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Subject: Electronic music is harder to create than acoustic music

Stop arguing over imaginary -blam!-. May as well argue over Santa Claus. There will never be proof that there is/was a god - and before people start saying "HERP DERP PROVE THERE WASN'T ONE ROFLOLOL" well, you are the people who made it up in the first place so we know there isn't one
What created the big bang then? A coalition of genetically modified TR-909s with extra distortion?

I care about what sounds good, complexity be damned.

Posted by: EMPeace
You use a computer to make screeching noises.
Look at all of those computers.

  • 01.07.2013 8:25 PM PDT

I'm not a big fan of making generalizations about things like this (for one, because I don't know that much about either method). I couldn't tell you if one method is harder than the other or not.

  • 01.07.2013 8:29 PM PDT

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It depends on the genre of electronic music. For instance, I find it hard to see the difficulty in creating remixes, once you've been familiarized with the program you're using.

The way I see it, Electronic music has the same difficulties in theory as acoustic music does, but it doesn't include the actual barrier of physically playing the music.

It's having a level of innate physical ability. Sure with enough practice, anyone can play an instrument, but it'd be much easier to make beats and rhythms with your mouse and keyboard than it would be to play the drums or to strum your guitar.

  • 01.07.2013 8:43 PM PDT


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Posted by: Chipax3d
But, a dubstep/house/electronic album can never be the best album ever created.
That's a pretty bold statement.

And is "best album ever created" even a thing? Since music is an art form, I don't think it is, since its purely subjective.


No i'm fairly certain it is. Look on any top (insert number) albums of all time list, and find me one electronic album in the top 10. Maybe groundbreaking albums like Daft Punk's discovery, but that's a special case because of the long lasting impact it had on the electronic scene. There's no argument for electronic music when talking about the objectively best album or song.
Again, sine when does popularity really mean anything? I mean obviously it means a lot of people like that artist/band, but what does that really mean?

You cant say it's unbiased point because it's based of many people's opinions and not just your own. For me, I and Love and You will forever be the greatest album ever. That's because it impacted me more than any other album likely ever will. Hell, it impacted more than most people ever will. But most people are going to disagree with me. If you look at the top albums on iTunes right now, Les Mis is the most popular. Does that mean it's a better album than IaLaY? Hardly. That just means it's currently in style for people to buy it.


I see what your saying about personal preference, but you really need to realize that popularity is very very important to greatness. I'd love to have the 3edgy5you state of mind and think that Radiohead's In Rainbows is the best album ever (which arguably it is) because of how much i liked and how much it impacted me but let's be real here. Even though Radiohead is a fairly popular band, they'll never be as recognized as they should be. For example, Michael Jackson was a fabulous artist, but what made him the musical god he is today was his ability to make music and videos that were approachable and likable by everyone.

  • 01.07.2013 8:44 PM PDT

Both need to under how music must flow, only one requires the actual skill to pull off that flow.

[Edited on 01.07.2013 8:46 PM PST]

  • 01.07.2013 8:45 PM PDT

Coming from someone who produces EDM and knows how to play an "acoustic". EDM shares the same theories and chord progressions as piano, for the most part, so in that sense it is like learning "acoustic". Not to mention that instead of being restricted to one instrument, you utilize dozens of them. Another thing to add making it that much harder than "acoustics" is EQ'ing, layering, etc. You also make your sounds from scratch, unless you're a preset kiddie.

I think it is in fact harder.

This doesn't take skill?

This is only a small portion of what goes into electronic.

[Edited on 01.07.2013 9:07 PM PST]

  • 01.07.2013 8:48 PM PDT

Stop arguing over imaginary -blam!-. May as well argue over Santa Claus. There will never be proof that there is/was a god - and before people start saying "HERP DERP PROVE THERE WASN'T ONE ROFLOLOL" well, you are the people who made it up in the first place so we know there isn't one
What created the big bang then? A coalition of genetically modified TR-909s with extra distortion?

Posted by: AgentCOP1
Also, in a lot of electronic music, there aren't very many lyrics, and the lyrics that are in it are just simple words or phrases. It's not saying anything. The best examples of where acoustic does infinitely better in lyrics is "The Sound of Silence" by Simon and Garfunkle, and "Hotel California" by The Eagles. If you really take the time to dissect what they're saying in those songs, it really hits you deep and makes you think. With electronic, there's hardly any thinking involved. It's just mindless listening. It's not evoking thought.
Any song which doesn't have lyrics is just mindless garbage? Holy -blam!-, are you serious?

  • 01.07.2013 8:56 PM PDT

Posted by: SQWABYSQWAB
Posted by: AgentCOP1
Also, in a lot of electronic music, there aren't very many lyrics, and the lyrics that are in it are just simple words or phrases. It's not saying anything. The best examples of where acoustic does infinitely better in lyrics is "The Sound of Silence" by Simon and Garfunkle, and "Hotel California" by The Eagles. If you really take the time to dissect what they're saying in those songs, it really hits you deep and makes you think. With electronic, there's hardly any thinking involved. It's just mindless listening. It's not evoking thought.
Any song which doesn't have lyrics is just mindless garbage? Holy -blam!-, are you serious?

