.

Though, I did not go to school here, so I can't say first hand, but the average parent age here is horrible. Everywhere you look you see mothers or fathers aged 17 or 18.

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I half expected you to argue pro abstinence because arguing against it just seems redundant at this point.

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  • 01.07.2013 6:25 AM PDT

On a semi-related noted, I heard about a study that showed teens who had taken a sex-ed class were less likely to engage in any activities opposed to those who hadn't taken any.

  • 01.07.2013 6:27 AM PDT

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I've never received abstinence teachings, but I guess it would be preachy adults telling kids what to do, and the kids either not receiving the education they actually need about sex, or deliberately going out of their way to defy the preachy adults.

Again, though, I've never had abstinence teaching.

  • 01.07.2013 6:31 AM PDT

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A proper sex ed lesson would include abstinence. It's a no-brainer.

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  • 01.07.2013 6:37 AM PDT

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Teenagers like to hump things, it's better to assume that and prepare them safely than tell them nothing about it. I see a lot of abstinence literature that makes sex seem wrong of forbidden when it's totally natural.

You should educate about STD's, risks and above all the amount of money it would cost to have a child early then let them decide on their own, rather than push them away with the wrong message and ensuring they all get pregnant.

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