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Subject: If you think the DMR is gamebreaking, you're wrong.

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The DMR is only marginally better than its other rifle counterparts.

The Light Rifle beats it at long range, and the Carbine and BR beat it at close range.

It does however have the advantage in a larger range of ranges (lol) than the other three, however this difference is not a huge one.

In short the DMR is a better choice because it is more useful at all ranges than any other weapon, this is recognized by the more skilled players which is why it seems game breaking.

It could perhaps use a minuscule nerf, but thats debatable.

Edit: Two things that the DMR has that are kinda dumb: Huge projectile size, the bullet can miss and still kill, and too much auto aim. If these were fixed everything would be fine.

[Edited on 01.07.2013 6:20 PM PST]

  • 01.07.2013 6:15 PM PDT

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DMR is OP

  • 01.07.2013 6:15 PM PDT
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I swear that I'm unable to beat the DMR with the Carbine, at all, unless the enemy misses some shots.

The DMR is impossible to beat if they hit all, or miss just one.

I use the Carbine.


I only used the DMR for my first few days of playing and it's still listed as my favorite weapon, which it is not. I don't care. I don't like the game that much anyway.

[Edited on 01.07.2013 6:17 PM PST]

  • 01.07.2013 6:16 PM PDT

I was unaware that this was the Halo 4 forum.

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Posted by: InClusions
I swear that I'm unable to beat the DMR with the Carbine, at all, unless the enemy misses some shots.

The DMR is impossible to beat if they hit all, or miss just one.

I use the Carbine.


Carbine actually has a faster kill time, it does take more skill though.

  • 01.07.2013 6:17 PM PDT

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I can out-gun someone easy at close range with a DMR.

I would use the BR more if it also had the 3x scope.

I like the Carbine for FFA, It just feels right for some reason.

I hate the Light Rifle.

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  • 01.07.2013 6:17 PM PDT


Posted by: Makko Mace
The DMR is only marginally better than its other rifle counterparts.

The Light Rifle beats it at long range, and the Carbine and BR beat it at close range.

It does however have the advantage in a larger range of ranges (lol) than the other three, however this difference is not a huge one.

In short the DMR is a better choice because it is more useful at all ranges than any other weapon, this is recognized by the more skilled players which is why it seems game breaking.

It could perhaps use a minuscule nerf, but thats debatable.
Halo has always been against utility weapons.

  • 01.07.2013 6:17 PM PDT

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I prefer BR anyway.

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Posted by: Makko Mace

Posted by: InClusions
I swear that I'm unable to beat the DMR with the Carbine, at all, unless the enemy misses some shots.

The DMR is impossible to beat if they hit all, or miss just one.

I use the Carbine.


Carbine actually has a faster kill time, it does take more skill though.


I just know that the same guy killed my 3 times straight today, back to back, using the DMR. I couldn't beat him, and I'm a veteran Halo player. I'll be honest, when I used the DMR, I was unstoppable.

  • 01.07.2013 6:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: InClusions

Posted by: Makko Mace

Posted by: InClusions
I swear that I'm unable to beat the DMR with the Carbine, at all, unless the enemy misses some shots.

The DMR is impossible to beat if they hit all, or miss just one.

I use the Carbine.


Carbine actually has a faster kill time, it does take more skill though.


I just know that the same guy killed my 3 times straight today, back to back, using the DMR. I couldn't beat him, and I'm a veteran Halo player. I'll be honest, when I used the DMR, I was unstoppable.


The DMR has more autoaim than it should, the carbine has less, they really just need to bring them into line.

  • 01.07.2013 6:19 PM PDT
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The DMR is OP.

  • 01.07.2013 6:19 PM PDT

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I'm good with a dmr, which is the exact reason I don't use it.

I prefer to get up close and dirty, and if they are out of the range of my Carbine/BR, then I need to get closer.

DMR feels too easy to get kills with, and I prefer to challenge myself as opposed to have kills handed to me.

I don't like cross mapping people constant, and aside from BTB maps, and or ragnorak, I simply use my BR/Carbine.

  • 01.07.2013 6:20 PM PDT

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DMR is OP

  • 01.07.2013 6:20 PM PDT

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It has a ton of aim-assist now that I'm not a fan of, I played Reach and was completely thrown off how much harder it was to aim that gun. I think if the guns going to be that all-round useful, it could do with being a bit trickier to shoot than the others.