I hope he knows that music alone without words can resonate you more than a song with words. Instrumentals are better sometimes.

[Edited on 01.07.2013 8:59 PM PST]

  • 01.07.2013 8:58 PM PDT

To become a famous electro artists, I'd say you'd have to spend a few years with your set up.

To become a famous guitarist... You need to play the -blam!- out of the thing for a good chuck of your life. A decade perhaps? Oh and talent helps as well.

  • 01.07.2013 9:13 PM PDT

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Posted by: Miz KillZone
Another thing to add making it that much harder than "acoustics" is EQ'ing, layering, etc. You also make your sounds from scratch, unless you're a preset kiddie.
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When in all actuality...

  • 01.07.2013 9:14 PM PDT


Posted by: I3 O O lVI E R
Posted by: SQWABYSQWAB
Posted by: AgentCOP1
Also, in a lot of electronic music, there aren't very many lyrics, and the lyrics that are in it are just simple words or phrases. It's not saying anything. The best examples of where acoustic does infinitely better in lyrics is "The Sound of Silence" by Simon and Garfunkle, and "Hotel California" by The Eagles. If you really take the time to dissect what they're saying in those songs, it really hits you deep and makes you think. With electronic, there's hardly any thinking involved. It's just mindless listening. It's not evoking thought.
Any song which doesn't have lyrics is just mindless garbage? Holy -blam!-, are you serious?

I hope he knows that music alone without words can resonate you more than a song with words. Instrumentals are better sometimes.
Trailer music is also pretty epic.

However in this case he is talking about electro music.

  • 01.07.2013 9:14 PM PDT

Posted by: Spartan1995324
To become a famous electro artists, I'd say you'd have to spend a few years with your set up.

To become a famous guitarist... You need to play the -blam!- out of the thing for a good chuck of your life. A decade perhaps? Oh and talent helps as well.

Doesn't matter how amazing you are. Yes, you have to be good at what it is you do. It depends on what the label is looking for. You're the product. You make them money.

  • 01.07.2013 9:15 PM PDT

Posted by: Spartan1995324

Posted by: I3 O O lVI E R
Posted by: SQWABYSQWAB
Posted by: AgentCOP1
Also, in a lot of electronic music, there aren't very many lyrics, and the lyrics that are in it are just simple words or phrases. It's not saying anything. The best examples of where acoustic does infinitely better in lyrics is "The Sound of Silence" by Simon and Garfunkle, and "Hotel California" by The Eagles. If you really take the time to dissect what they're saying in those songs, it really hits you deep and makes you think. With electronic, there's hardly any thinking involved. It's just mindless listening. It's not evoking thought.
Any song which doesn't have lyrics is just mindless garbage? Holy -blam!-, are you serious?

I hope he knows that music alone without words can resonate you more than a song with words. Instrumentals are better sometimes.
Trailer music is also pretty epic.

However in this case he is talking about electro music.

Here's vocals. Dubstep, however. There's some lyrics for you, brah.

  • 01.07.2013 9:19 PM PDT


Posted by: I3 O O lVI E R
Posted by: Spartan1995324
To become a famous electro artists, I'd say you'd have to spend a few years with your set up.

To become a famous guitarist... You need to play the -blam!- out of the thing for a good chuck of your life. A decade perhaps? Oh and talent helps as well.

Doesn't matter how amazing you are. Yes, you have to be good at what it is you do. It depends on what the label is looking for. You're the product. You make them money.
Yeah I know. They look for what's "in".

  • 01.07.2013 9:20 PM PDT

Posted by: Spartan1995324

Posted by: I3 O O lVI E R
Posted by: Spartan1995324
To become a famous electro artists, I'd say you'd have to spend a few years with your set up.

To become a famous guitarist... You need to play the -blam!- out of the thing for a good chuck of your life. A decade perhaps? Oh and talent helps as well.

Doesn't matter how amazing you are. Yes, you have to be good at what it is you do. It depends on what the label is looking for. You're the product. You make them money.
Yeah I know. They look for what's "in".

Or they create it.

  • 01.07.2013 9:20 PM PDT


Posted by: I3 O O lVI E R
Posted by: Spartan1995324

Posted by: I3 O O lVI E R
Posted by: SQWABYSQWAB
Posted by: AgentCOP1
Also, in a lot of electronic music, there aren't very many lyrics, and the lyrics that are in it are just simple words or phrases. It's not saying anything. The best examples of where acoustic does infinitely better in lyrics is "The Sound of Silence" by Simon and Garfunkle, and "Hotel California" by The Eagles. If you really take the time to dissect what they're saying in those songs, it really hits you deep and makes you think. With electronic, there's hardly any thinking involved. It's just mindless listening. It's not evoking thought.
Any song which doesn't have lyrics is just mindless garbage? Holy -blam!-, are you serious?

