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Ok, well I was thinking about the Halo series after i just recently beat the second game on legendary and it dawned on me. The arbiter and Johnson shouldn't have teamed up. Towards the end you start helping the humans(when you play as the arbiter) so now basically the whole covy army is against brutes and prophets. I think this was a bad move for bungie. Technicaly in my theroy in Halo3 Johnson gets back to Earth.(probably finds another way to get back again LOL) anyway so know you have the Humans with a semi alliance with the covenant.Which brings me to my next thought.Do the covenant and humans finnaly ally and try to destroy the flood and the brutes. Covenant know that they themselves cannot match the flood if an outbreak occured everything would gradualy die. Could this possibly be why in the Halo3 release trailer that after walking threw the metal structue(which i think strongly resemble the the arbiter room from halo2) now master cheif is looking down an an artifact of unknown. Ships pass above his head and after that a series of banshees. yet strangly the banshees dont attack the cheif. could this because of an alliance or possibly they are in a hurry to flee from something. Personaly i have no idea but somehow the story isnt making sence. I dont think the covenant and humans should have allied in the end of Halo2. I have a feeling it will not tie into the story well enough to make sence of. And if they didnt ally then what will become of the arbitar and Johnson? Will they fight? Will the arbitor take what he was assigned by the prophets and take his death sentence to the cheif and try to take him with him? And if so what become the rest of the covenant. Other elites helped you fight the master brute. So we have elites and brutes fighting. And as we all know grutes follow the elites and flee if they die. So will the rest of the covenant join on the bandwagon and try to reveal the final secrets of halo and try to save both races? Then what happens to the brutes? Do they loose power? Do the prophets become expossed and betrayed by which they have created? I have no idea so plz reply.

Ps plz no flames i realize my ideas my not even be close to what you think or maybe they are. plz no flames im just simply stating ym opion on the whole human and covy relatiionship.PLz reply and no flames.

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  • 07.08.2006 9:34 PM PDT

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Well, technically the Elites etc. aren't allied with the Humans.. They're just temporarily allied with Johnson and Miranda to further their own needs..

  • 07.08.2006 9:38 PM PDT
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  • 07.08.2006 9:41 PM PDT
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I can tell you thought a lot about it. You make a good point

  • 07.08.2006 9:51 PM PDT
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yes i have lol but i just wanna figure this out i mean the whole thing.. i want he whole chocolate ckae.(not suure were i got that)

  • 07.08.2006 9:58 PM PDT
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Posted by: elemenety_aware
Ok, well I was thinking about the Halo series after i just recently beat the second game on legendary and it dawned on me. The arbiter and Johnson shouldn't have teamed up. Towards the end you start helping the humans(when you play as the arbiter) so now basically the whole covy army is against brutes and prophets. I think this was a bad move for bungie. Technicaly in my theroy in Halo3 Johnson gets back to Earth.(probably finds another way to get back again LOL) anyway so know you have the Humans with a semi alliance with the covenant.Which brings me to my next thought.Do the covenant and humans finnaly ally and try to destroy the flood and the brutes. Covenant know that they themselves cannot match the flood if an outbreak occured everything would gradualy die. Could this possibly be why in the Halo3 release trailer that after walking threw the metal structue(which i think strongly resemble the the arbiter room from halo2) now master cheif is looking down an an artifact of unknown. Ships pass above his head and after that a series of banshees. yet strangly the banshees dont attack the cheif. could this because of an alliance or possibly they are in a hurry to flee from something. Personaly i have no idea but somehow the story isnt making sence. I dont think the covenant and humans should have allied in the end of Halo2. I have a feeling it will not tie into the story well enough to make sence of. And if they didnt ally then what will become of the arbitar and Johnson? Will they fight? Will the arbitor take what he was assigned by the prophets and take his death sentence to the cheif and try to take him with him? And if so what become the rest of the covenant. Other elites helped you fight the master brute. So we have elites and brutes fighting. And as we all know grutes follow the elites and flee if they die. So will the rest of the covenant join on the bandwagon and try to reveal the final secrets of halo and try to save both races? Then what happens to the brutes? Do they loose power? Do the prophets become expossed and betrayed by which they have created? I have no idea so plz reply.

Ps plz no flames i realize my ideas my not even be close to what you think or maybe they are. plz no flames im just simply stating ym opion on the whole human and covy relatiionship.PLz reply and no flames.

Sincerly,
X1PointBlank1X


Well dude, if the Elites, Grunts, and the hunters allied with the hum, they would kinda break an oath...maybe... because the cov believed they were the only race in the universe and so they wiped out all of everything they found as said in the books. and also the assighnment the prophets gave the arbitar....does'nt even eally matter anymore because he told tartarous the prophets lied and betrayed them...

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good point made..but thre would not be an oath to betray as u said..the prophets secrets and lies have been reavealed..there is no oath...as of my opion the covy is falling apart.

  • 07.08.2006 10:09 PM PDT
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the elites and such never actually allied with us. it was merely a necessary alliance for the sake of us all, and as far as we know, is merely temporary.

even if it does hold up, the forces at earth know nothing of this. chances are, at least a few levels from halo 3 will have chief fighting the full original covenant like old times. at some point however, the arbiter will arrive (probably along with the flood) and we will be left with a multi-way war.

