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Subject: Should Halo 3 have melee lunge?
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Posted by: detach614
the last two poster are dumbasses.

how is realistic to instantly light speed lunge while standing still.

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Lmao. It's funny, since your sentences weren't correct and you said "repeated to emphasis". Both are wrong. How pathetic. I think it's pretty obvious who the dumbass is now.

It is realistic. You don't go at light speed to lunge. You lunge forward by leaning. When you punch, you lean forward to gain more power an momentum. You don't just get into someone's face, stand there, and hit them. You always move forward. Try it on someone. Just tap them. Is it better to hit them while standing still or by moving/leaning/lunging at them? You are springing off your feet, almost "jumping" at the target.

Listen kid, don't be any more pathetic so I don't think even less of you. You already made yourself an immature idiot for spelling your insults wrong, as well as pronouncing them incorrectly. When you actually attempted a terrible insult. I only gave my opinion, and you whine that I'm stupid because I believe something you don't.

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  • 07.25.2006 11:41 PM PDT
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Look im not going to read through all of this i read through some skimmed some, but most of you idiots have no idea what your talking about, the only real reason that there is lunge at all is because the multiplayer was designed for ONLINE, which means there WILL BE LAG, so by the time you see the person and hit melee they could be out of range, were as this is kept to a minimum with the lunge. and mellee would be useless without it guarentee if it was taken out it would be the NUMBER 1 thing complained about.

  • 07.25.2006 11:48 PM PDT
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NO lunge. It completely takes the skill out of melee fights. In Halo 1, the winner of a melee fight is based on who has the faster, better timed and more accurate double melee. In Halo 2, it's about how hits the "B" button first.

And don't try to say that the lunge is caused by "leaning forward". That's the dumbest thing I've ever read. When I lean forward, my feet don't just magically fly three feet forward and transplant me into a new location. Go back and set up a split screen Halo 1 game. Watch yourself melee with the pistol. That's leaning forward, not this stupid lunge crap.

  • 07.26.2006 12:13 AM PDT
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Posted by: spartan39
Look im not going to read through all of this i read through some skimmed some, but most of you idiots have no idea what your talking about, the only real reason that there is lunge at all is because the multiplayer was designed for ONLINE, which means there WILL BE LAG, so by the time you see the person and hit melee they could be out of range, were as this is kept to a minimum with the lunge. and mellee would be useless without it guarentee if it was taken out it would be the NUMBER 1 thing complained about.


You're COMPLETELY wrong. I can win the majority of melee fights in Halo 1 (in which there is no lunge) while playing off-host in 120 ping.

YOU HAVE TO BE GOOD.

  • 07.26.2006 12:13 AM PDT
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You're all going to hate me for this...

I actually prefer melee lunge.

  • 07.26.2006 12:17 AM PDT
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Posted by: detach614
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It better have the lunge, all of u who dont want it probaly just r terrible at it. lunging is one of the coolest things about the gameplay, i hate other games like call of duty cause the melee is pointless cause its too hard to use effectivily, instead of punchung thet just continue to shoot. melee lunge is critical to upclose action and should definitly stay!!!!!!!!11

just woke up so my spelling sucks


Translation:

I suck ass at halo 2. I can't melee people acurately without the lockon lunge. I am a total dumbass, I fail to relize that melee lunge is also random. I am stupid. Please Bungie, make halo 3 random so my sorry ass can win. I am very dumb.


Obvioulsy YOU (detach) don't realize how much the lock on lunge HELPS you in close range combat. All you people are concerned about is "skill". Skill this, skill that, it's absolute nonsence. What about the people that want to play the game for...oh...I don't know...fun? The reason games are MADE for...fun. If you make a game that you need pure skill to beat, a lot of people won't even touch it.

