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Subject: Exam boards changing results to fit their statistics.

Recon Number 54 -
If they are still looking, then while holding the snarl, I let drool start to drip from my mouth, I stand, curl my fingers into claws and with a hunched over crouch, I then make slow and deliberate steps towards them. When I get close enough, I let them hear my agonized and gasping growls and then, if they continue to stare, when I get within arm's reach? I kiss them on the nose, and run away giggling.

Now I don't know if this happens in the US but here in the UK the examination boards can and do change people's marks and boundaries to make sure their results have a certain number in each category 'X' Amount of A*s and 'Y' amount of Bs

It seems quite wrong that they do this, They should set the boundaries and then mark all exams fairly, not move some papers up and down a grade to make their statistics look how the government has said they are supposed to.

If anyone knows more about this please tell me, as it has been bothering me quite a lot lately.

They don't want too many people getting A grades so they shove the bottom of A into Upper B and this can be the difference between University places or Sixth form entry for some depending on the the qualification they are taking.

What is your opinion of this?

  • 01.07.2013 10:50 AM PDT
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I see nothing wrong with this.

  • 01.07.2013 10:53 AM PDT
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I do not want to stop asking. I do not ask to stop wanting.

Exam statistics changing boards to fit their results.

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It's a fairly common thing, it's for the same reason as lowering the passing grades or making tests easier, it makes the school look good.

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Now let's get down to business, I don't got no time to play around, what is this?

I hate the exam boards in this country.

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Posted by: DEATHPIMP72
Anyone but Foman. He smells like cheese.

I don't quite understand what you're saying. Are you saying that they grade the exams on a "curve"? This is quite common here in the US, and I think people have generally accepted it as a fact of education.

In some ways, yes it's unfair, but in other ways, it's very fair and serves as a good way to distinguish individual students.

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Posted by: Haloroach
Exam statistics changing boards to fit their results.
Exam results changing statistics to fit their boards.

  • 01.07.2013 10:55 AM PDT

I always thought, in the Uk at least, that the grade you get, is entirely dependant on what others get.

eg. Only X% can get A.

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Per Audacia Ad Astra

"Too menneh As and Bs! RAISE THE BOUNDARIES DAAAAAAHERP!"

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Posted by: Haloroach
Exam statistics changing boards to fit their results.
Exam results changing statistics to fit their boards.


Boards changing their results to fit exam statistics.

[Edited on 01.07.2013 11:04 AM PST]

  • 01.07.2013 10:57 AM PDT

The world is full of mysteries, and shares too few of the answers required. An example of which, is how did I end up in the Brute Zone?

This is a Gaussian Bell Curve.

It says that most people will fit into the middle etc etc.

The exam boards average every person onto this through statistical equations, and [u[that[/u] is how your grade boundaries are created. It is devised in a way that provides a middle mark that is fairly created among your peers according to accurate data. So if you got a D, you were below the average test score.

It makes sense when you think about it.

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Damn straight

I'm not 100% but I'm pretty sure it doesn't change for science exams.

It makes perfect sense, the test results must balance out year on year. You can't have one year were 40% of those who sat the test achieved A* and another year were only 5% achieved said grade. Not only would that ruin the profile of the top end grades it would also make one year seem very stupid and another seem very intelligent. Plus each test is written with a varying degree of difficulty and so if the grade boundary is constant then a lot of the exam will be centered on how lucky you are. The boundary is there to remove that factor of luck from exams, if the test is very easy then the boundary for each grade will be very high, if it's very difficult then the boundary will be very low.

I've known Maths papers were you could mess up 40% of the paper and still be awarded an A grade.

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Posted by: Haloroach
Posted by: AK 47625714
Posted by: Haloroach
Exam statistics changing boards to fit their results.

Exam results changing statistics to fit their boards.

Boards changing their results to fit exam statistics.

Statistics changing their boards to examine result fits.

  • 01.07.2013 11:07 AM PDT

http://i.imgur.com/fsISj.png

1) It makes perfect sense, the grades are supposed to show how good you are relative to the people you're up against.

2) If you're worried about it, you could always do what I do, i.e. get full marks for all your exams and thus not have to worry about grade boundaries.

  • 01.07.2013 11:09 AM PDT

Recon Number 54 -
If they are still looking, then while holding the snarl, I let drool start to drip from my mouth, I stand, curl my fingers into claws and with a hunched over crouch, I then make slow and deliberate steps towards them. When I get close enough, I let them hear my agonized and gasping growls and then, if they continue to stare, when I get within arm's reach? I kiss them on the nose, and run away giggling.


Posted by: Conster 110
This is a Gaussian Bell Curve.

It says that most people will fit into the middle etc etc.

The exam boards average every person onto this through statistical equations, and [u[that[/u] is how your grade boundaries are created. It is devised in a way that provides a middle mark that is fairly created among your peers according to accurate data. So if you got a D, you were below the average test score.

It makes sense when you think about it.


Ah, that does make a bit more sense than what my teacher had explained to me.

Thank you.

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  • 01.07.2013 11:11 AM PDT

Recon Number 54 -
If they are still looking, then while holding the snarl, I let drool start to drip from my mouth, I stand, curl my fingers into claws and with a hunched over crouch, I then make slow and deliberate steps towards them. When I get close enough, I let them hear my agonized and gasping growls and then, if they continue to stare, when I get within arm's reach? I kiss them on the nose, and run away giggling.


Posted by: x Foman123 x
I don't quite understand what you're saying. Are you saying that they grade the exams on a "curve"? This is quite common here in the US, and I think people have generally accepted it as a fact of education.

In some ways, yes it's unfair, but in other ways, it's very fair and serves as a good way to distinguish individual students.


Partially, The way it had been explained to me was that they mark all the papers then assign a certain amount of people to each Grade with those on the boundary of each shoved up or down a few marks.

There was quite an uproar when OFqual had told exam boards to change their marking to lower grades because of perceived grade inflation.

With that statistical curve pointed out and explained this makes a bit more sense as to what they do normally. Aside from recent events.

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It's very stupid how they keep changing the board in the UK. They've stopped counting coursework towards your final grade so everything you do in class is more or less irellivant now. Anything you get in the exams is all you'll have. I feel sorry for all the Years that're bellow me, I know a few who suffer from exam stress.

  • 01.07.2013 11:14 AM PDT

The world is full of mysteries, and shares too few of the answers required. An example of which, is how did I end up in the Brute Zone?


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Posted by: Conster 110
This is a Gaussian Bell Curve.

It says that most people will fit into the middle etc etc.

The exam boards average every person onto this through statistical equations, and [u[that[/u] is how your grade boundaries are created. It is devised in a way that provides a middle mark that is fairly created among your peers according to accurate data. So if you got a D, you were below the average test score.

It makes sense when you think about it.


Ah, that does make a bit more sense than what my teacher had explained to me.

Thank you.


The idea is that within each group of people taking the test, an even spread of results applied to the curve previously mentioned will show itself. Also, as a side note, naturally this is statistics, there can be changes from this curve, but the wider the sample, the closer the results should represent this curve.

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