EVEN SO, it is doubtful that every single elite and every single grunt and every single hunter will all of a sudden just drop their religious beliefs that have been pounded into their head because an elite with THE MARK OF SHAME told them to.

chances are, we will be left with a situation like this:
humans vs. rebel covenant vs. loyalist covenant vs. flood vs. sentinels/forerunner

also, i'd just like to say that since none of the forces at earth witnessed the events at delta halo, there is no reason for people to believe the arbiter, he has everything working against him.

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yes thats very possible.but the covenant as i think have realized the truth.prophets have lied and possibly covenant now have no religious beliefs because it was all cover ups and secrets and lies....possiblity.

  • 07.08.2006 10:15 PM PDT
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are you not listening? the covenant DONT KNOW that the prophets are lying, because no one at earth witnessed the betayal at delta halo! as far as the forces at earth are concerned, the arbiter and company are heretics! they join forces with the enemy humans and he denies their religious beliefs! he has slain their "brothers" the brutes and drones and jackals.

once again, i cannot stress this enough. NO ONE at earth knows what happened on delta halo, so there is no reason for them to believe the arbiter!

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yes i suppose that true i didnt word wat i meant o say quite right but like u said this is probably so...

  • 07.08.2006 10:21 PM PDT

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It should all be fine. Bungie started Halo 3 right after 2. So they have probably thought it out if they jumped right on Halo 3. The story is probably going to be amazing, and i can't wait for the movie!

  • 07.08.2006 10:25 PM PDT
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Posted by: Omega Archangel
It should all be fine. Bungie started Halo 3 right after 2. So they have probably thought it out if they jumped right on Halo 3. The story is probably going to be amazing, and i can't wait for the movie!




MOVIE!!!!!!!! :) when...how long...tell me!!!!!!!!!!!! but yes u make a good point

  • 07.08.2006 10:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: Omega Archangel
It should all be fine. Bungie started Halo 3 right after 2. So they have probably thought it out if they jumped right on Halo 3. The story is probably going to be amazing, and i can't wait for the movie!




MOVIE!!!!!!!! :) when...how long...tell me!!!!!!!!!!!! but yes u make a good point

  • 07.08.2006 10:29 PM PDT
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we arent sure exactly when the movie is coming out, but we do know that it is being produced by peter jackson, director for the lord of the rings trilogy.

  • 07.08.2006 10:30 PM PDT
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means its gonna pwn!!!!!!! but yes this is getting to b off topic so lets try to keep to the thread thxs..i want ot get many ideas b4 it dies..hopefully it doesnt so keep it alive ppl!!!!!!!!

  • 07.08.2006 10:31 PM PDT
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do you not realise that the only reason the Arbiter helped them was because by helping them he helped himself.... not to mention saved the galaxy....

There is not necessarily any alliance between covies and humans...
the only covies with the Arbiter are the elites grunts and hunters.
The brutes, jackals and bugs are all with the prophets.

what in the world were you thinking when you said the stories wouldn't fit together? BUNGIE has now made 2 award winning games in a row... Bungie will one day take over the UNIVERSe... they'll start with the world though... so don't you think that these all powerful game makers can make their games fit together?

  • 07.08.2006 10:34 PM PDT
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well people...the cov are also or pobably religious to the halos and all that stuff also. And for the cov and hum not to know about what happened on delta halo.....maybe in the fight between the brutes and the elites, they sent a transmission to the cov an earth. But then again maybe not. halo3 might start out with everyone allied or not, we'll see.

  • 07.08.2006 10:35 PM PDT
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do you not realise that the only reason the Arbiter helped them was because by helping them he helped himself.... not to mention saved the galaxy....

There is not necessarily any alliance between covies and humans...
the only covies with the Arbiter are the elites grunts and hunters.
The brutes, jackals and bugs are all with the prophets.

what in the world were you thinking when you said the stories wouldn't fit together? BUNGIE has now made 2 award winning games in a row... Bungie will one day take over the UNIVERSe... they'll start with the world though... so don't you think that these all powerful game makers can make their games fit together?


Ok dude....i know Bungie is the $hit...but you need to calm down and try to face what we're talking about here.

  • 07.08.2006 10:37 PM PDT
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and yet death omen u flamed me!!!!!!!!!!

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even if they sent a transmission, it is doubtful that all elites, grunts, and hunters will all of a sudden drop their lifelong religious beliefs.

  • 07.08.2006 10:37 PM PDT
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Posted by: FinalSonicX
even if they sent a transmission, it is doubtful that all elites, grunts, and hunters will all of a sudden drop their lifelong religious beliefs.


Yeah that's true....but then again if they sent the transmission...all those religious beliefs will go right out the window.

  • 07.08.2006 10:41 PM PDT
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all I'm saying is that before Bungie even started the Halo Games they made something called "The Halo Bible"... they wrote the whole story before they even started making the games. They've known how it ends for years and years and years.... Trust in Bungie to make their game right... cuz they will whether you do or not.

  • 07.08.2006 10:42 PM PDT
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how do the prophets know what the ark can do

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again good point...but even though old covenant were long ago current covenant has changed many ways. there are now heritics and such..tramsion psibility..i agree not all with "disbann covenant" some possibly will...yet i woulkd imaging most of the covenant kno of the brute rise to power because of the secne right in the begining of halo2 on high charity. i think that would b most of the covies because after that they strt to invade earth...so its possiblke they could kno of the rise to power and relize wat is going on...eventually some way or another...

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