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Subject: Bookless school where everyone has Ipads

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While it would be cool, I can't see how an iPad could be any more effective than a regular book.

  • 01.07.2013 7:30 AM PDT

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iPads are better content viewers than creators. I wouldn't want to have to do my work on an iPad.

  • 01.07.2013 7:34 AM PDT


Posted by: jjj205
I think books are better. Not only do you learn you also learn to write. Let's not forget exams like gcse require you to write. No matter what. Even if you broke your arm you have to get someone to write for you.

This idea has more downs than ups.


This is more of a call to update our exams rather than to hold back innovation in schools.

  • 01.07.2013 7:36 AM PDT

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Posted by: DarkBen64
Not true. Apple/iTunes offers a massive set of educational apps and programmes. It's a lot better than anything Droid has to offer.


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  • 01.07.2013 7:43 AM PDT
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Posted by: coolmike699

Posted by: jjj205
I think books are better. Not only do you learn you also learn to write. Let's not forget exams like gcse require you to write. No matter what. Even if you broke your arm you have to get someone to write for you.

This idea has more downs than ups.


This is more of a call to update our exams rather than to hold back innovation in schools.
Exactly my thoughts.

Yea people can say why get rid of pen and paper, but if you think about it we have used them because we have had no other way to write without them until now.

Now we have the technology to reproduce the results of using pen on paper but in a more environmentally way, soon we will be using our brains to write so why use our hands for that??

If we keep saying "This is way is better, or what about this?" is just people stuck in the old ways and will stop society as whole to stagnate.

We have the technology why not use it? Lots of people are saying "they might break", well yea but so do pens and pencils.

You would prefer a text book? Those text books have people writing all over them and even ripping out pages so a load of good they are.

The school in the video has obviously focused on teaching the importance of the Ipads and to use them for work in school and play games or what not outside of school.

Things need to evolve I don't care if paper is gone because quite frankly we have more space on a hard drive than we do from 10 packs of paper.

  • 01.07.2013 7:50 AM PDT

So instead of paying £80k they've opted to have the constant repairs and upgrades from Apple that would probably cost twice that?

Pfft. Give me a book any time of the week. At least that won't screw my eyes.

  • 01.07.2013 7:52 AM PDT
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Posted by: XxSpearheadxX
So instead of paying £80k they've opted to have the constant repairs and upgrades from Apple that would probably cost twice that?

Pfft. Give me a book any time of the week. At least that won't screw my eyes.
If it's going to save money then obviously it's worth it.

What they are saying is it'll save the school money because they don't need to keep buying lots of books and paper along with recycling them.

Ipads are clearly a cheaper cost.

  • 01.07.2013 7:56 AM PDT


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Posted by: DarkBen64
Not true. Apple/iTunes offers a massive set of educational apps and programmes. It's a lot better than anything Droid has to offer.


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  • 01.07.2013 7:58 AM PDT
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The iPad is a decent investment, I have tried Android tablets and they haven't satisfied me like an iPad. Perhaps, this year things might turn around.

Please note that Google Store isn't present in my country, alas only the iTunes store is accessible and accepts payments. So, that's already a deep difference.

Besides that, the screen and the overall quality is decent. If the school has the funds then an iPad is a solid choice.

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Posted by: Darkm0d

Posted by: DarkBen64
Not true. Apple/iTunes offers a massive set of educational apps and programmes. It's a lot better than anything Droid has to offer.


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>Refutes point by practically calling me an idiot
>Doesn't provide any better counterpoint

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Posted by: DarkONI
The iPad is a decent investment, I have tried Android tablets and they haven't satisfied me like an iPad.
I have one and I love it, over a year now. Think if people understood the potential it has then its well worth it.

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Well, here we are. I guess that it was destined to come to this.

I would imagine that it would be wiser (and cheaper) to start replacing textbooks where they are incredibly expensive and it is already likely that the student has a tablet. At the college/university level.

  • 01.07.2013 8:08 AM PDT

Since when did pen and paper go out of fashion? Jheez next generation are getting sissified.

  • 01.07.2013 8:42 AM PDT

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>reduce paper usage
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  • 01.07.2013 8:45 AM PDT

Now let's get down to business, I don't got no time to play around, what is this?

Pretty much all the teachers and some other members of staff have iPads now in my school. I sometimes take mine to school, but only to play games on or watch videos in free lessons.