  • 01.07.2013 6:20 PM PDT

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Damn straight. I've net more kills with the Lightrifle and Carbine than the DMR.

  • 01.07.2013 6:21 PM PDT


Posted by: Makko Mace

Posted by: InClusions
I swear that I'm unable to beat the DMR with the Carbine, at all, unless the enemy misses some shots.

The DMR is impossible to beat if they hit all, or miss just one.

I use the Carbine.


Carbine actually has a faster kill time, it does take more skill though.
No it doesn't. Look on the tens of videos on youtube proving this.

  • 01.07.2013 6:21 PM PDT


Posted by: InClusions
I swear that I'm unable to beat the DMR with the Carbine, at all, unless the enemy misses some shots.

The DMR is impossible to beat if they hit all, or miss just one.

I use the Carbine.


I only used the DMR for my first few days of playing and it's still listed as my favorite weapon, which it is not. I don't care. I don't like the game that much anyway.
funny, I can kill people fine with the carbine, and the storm rife, even when the DMR get's the first shot... you know why?


because I know how to actually maneuver around maps and evade shots.

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Posted by: Makko Mace


The DMR has more autoaim than it should, the carbine has less, they really just need to bring them into line.


I kind of realized that the DMR was easier to use but I didn't pay it any attention until now, now that you've said it.

  • 01.07.2013 6:22 PM PDT

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Posted by: Makko Mace

Posted by: InClusions
I swear that I'm unable to beat the DMR with the Carbine, at all, unless the enemy misses some shots.

The DMR is impossible to beat if they hit all, or miss just one.

I use the Carbine.


Carbine actually has a faster kill time, it does take more skill though.
No it doesn't. Look on the tens of videos on youtube proving this.


I've seen about three videos and an exaustive spread sheet that all say it kills faster...

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Posted by: InClusions
I swear that I'm unable to beat the DMR with the Carbine, at all, unless the enemy misses some shots.

The DMR is impossible to beat if they hit all, or miss just one.

I use the Carbine.


I only used the DMR for my first few days of playing and it's still listed as my favorite weapon, which it is not. I don't care. I don't like the game that much anyway.
funny, I can kill people fine with the carbine, and the storm rife, even when the DMR get's the first shot... you know why?


because I know how to actually maneuver around maps and evade shots.


Funny, my kills out weigh my deaths twofold.

You know why? Cause I've been playing halo in the MLG playlist since Halo 3.

  • 01.07.2013 6:23 PM PDT


Posted by: Makko Mace

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Posted by: Makko Mace

Posted by: InClusions
I swear that I'm unable to beat the DMR with the Carbine, at all, unless the enemy misses some shots.

The DMR is impossible to beat if they hit all, or miss just one.

I use the Carbine.


Carbine actually has a faster kill time, it does take more skill though.
No it doesn't. Look on the tens of videos on youtube proving this.


I've seen about three videos and an exaustive spread sheet that all say it kills faster...
*Facepalm*

Okay, I want you to go to Halo 4, use 2 of your controllers on Forge, and I'm willing to bet you money that the DMR will win every time. I've did is many times before, and The 3 Legged Goat do it before the game even came out. Don't go to spread sheets, they are inaccurate, I learned that the hard way.

  • 01.07.2013 6:25 PM PDT

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Posted by: Makko Mace

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Posted by: Makko Mace

Posted by: InClusions
I swear that I'm unable to beat the DMR with the Carbine, at all, unless the enemy misses some shots.

The DMR is impossible to beat if they hit all, or miss just one.

I use the Carbine.


Carbine actually has a faster kill time, it does take more skill though.
No it doesn't. Look on the tens of videos on youtube proving this.


I've seen about three videos and an exaustive spread sheet that all say it kills faster...
*Facepalm*

Okay, I want you to go to Halo 4, use 2 of your controllers on Forge, and I'm willing to bet you money that the DMR will win every time. I've did is many times before, and The 3 Legged Goat do it before the game even came out. Don't go to spread sheets, they are inaccurate, I learned that the hard way.


I mean you could post a video or something..

I'm not going to go test this out, besides without a capture card to measure frames its not going to be very easy to measure tenths of a second.

  • 01.07.2013 6:27 PM PDT


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DMR is OP

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DMR is OP

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DMR is OP

  • 01.07.2013 6:28 PM PDT

@Makko.

Just aim 2 players at each other than spam the triggers. Very simple. DMR wins every single time.

  • 01.07.2013 6:28 PM PDT

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