Halo isn't about realism, we're fighting aliens for christ's sake. Why are you all caught up in realism? It's a game...it's not meant to be real. If you want realism AND skill, play Battlefield 2 Modern Combat live, that game has nearly NO auto-aim...and guess what? No melee's....if you want to melee, you have to use a knife, and you practically have to be on top of the person to kill them.

Also, the lunge has MAJOR effect on gameplay, for instance: You are chasing a guy and he is just close enough for an assassination, so you tap B and MC lunges forward but you miss the melee. Well, now that you are closer from the lunge, you can surely get an assassination. It prevents your target from getting away. In the first Halo, you had to be right on the person to melee them...

Also, when you are falling and you press B, causing MC to lunge is great. I, on many occasions have beaten people down off the platforms on Warlock by jumping and lunging.

The lunge isn't realistic? If you pushed a gun forward with all your might to hit something, you'd move a little bit too don't you think?

Stop exaggerating on how far he can lunge...15 feet is utter crap. The farthest he can melee is about 3-5 feet if you are lucky. I'm not to sure on the sword, but come on...it's a glowing pink sword, how real is that? What's the use of the sword without the lunge?

I know the Halo 3 Forum is for people's opinions/ideas of what they want in Halo 3... but come on....do you really want Halo 3 to be like Halo 1? Think about it...

Halo 3 =/= Halo 1....GET OVER IT.

*why do I even bother.....*

  • 07.26.2006 12:36 AM PDT

Hail to the Victors! Reppin' that MAIZE n BLUE!!!
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Chill bro. Gotta get my bowl.

The melee lunge is ridiculous. Seriously, how many times have you gone to assassinate someone, only to lunge at them and miss like 5 times in a row.

  • 07.26.2006 12:50 AM PDT

Posted by: I Am Ding Ding
Posted by: detach614
Posted by: NobleWolf
It better have the lunge, all of u who dont want it probaly just r terrible at it. lunging is one of the coolest things about the gameplay, i hate other games like call of duty cause the melee is pointless cause its too hard to use effectivily, instead of punchung thet just continue to shoot. melee lunge is critical to upclose action and should definitly stay!!!!!!!!11

just woke up so my spelling sucks


Translation:

I suck ass at halo 2. I can't melee people acurately without the lockon lunge. I am a total dumbass, I fail to relize that melee lunge is also random. I am stupid. Please Bungie, make halo 3 random so my sorry ass can win. I am very dumb.


Obvioulsy YOU (detach) don't realize how much the lock on lunge HELPS you in close range combat. All you people are concerned about is "skill". Skill this, skill that, it's absolute nonsence. What about the people that want to play the game for...oh...I don't know...fun? The reason games are MADE for...fun. If you make a game that you need pure skill to beat, a lot of people won't even touch it.

Halo isn't about realism, we're fighting aliens for christ's sake. Why are you all caught up in realism? It's a game...it's not meant to be real. If you want realism AND skill, play Battlefield 2 Modern Combat live, that game has nearly NO auto-aim...and guess what? No melee's....if you want to melee, you have to use a knife, and you practically have to be on top of the person to kill them.

Also, the lunge has MAJOR effect on gameplay, for instance: You are chasing a guy and he is just close enough for an assassination, so you tap B and MC lunges forward but you miss the melee. Well, now that you are closer from the lunge, you can surely get an assassination. It prevents your target from getting away. In the first Halo, you had to be right on the person to melee them...

Also, when you are falling and you press B, causing MC to lunge is great. I, on many occasions have beaten people down off the platforms on Warlock by jumping and lunging.

The lunge isn't realistic? If you pushed a gun forward with all your might to hit something, you'd move a little bit too don't you think?

Stop exaggerating on how far he can lunge...15 feet is utter crap. The farthest he can melee is about 3-5 feet if you are lucky. I'm not to sure on the sword, but come on...it's a glowing pink sword, how real is that? What's the use of the sword without the lunge?

I know the Halo 3 Forum is for people's opinions/ideas of what they want in Halo 3... but come on....do you really want Halo 3 to be like Halo 1? Think about it...