  • 01.07.2013 8:47 AM PDT

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So now you can copy and paste homework? Great! Just great! I hope that real books will never die.

  • 01.07.2013 8:49 AM PDT
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Well, with my former highschool...

Each textbook was about $100. With 1200 students, roughly six textbooks per, and about one-third of the textbooks needing replacement every year, plus sales tax (0.13), the value of one year's textbooks is 1.05 million. Roughly one third of that is spent every year on new textbooks, for about 1/3rd of a million.

As opposed to an iPad per student that stays at school... 349.99 plus tax is around $410, plus a warranty for $80 (Don't remember how long they last, usually 2-5 years, so I'll pin it at 3) for around 500 dollars, multiplied by students. This is only about $600,000 a year, no extra cost other than Internet, which is inexpensive anyways for unlimited bandwidth (80-100 dollars per month, with about 100 dollars given if I'm off.)

It would be much cheaper, but harder to manage and would need much more...

*sunglasses*

paperwork.

  • 01.07.2013 8:57 AM PDT


Posted by: Shwamooper
Well, with my former highschool...

Each textbook was about $100. With 1200 students, roughly six textbooks per, and about one-third of the textbooks needing replacement every year, plus sales tax (0.13), the value of one year's textbooks is 1.05 million. Roughly one third of that is spent every year on new textbooks, for about 1/3rd of a million.

As opposed to an iPad per student that stays at school... 349.99 plus tax is around $410, plus a warranty for $80 (Don't remember how long they last, usually 2-5 years, so I'll pin it at 3) for around 500 dollars, multiplied by students. This is only about $600,000 a year, no extra cost other than Internet, which is inexpensive anyways for unlimited bandwidth (80-100 dollars per month, with about 100 dollars given if I'm off.)

It would be much cheaper, but harder to manage and would need much more...

*sunglasses*

paperwork.

You do realize you still have to buy an electronic version of the book for students, right?

  • 01.07.2013 9:01 AM PDT

Wanting to reduce bills, so they get them Ipads? The -blam!-? Unless they're Ipad 2's, they could save even more money with something far more affordable.

  • 01.07.2013 9:04 AM PDT


Posted by: Recon Number 54
I would imagine that it would be wiser (and cheaper) to start replacing textbooks where they are incredibly expensive and it is already likely that the student has a tablet. At the college/university level.

The problem is, at least here in Canada, is the way in which you access e-books for College/University is god awful. Usually through terrible 3rd party web-applications, not even real apps. Then there's the fact that you're only paying like 10-15% less, while you only have access to the e-book in for the semester you bought it in.

I won't be happy with e-textbooks until they bring down the price at least 40%, and I continue to have access to the book after my semester is done. Textbooks can be very useful as a reference in the future for other courses, taking them away after the class it was meant for is done makes me rage.

  • 01.07.2013 9:10 AM PDT

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  • 01.07.2013 9:11 AM PDT
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Posted by: XxMuNcHmOnKeYxX
It's all fine and dandy until one of them actually breaks.

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  • 01.07.2013 9:13 AM PDT

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Posted by: A Good Troll
Good, feed the Apple machine.

Even as a staunch Apple supporter, I have to wonder if it really makes sense to buy iPads when there are cheaper alternatives.

School kids don't need things like high resolution retina displays and other iPad features that push the price tag higher.
Hear, hear. There's two schools in my district looking toward the iPad for use in the classroom and at home. The IT department refuses to consider using an Android tablet for a fraction of the price, and all the same available educational tools.

Considering California's economic issues, especially with education, spending that much on iPads causes concern for me.

  • 01.07.2013 9:13 AM PDT
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Posted by: A Good Troll
Good, feed the Apple machine.

Even as a staunch Apple supporter, I have to wonder if it really makes sense to buy iPads when there are cheaper alternatives.

School kids don't need things like high resolution retina displays and other iPad features that push the price tag higher.
Hear, hear. There's two schools in my district looking toward the iPad for use in the classroom and at home. The IT department refuses to consider using an Android tablet for a fraction of the price, and all the same available educational tools.

Considering California's economic issues, especially with education, spending that much on iPads causes concern for me.
Well clearly they know something you don't, for example I bet most students have ipods and Iphones so they have the knowledge and software to use Ipads.

No sense having androids when everybody knows how to use the "I" products.

  • 01.07.2013 9:30 AM PDT

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So the future where everyone has a mini computer is now real?

  • 01.07.2013 9:31 AM PDT

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