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Subject: So I just finished Mass Effect 2

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Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

The nitpicking in this thread is unbelievable.

  • 01.07.2013 8:59 AM PDT
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I do not want to stop asking. I do not ask to stop wanting.

GAME OF THE YEAR ALL YEARS

  • 01.07.2013 9:00 AM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.


Posted by: HipiO7
The nitpicking in this thread is unbelievable.


It's not nitpicking. I know you like ME3, but you cannot deny that there are MASSIVE problems in the writing that range from lore-breaking to downright illogical.

  • 01.07.2013 9:01 AM PDT

A kamikaze attack? Good, that's one bastard down.
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Make no mistake - you do NOT have freedom of speech on our website. You do have the freedom to go elsewhere. Take the hint.


Achronos, on the Flood, beating down a 'Flying Rectum'

Posted by: TedToaster22
C'mon, apart from the ending, surely 3 isn't that bad?


My Stats-

ME1- 14+ playthroughs (I even went back to play it recently)
ME2- Nine+ playthroughs
ME3- two playthroughs, started a third but couldn't be bothered to finish.


And I thought it was a really good game. But my playthrough count tells the truth.

  • 01.07.2013 9:02 AM PDT

Yeah, the suicide mission was a nice ending to an otherwise bland campaign. It seemed you spent more time picking up random people that you would never use than you did finding the Collectors.

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Posted by: Hylebos
a nice ending


If you discount the fact that it invalidates every minute of ME1 and 2 because the Reapers just show up.

  • 01.07.2013 9:06 AM PDT

A kamikaze attack? Good, that's one bastard down.
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Make no mistake - you do NOT have freedom of speech on our website. You do have the freedom to go elsewhere. Take the hint.


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Posted by: Hylebos
Yeah, the suicide mission was a nice ending to an otherwise bland campaign. It seemed you spent more time picking up random people that you would never use than you did finding the Collectors.

It was quite a good mission, if only more time was put into developing it and expanding it.
I mean, it was barely longer then any other ME2 mission...

And yet there was all this importance put on it.

  • 01.07.2013 9:07 AM PDT

Posted by:ScubaToaster
Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: HipiO7
The nitpicking in this thread is unbelievable.


It's not nitpicking. I know you like ME3, but you cannot deny that there are MASSIVE problems in the writing that range from lore-breaking to downright illogical.


I wont say no as it is not a perfect game but somethings... just no.

We dont even know if the child on Earth is real. Nobody else but Shepard acknowledges his meer existence. Also the whole evacuation scene was to add drama, nothing more. I dont know why you were so surprised, its happened hundreds of times in other series where whatever should have been blown out of the sky in miliseconds.

Plus the Normandy could possibly be invisible to Reaper scans...It has Reaper tech after all... It would explain why the Normandy can travel through Reaper controlled space and only be detected upon scanning.

  • 01.07.2013 9:12 AM PDT

Soul of the mind, key to life's ether
Soul of the lost, withdrawn from its vessel
May strength be granted so the world might be mended...
So the world might be mended...

Why the hell did you side with Miranda?

And if it's to romance her, why?
Posted by: TedToaster22
Only person to die was Jack. I didn't have enough Paragon or Renegade to regain her loyalty after her argument with Miranda, is that why?)

  • 01.07.2013 9:16 AM PDT

Posted by:ScubaToaster
Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

Posted by: Haloroach
Posted by: Hylebos
a nice ending


If you discount the fact that it invalidates every minute of ME1 and 2 because the Reapers just show up.


*facepalm*

ME1 was stopping the Reapers inmediate arrival. It was done but the Reaper threat was very real and still out there.

ME2 was stopping The Collectors from abducting colonies to create a Reaper. Harbinger throughout the game states the Reapers are coming. They could only be slowed down. Stopping the Reapers from entering the galaxy was never a possibility as they were in Dark Space surrounding the galaxy.

This was all quite obvious.

