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Subject: Grammar Debate! "Are" or "Is"?

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So I hear people say things two different ways. When referring to a company or organization, some people use the verb "are", some "is".

For example:
Bungie ARE being very secretive about Destiny.

OR

Bungie IS being very secretive about Destiny.

I know there are multiple people, but the outfit is singular.
So which is it?

  • 01.08.2013 8:28 AM PDT

I always used Is. It sounds too weird when you use Are, and if you think about it, most the time you are personifying the company as a singular entity.

  • 01.08.2013 8:29 AM PDT

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'IS' is correct.

I'm also annoyed by the misuse of the 'there' words.

  • 01.08.2013 8:29 AM PDT

The company is singular - you are not talking about multiple companies. The correct sentence would be Bungie IS....

  • 01.08.2013 8:30 AM PDT
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A company is a singular entity.

You can think of it like when you refer to say, worker's unions as well - you would say "The union is" not "The union are".

[Edited on 01.08.2013 8:32 AM PST]

  • 01.08.2013 8:31 AM PDT

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  • 01.08.2013 8:31 AM PDT

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A company is a singular entity.
This.

For whatever reason, our friends across the pond seem to have forgotten that, you'll seen them preferring "are" over "is".

  • 01.08.2013 8:32 AM PDT


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'IS' is correct.

I'm also annoyed by the misuse of the 'there' words.


Their is no need to get angry about it.

OT: "is". Using "are" sounds weird.

  • 01.08.2013 8:34 AM PDT
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Posted by: RighteousTyrant
For whatever reason, our friends across the pond seem to have forgotten that, you'll seen them preferring "are" over "is".


No you won't. No more so than you see Yanks doing it.

OT - It's "is" as there's only one Bungie.

  • 01.08.2013 8:34 AM PDT

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It all depends on whether you are referring to Bungie as a group of people or a company.

No debate here.

  • 01.08.2013 8:35 AM PDT

My troll sense is tingling.

A company is a singular entity, therefore "is" is correct.

I know other people have already said it, I just felt like typing it down myself as a personal reminder to not make that mistake.

  • 01.08.2013 8:36 AM PDT

"You can't touch music, but music can touch you."

I'd use is because this is a singular noun.
Bungie IS awesome
For multiple nouns I'd use are
Bioware and Bethesda ARE my favorite developers.

[Edited on 01.08.2013 8:38 AM PST]

  • 01.08.2013 8:38 AM PDT

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Posted by: RighteousTyrant
For whatever reason, our friends across the pond seem to have forgotten that, you'll seen them preferring "are" over "is".


No you won't. No more so than you see Yanks doing it.

OT - It's "is" as there's only one Bungie.
Pretty sure I notice more Brits doing it than Americans, but maybe I'm just seeing what I want to see.

  • 01.08.2013 8:38 AM PDT

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You is too buddy. Is you normally this intelligent?

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  • 01.08.2013 8:40 AM PDT
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Posted by: RighteousTyrant
Posted by: Ason Unique
Posted by: RighteousTyrant
For whatever reason, our friends across the pond seem to have forgotten that, you'll seen them preferring "are" over "is".


No you won't. No more so than you see Yanks doing it.

OT - It's "is" as there's only one Bungie.
Pretty sure I notice more Brits doing it than Americans, but maybe I'm just seeing what I want to see.
How do you know if a talking breast is English or American then?

  • 01.08.2013 8:40 AM PDT

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Depends on the country. In UK English are and is can both be used for a collective noun like a company name.

If you are talking about Bungie in a way like your examples, then both work. If you are talking about Bungie like "Bungie is a game company" then you wouldn't use are because you are using Bungie like a singular noun only referring to the company, not all of the employees.

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Posted by: RighteousTyrant
Pretty sure I notice more Brits doing it than Americans, but maybe I'm just seeing what I want to see.


Possibly.

For some reason I always assume that people who confuse "then" and "than" are American and I put it down to them sounding almost identical when spoken with a Southern drawl.

  • 01.08.2013 8:42 AM PDT

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It really depends on the subject and what is being refferred to.
" The British are coming" sounds better to ne than ' the British is coming".

Conversely, " The Texas rangers are going to win the Division' sounds better than ' the Texas rangers is going to win the division".

  • 01.08.2013 8:43 AM PDT

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How do you know if a talking breast is English or American then?
Talking breast? I'm confused.

I know some users are British and some American per their having said so, if that's what you're asking . . .


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Posted by: RighteousTyrant
Pretty sure I notice more Brits doing it than Americans, but maybe I'm just seeing what I want to see.


Possibly.

For some reason I always assume that people who confuse "then" and "than" are American and I put it down to them sounding almost identical when spoken with a Southern drawl.
Nope, yankees are just as guilty of this as southerners. "Y'all" is a much better red flag for a southerner, IMO, though few people correctly place the apostrophe.

  • 01.08.2013 8:47 AM PDT

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It really depends on the subject and what is being refferred to.
" The British are coming" sounds better to ne than ' the British is coming".

Conversely, " The Texas rangers are going to win the Division' sounds better than ' the Texas rangers is going to win the division".


But The British, while it is an accepted title, is really an adjective.
Apples to Apples would be "Britain are coming".
See, sounds weird.
Same with The Rangers, while a single unit, have a pluralized adjective-like name.
But if you went with "Texas is going to win", that sounds correct.

[Edited on 01.08.2013 8:56 AM PST]

  • 01.08.2013 8:55 AM PDT

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It's weird for me, I use "is" when talking about companies, e.g. "Bungie is working on 'Destiny'", but when I talk about bands, I use are, e.g. "Imagine Dragons are really good. They're working on a new album." unless the artist is a solo act, such as "Owl City is OK."

  • 01.08.2013 9:03 AM PDT

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It depends on the sentence. I can't think of an example where you'd use 'are'.

  • 01.08.2013 9:05 AM PDT

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There is no debate about this. There are rules when to use each one. When referring to the individuals banded together in a group, use are:

Bungie are going to the store.

When referring to Bungie as one entity, use is:

Bungie is a private game developer.

  • 01.08.2013 9:06 AM PDT

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I'd use is.

  • 01.08.2013 9:06 AM PDT

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"Bungie" is compound subject, referring to the people who work for the company. It is correct to use "is" when referring to Bungie.

"Bungie is releasing a new game next quarter"

However, when you're talking about "the Bungie developers", you use "are".

  • 01.08.2013 9:19 AM PDT

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