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Subject: Why isnt Halo 4 as fun as Reach?


Posted by: Phoenix9508
Posted by: Cybil
You are the only person ive talked to who has negative opinions about Defiant, I was more than happy to buy it for Highlands alone, The firefight map which I forget the name of was lacking, Ill give you that, But the pack itself was beautiful to look at and worked amazingly for gameplay, Condemned specifically with its rocket spawn in a room with no gravity.
I'm not going to argue anecdotes with you. I will say that I would be surprised if it wasn't the worst selling Halo map pack since Heroic. Even people who played Reach throughout its lifespan could easily avoid purchasing it.

Just for you, I'm going to look it up. Mythic II sales and Anniversary Pack sales don't count because a majority simply bought the games that came with them.
To be fair, BSAngel gave it to me for free, So I havent the slightest idea of its actual sales, I just know the peak of my Reach fun was in Defiant

  • 01.07.2013 5:40 PM PDT

Posted by: Cybil

Posted by: Spirit of Ember
Posted by: Cybil

Posted by: Spirit of Ember
Aw, thanks Cybil.

Yo driver, can you take us to 665 Eagle View Circle, please?
*Driver bro*

Sure can but uhh... Isnt he a bit young to be drinking... And going home with other men?

Uh...He's not drunk, he's just tired, right Cybil?

*Laughs Nervously*

Plus, we're just friends...
Best friends!

*Driverbro*

...
Right...

Well you and your... Best friend, Stay out of trouble.

*5 minutes later*

Well here we are! Here's your money, sir.

Come on, Cybil.

  • 01.07.2013 5:41 PM PDT


Posted by: Spirit of Ember
*5 minutes later*

Well here we are! Here's your money, sir.

Come on, Cybil.
*Driverbro watches us walk off before driving away, A bit disturbed*

Time for Jacks, Ember?

  • 01.07.2013 5:42 PM PDT

The shadow on the wall.

Silent

I called that this would happen months ago.

I said it. "Once Halo 4 is released, everyone will go back and talk about how much better reach was."

You people are laughably predictable.

  • 01.07.2013 5:43 PM PDT

Posted by: Cybil

Posted by: Spirit of Ember
*5 minutes later*

Well here we are! Here's your money, sir.

Come on, Cybil.
*Driverbro watches us walk off before driving away, A bit disturbed*

Time for Jacks, Ember?

You bet!

*Opens door for Cybil*

  • 01.07.2013 5:44 PM PDT


Posted by: Spirit of Ember
Posted by: Cybil

Posted by: Spirit of Ember
*5 minutes later*

Well here we are! Here's your money, sir.

Come on, Cybil.
*Driverbro watches us walk off before driving away, A bit disturbed*

Time for Jacks, Ember?

You bet!

*Opens door for Cybil*
*Steps into the dark room and plops down on the couch*
*pomf*

Maybe we can play some Legos after.

  • 01.07.2013 5:45 PM PDT

Posted by: Cybil

Posted by: Spirit of Ember
Posted by: Cybil

Posted by: Spirit of Ember
*5 minutes later*

Well here we are! Here's your money, sir.

Come on, Cybil.
*Driverbro watches us walk off before driving away, A bit disturbed*

Time for Jacks, Ember?

You bet!

*Opens door for Cybil*
*Steps into the dark room and plops down on the couch*
*pomf*

Maybe we can play some Legos after.

I have an entire tub of Legos from when I was a kid that I keep in the closet.

  • 01.07.2013 5:46 PM PDT

Aspiring filmmaker

reach sucked too. Halo 3 was much more fun, imo

  • 01.07.2013 5:47 PM PDT

Posted by: SilentA98
I called that this would happen months ago.

I said it. "Once Halo 4 is released, everyone will go back and talk about how much better reach was."

You people are laughably predictable.

I remember tons of posts about how Grey World sucked. And now apparently "Reach's forge wasn't so bad" *sigh*

IMO Forge is lackluster and we should be able to change the geometry of the terrain and add climate effects.

  • 01.07.2013 5:47 PM PDT

Dear tomorrow, Find some sensibility, Respond to emotion.
Dear Politician, Define sagacity,
All chances of survival are beginning to diminish.
Comedy is no excuse for our own blasphemies.
Mass media, Mass pessimism, Mass Denial.
My television tells me to panic, but I don't think I'll listen.
The apathetic force us to persevere, with their backwards priorities.

Loving all Halo games master race.

  • 01.07.2013 5:47 PM PDT

Posted by: Spirit of Ember
Posted by: Cybil

Posted by: Spirit of Ember
Posted by: Cybil

Posted by: Spirit of Ember
*5 minutes later*

Well here we are! Here's your money, sir.

Come on, Cybil.
*Driverbro watches us walk off before driving away, A bit disturbed*

Time for Jacks, Ember?

You bet!

*Opens door for Cybil*
*Steps into the dark room and plops down on the couch*
*pomf*

Maybe we can play some Legos after.

I have an entire tub of Legos from when I was a kid that I keep in the closet.

Shall I bring it out?

  • 01.07.2013 5:51 PM PDT


Posted by: Spirit of Ember
Posted by: Cybil

Posted by: Spirit of Ember
Posted by: Cybil

Posted by: Spirit of Ember
*5 minutes later*

Well here we are! Here's your money, sir.

Come on, Cybil.
*Driverbro watches us walk off before driving away, A bit disturbed*

Time for Jacks, Ember?

You bet!