  • 01.07.2013 9:19 AM PDT
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Halo 2 isn't dead jorge...... its just missing in action.
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Paragade? Paragon.

I went paragon on my first playtrough. Did all loyalty missions. Destroyed the base. Lost Samantha and Morgan. I think I lost someone else aswell. I have been meaning to play all the games again, and have everyone survive in ME2.

Great games.

  • 01.07.2013 9:33 AM PDT
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Posted by: HipiO7
Posted by: Haloroach
Posted by: Hylebos
a nice ending


If you discount the fact that it invalidates every minute of ME1 and 2 because the Reapers just show up.


*facepalm*

ME1 was stopping the Reapers inmediate arrival. It was done but the Reaper threat was very real and still out there.

ME2 was stopping The Collectors from abducting colonies to create a Reaper. Harbinger throughout the game states the Reapers are coming. They could only be slowed down. Stopping the Reapers from entering the galaxy was never a possibility as they were in Dark Space surrounding the galaxy.

This was all quite obvious.


Makes sense, I guess.

But the entire game still just seems sort of like filler content to me.

  • 01.07.2013 9:34 AM PDT

OP, I had the same exact experience as you on my first play-through. Except Jack lived, even though I couldn't regain her loyalty. I used her as the biotic shield during the suicide mission.

TIM was so damn convincing, I just had to give him the base. I regretted it in ME3 the second I spoke to him.

  • 01.07.2013 9:37 AM PDT

Posted by: Haloroach
Posted by: Hylebos
a nice ending


If you discount the fact that it invalidates every minute of ME1 and 2 because the Reapers just show up.
I thought that the foreshadowing wasn't terrible, it was pretty obvious they were going to invade in Mass Effect 3, might as well hype people up.

Posted by: Haloroach
But the entire game still just seems sort of like filler content to me.
Yeah, ME2 was more or less filler from a plot point. Not nearly as much in the way of profound plot revelations, it more seemed like a framework to introduce Cerberus so they wouldn't have to waste a ton of time in the next game.

Though it was cool how they brought all the ME2 squadmates back in ME3. Still need to finish it though, I don't know quite how the series ends and if I'm supposed to be mad or not.

[Edited on 01.07.2013 9:40 AM PST]

  • 01.07.2013 9:38 AM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.


Posted by: HipiO7
I wont say no as it is not a perfect game but somethings... just no.

We dont even know if the child on Earth is real. Nobody else but Shepard acknowledges his meer existence.


My point exactly. It's vague and has stirred up controversy because Casey Hudson WANTS controversy. This is not done for the sake of preserving the consistent thematic value of this series, it's just bloody shallow.

Also the whole evacuation scene was to add drama, nothing more. I dont know why you were so surprised, its happened hundreds of times in other series where whatever should have been blown out of the sky in miliseconds.

Plus the Normandy could possibly be invisible to Reaper scans...It has Reaper tech after all... It would explain why the Normandy can travel through Reaper controlled space and only be detected upon scanning.


Once again, exactly my point. The whole thing is so artificial and contrived for the sake of drama, rather than genuine emotion. The only times I felt genuinely affected emotionally was Mordin and Legion's respective deaths, the rest was absolutely laughable. The evac scene was simply to appease the odd fans who care more about their love interest rather than the integrity of the story - which is why this scene opens up so many plot holes.

The other times the Normandy appeared in the previous games (for instance, Therum in ME1) was because it was standing-by for the purpose of picking up Shepard. In ME3, it's in the middle of a space battle and manages to reach the beam in under 5 seconds. Even at FTL speeds this just makes no sense, it takes about 20 minutes for Harbinger to reach the beam after disengaging from the space battle.

So Harbinger, the oldest Reaper in existence, is fooled by an IFF signal? What about the Reapers that chase down the Normandy on the galaxy map just for scanning? Harbinger can clearly distinguish enemy forces because he blasts everyone running to the beam, so when the Normandy picks up the squadmates and he sees enemy forces heading into something that isn't even shaped like a Reaper, he's just going to sit there and watch it fly away... It's not like he couldn't spare a shot at it since we see him fire multiple lasers at the ground troops, but for some reason the Normandy is allowed to escape.