I hope he knows that music alone without words can resonate you more than a song with words. Instrumentals are better sometimes.
Trailer music is also pretty epic.

However in this case he is talking about electro music.

Here's vocals. Dubstep, however. There's some lyrics for you, brah.
Never liked much Dubstep (I gave it a chance, a fair one), but I'll take your word for it and assume the lyrics are good.

  • 01.07.2013 9:21 PM PDT

Posted by: TyphIosion
I haven't seen him post in forever.

I'm gonna lose to a lurker.

My roommate is a pianist and we were talking about this once actually. He was saying that electronic music can be very complicated to make because there is so much layering involved.

  • 01.07.2013 9:22 PM PDT


Posted by: I3 O O lVI E R
Posted by: Spartan1995324

Posted by: I3 O O lVI E R
Posted by: Spartan1995324
To become a famous electro artists, I'd say you'd have to spend a few years with your set up.

To become a famous guitarist... You need to play the -blam!- out of the thing for a good chuck of your life. A decade perhaps? Oh and talent helps as well.

Doesn't matter how amazing you are. Yes, you have to be good at what it is you do. It depends on what the label is looking for. You're the product. You make them money.
Yeah I know. They look for what's "in".

Or they create it.
By create you mean "pushing" it onto people? I suppose. The companies that is.

  • 01.07.2013 9:22 PM PDT

Posted by: Spartan1995324
Never liked much Dubstep (I gave it a chance, a fair one), but I'll take your word for it and assume the lyrics are good.

I enjoy the music. Dubstep is something to have a good time with. I wish people would drop their elitist bull-blam!- and just have some fun. And stop acting like a critic.

  • 01.07.2013 9:23 PM PDT

No, I compose electronic/dubstep and though I have a lot of fun. It doesn't seem very hard to compose since I'm not bound to a set amount of instruments with restricted octaves. When it comes to composing music for instruments you have to figure in an instruments limitations and you also have to figure out what is playable by the majority of musicians and what isn't. Basically there are more variables in making acoustic music than there is electronic. Though I enjoy making music for both and at times combining the two forms to get interesting new sounds.

[Edited on 01.07.2013 9:27 PM PST]

  • 01.07.2013 9:25 PM PDT


Posted by: I3 O O lVI E R
Posted by: Spartan1995324
Never liked much Dubstep (I gave it a chance, a fair one), but I'll take your word for it and assume the lyrics are good.

I enjoy the music. Dubstep is something to have a good time with. I wish people would drop their elitist bull-blam!- and just have some fun. And stop acting like a critic.
...If you were offended in some way, I'm sorry but I simply don't like the same music you do.

It's called preference. To each his own? I never said Dubstep was BAD, I just said I didn't like it. Easy dude.

  • 01.07.2013 9:26 PM PDT

Posted by: Spartan1995324
By create you mean "pushing" it onto people? I suppose. The companies that is.

It's a psychological thing. The mainstream world is forced upon our brains and many are brainwashed to "what's good". Like Lil Wayne for example. Gets tons of radio play so that's telling a lot of people, "Wow, he must be good being number one on the billboard charts". It's called marketing. That's the strategy of being famous. You can be absolute -blam!- like Lil Wayne, but he marketed himself flawlessly.

  • 01.07.2013 9:26 PM PDT

Posted by: Spartan1995324

Posted by: I3 O O lVI E R
Posted by: Spartan1995324
Never liked much Dubstep (I gave it a chance, a fair one), but I'll take your word for it and assume the lyrics are good.

I enjoy the music. Dubstep is something to have a good time with. I wish people would drop their elitist bull-blam!- and just have some fun. And stop acting like a critic.
...If you were offended in some way, I'm sorry but I simply don't like the same music you do.

It's called preference. To each his own? I never said Dubstep was BAD, I just said I didn't like it. Easy dude.

OH, no. That wasn't directed towards you. Everyone's prefrence is different. I don't like it when people insinuate something is terrible when no one has even given it a try.

Wasn't directed towards you.*

[Edited on 01.07.2013 9:27 PM PST]

  • 01.07.2013 9:27 PM PDT


Posted by: I3 O O lVI E R
Posted by: Spartan1995324
By create you mean "pushing" it onto people? I suppose. The companies that is.

It's a psychological thing. The mainstream world is forced upon our brains and many are brainwashed to "what's good". Like Lil Wayne for example. Gets tons of radio play so that's telling a lot of people, "Wow, he must be good being number one on the billboard charts". It's called marketing. That's the strategy of being famous. You can be absolute -blam!- like Lil Wayne, but he marketed himself flawlessly.
Perfectly worded sir.

  • 01.07.2013 9:27 PM PDT

I know what's up.

  • 01.07.2013 9:33 PM PDT

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