*Opens door for Cybil*
*Steps into the dark room and plops down on the couch*
*pomf*

Maybe we can play some Legos after.

I have an entire tub of Legos from when I was a kid that I keep in the closet.
Well I know what im doing tonight!

  • 01.07.2013 5:51 PM PDT

Posted by: Cybil
Well I know what im doing tonight!

Great!

...Are we still playing Jacks?

  • 01.07.2013 5:53 PM PDT


Posted by: Spirit of Ember
Posted by: Cybil
Well I know what im doing tonight!

Great!

...Are we still playing Jacks?
We can do whatever you want Ember, Its your house

  • 01.07.2013 5:54 PM PDT

Pure Insanity
The point of war is not to die for one's clan, but it's to make the other bastard die for his
Right before you die, there is always a chance to save yourself, sieze that chance and live to fight another day
The best way to kill someone is to fight them with the same weapons they use and make them know you are better than them, not because of superior weaponry, but because of superior skill.
Hidden in the shadows, Clothed in camo, Armed to the teeth. Hunting.

It's all opinion. We can't tell you what you don't like about it.

  • 01.07.2013 5:54 PM PDT

Posted by: Cybil

Posted by: Spirit of Ember
Posted by: Cybil
Well I know what im doing tonight!

Great!

...Are we still playing Jacks?
We can do whatever you want Ember, Its your house

All right.

*Gets up and walks into closet*

*Comes out a minute later with a dusty box of of Jacks*

Let's start!

[Edited on 01.07.2013 5:56 PM PST]

  • 01.07.2013 5:55 PM PDT

I think you must be on drugs to think that Reach's multiplayer was better than 4's. Reach was borderline unplayable with how slow the pace of the game was.

  • 01.07.2013 5:57 PM PDT


Posted by: Spirit of Ember
Posted by: Cybil

Posted by: Spirit of Ember
Posted by: Cybil
Well I know what im doing tonight!

Great!

...Are we still playing Jacks?
We can do whatever you want Ember, Its your house

All right.

*Gets up and walks into closet*

*Comes out a minute later with a dusty box of of Jacks*

Let's start!
...Ember what would you say if I told you I dont know how to play Jacks?

*Lays down a bit sadly on the couch*

It just sounded like a good idea at the time :c

  • 01.07.2013 5:57 PM PDT

The shadow on the wall.

Silent


Posted by: Dreadnough7
Posted by: SilentA98
I called that this would happen months ago.

I said it. "Once Halo 4 is released, everyone will go back and talk about how much better reach was."

You people are laughably predictable.

I remember tons of posts about how Grey World sucked. And now apparently "Reach's forge wasn't so bad" *sigh*

IMO Forge is lackluster and we should be able to change the geometry of the terrain and add climate effects.


That'd be pretty great. I can wait for that at the moment though.

Honestly, I'm just happy we have good looking blocks and ways to manipulate gravity.

  • 01.07.2013 5:57 PM PDT

Be sure to tell everyone how cool you are. If you don't tell them, they won't know.

I agree with the better than H3 part.

I think Reach was the most solid overall game. Granted, I only played Objective and I think they had that balanced pretty well. Can't speak for the rest of the playlists.

H4 is frustrating simply because it is different, I think. I mean, at its core its the same game, save for a few small additions. Small additions however, make the aforementioned "same game" have even more possibilites. Perhaps it''s just because we aren't used to H4 yet, but, I think in time it will prove to be fun. It took me awhile to get hooked on Reach, but I happened to play it the whole 2 year life cycle it had.

H4 has only been out like what, 2 months?

  • 01.07.2013 5:58 PM PDT

Halo 4 is missing that teamwork element, especially in BTB. It used to be a rush for the power weapons and a struggle for map control. Now, power weapons spawn every where and when you rack up enough points you and the enemy get power weapons that destroy a sense of tactics. I'm not saying that everyone did this in Reach, but team-oriented groups do it all the time.

Halo 4 is more individual oriented.

  • 01.07.2013 5:59 PM PDT

Posted by: Cybil
...Ember what would you say if I told you I dont know how to play Jacks?

*Lays down a bit sadly on the couch*

It just sounded like a good idea at the time :c

Oh, Cybil....That's okay.

*Drops Box*

*Walks back into closet*

*Walks out with Lego tub*

'Cuz who needs Jacks when you got Legos?

  • 01.07.2013 6:01 PM PDT

So you went to the trouble of clicking on my profile, either to send a group invite or hate message, or to check my Halo stats and call me a BK. I like Peanut Butter Waffles.


Posted by: IslocStarkiller
Loving all Halo games master race.

  • 01.07.2013 6:01 PM PDT
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For me it's the objectives. Even though i didn't care for most of the features or maps, and absolutly hated the DMR, I still had fun conjuring up strategies and doing what i could to win when it was an objective game.

But in halo 4 they took out a lot of great gametypes replacing them with a few decent gametypes, plus the map designs are nearly all designed specifically for slayer, several maps are almost painful to play ctf on for anyone who cares about winning. The whole game is just centered around individual focused slayer which is just boring and repetitive to me.

Which is a shame since Halo 4's balancing and sandbox are probably the best in the series, save for not having a falcon.

[Edited on 01.07.2013 6:02 PM PST]

  • 01.07.2013 6:01 PM PDT

On the multiplayer front?

-Maps
-Gametypes
-Spawning with precision rifles
-DMR
-Boltshot
-Customizable loadouts in general
-Ordnance
-Weapon drops on map
-Sprint

  • 01.07.2013 6:04 PM PDT