Contrivance. Contrivance everywhere...

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Halo 2 isn't dead jorge...... its just missing in action.
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Posted by: TedToaster22
Question before I start 3: Should I download Extended Cut ending first? Or playthrough then download? Any other (free) DLC?

Again, no spoilers please.

Download th extended cut.

  • 01.07.2013 9:40 AM PDT

Pass the controller bro


Posted by: Haloroach
GAME OF THE YEAR ALL YEARS

It's funny when you compare the credits of all the Mass Effect games, you'll notice Mass Effect 3 has only 25% of the original staff remaining. There's a comparison picture, I just can't find it right now.

And yes, their lead animator was also replaced as you probably would have guessed.

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I think the ending would have been better if the derelict reaper was somehow incorporated into the collector base instead of being a level in the middle of the game.

It would have made the end decision a lot harder because you would have the choice of destroying both the base and derelict reaper or keep them so Cerberus could use them.

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Posted by: Rider Luke
Paragade? Paragon.

Paragade is when you go down both sides but do Paragon more so.

  • 01.07.2013 12:33 PM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.


Posted by: xImNotProx
I think the ending would have been better if the derelict reaper was somehow incorporated into the collector base instead of being a level in the middle of the game.

It would have made the end decision a lot harder because you would have the choice of destroying both the base and derelict reaper or keep them so Cerberus could use them.


IMO instead of building a human Reaper, they could have been trying to resurrect it. The Collector Base would be the Reaper corpse, leaving it for Cerberus would be an interesting way for them to become indoctrinated in ME3. Instead of suddenly somehow getting a massive army, they would take the role of the Collectors by kidnapping people (like they did with Sanctuary) and indoctrinating them by taking them to the Reaper.

  • 01.07.2013 12:38 PM PDT

Halo: CE Anniversary Achievement Idea
C-C-C-CANNON BREAKER!
Let Sgt. Johnson die on Halo.

Mordin died on my first play through, but everyone survived the second time around. Make sure to keep your paragon points up there, so you can save everyone in the future.

  • 01.07.2013 12:40 PM PDT

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Oh god the first playthrough... I got f'ed by being to 50-50 with my alighnment and as a result both tali and miranda, and a few other crew members were not loyal... because I couldn't chose charm or intimidate because apparently you have to only do one or mostly one or you get screwed.....

Anyways Tali died in the vents, Miranda was making the bubble and she failed me, then Thane, whos loyalty I had kept got sucked away by the stupid swarmers... It was the most depressing ending... except Garus lived so it was k.

  • 01.07.2013 2:01 PM PDT

signatures are for fa- wait


Posted by: TedToaster22

Posted by: elsnben
Did you pick Jack to keep up the shield from the harvesters (forggeten their names, you the little collector's bugs) If you pick her to do that, without her loyalty then she dies.

Nope, I had Samara do that. Jack was with everyone else defending the door while Grunt, Zaeed and I went to destroy the base (which I ironically didn't end up doing).

She most likely died as you brought the 2 tanks along you.

Bring light members like Kasumi,Tali,Legion ect with you.

  • 01.07.2013 2:04 PM PDT

If then pen is mightier than the sword, then why do actions speak louder than words?

Most current thread - http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=76233031
Good for a laugh - http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=74028139

My first run I was a perfectionist and because of the ME1 save no one died. Then I did a fresh start with no ME1 preload and played how I would have acted in the situation. Only one that died was Miranda.

  • 01.07.2013 5:14 PM PDT

If then pen is mightier than the sword, then why do actions speak louder than words?

Most current thread - http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=76233031
Good for a laugh - http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=74028139

My third run I purposely tried to get Shepard killed.

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