Halo 3 =/= Halo 1....GET OVER IT.

*why do I even bother.....*

Halo 3 =/= Halo 2.

I'm pretty sure the 15 feet was referring to the energy sword.

And you really don't get it. You think the game should just be made easier and easier. You think the game should flatter the player and make him feel godlike for accomplishing tasks of mediocre skill. The game is meant for fun, but your don't get fun without competition, and you don't get competition when everything is made to be easy. Where is the reward in pulling off a feat if it was basically done for you? There is none. Take away the challenge and you are left with nothing more than a playground, a sandbox. I'm sure you'd like to have an even more super-assisted melee lunge with a bigger range, auto-headshotting rifles and more one-hit kill infinite ammo homing weapons. If you don't, stop arguing that the challenge should be taken away.

  • 07.26.2006 2:41 AM PDT
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melle lunges are for the better. they make it so that you dont have to chase a guy for hours to assassinate someone, and it makes for more strategies.

  • 07.26.2006 4:13 AM PDT
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Posted by: RhythmKiller
Halo 3 =/= Halo 2.

I'm pretty sure the 15 feet was referring to the energy sword.

And you really don't get it. You think the game should just be made easier and easier. You think the game should flatter the player and make him feel godlike for accomplishing tasks of mediocre skill. The game is meant for fun, but your don't get fun without competition, and you don't get competition when everything is made to be easy. Where is the reward in pulling off a feat if it was basically done for you? There is none. Take away the challenge and you are left with nothing more than a playground, a sandbox. I'm sure you'd like to have an even more super-assisted melee lunge with a bigger range, auto-headshotting rifles and more one-hit kill infinite ammo homing weapons. If you don't, stop arguing that the challenge should be taken away.


When did I say I think the game should be made easy? I didn't. So shutup. I, as a matter of fact, think everything was perfectly fine in Halo 2. All you guys like to do is complain about this and that. Nobody can play games anymore without people complaining about something. Look at halo2sucks.com, that's a website FILLED with complaints. If you don't like the game being so easy, why not turn up the difficulty setting a bit. Did you think of that? They aren't making Halo 3 to be a game where only people with this "skill" can play it. It's a game, meaning anybody can play it, anytime, no matter how good they are. You obviously haven't played at my level. The game does get hard (talking about Live), you have to get better and adapt to skills.

I hope (and I know they won't) Bungie puts in every ridiculous idea you guys have come up with. Then we will see who knows what they are talking about. That means: No auto-aim, no sword lunge when you are falling, no melee lunge at all, 50 billion different grenade types, new weapons...which will be rendered useless since we are going to throw in the Halo 1 Pistol...Pistol-snipe away!

See, some people don't even think when they are throwing out new ideas.

When you say to stop arguing that I want the challenge to be thrown away. It isn't that, I just want to be able to KILL something in Halo 3. If Halo 3 goes where I think it's going...we are screwed. But, I will be laughing because everyone here brought it on themselves...

Long live the Flood!!

  • 07.26.2006 4:35 AM PDT

Posted by: I Am Ding Ding
When did I say I think the game should be made easy? I didn't. So shutup.

-You talk about how the game is better for being easier all through that post so don’t give me that. You praise the things that make the game easier all through out it - if it’s such a good thing why not have more huh?

All you guys like to do is complain about this and that.
-All “you” guys? Who is “you” guys? People who don’t agree with everything you say?

Nobody can play games anymore without people complaining about something. Look at halo2sucks.com, that's a website FILLED with complaints.
-How dare people have an opinion! Suppress them at once!

If you don't like the game being so easy, why not turn up the difficulty setting a bit. Did you think of that?
-There is no ‘difficulty setting’ in multiplayer you colossal arse.

They aren't making Halo 3 to be a game where only people with this "skill" can play it. It's a game, meaning anybody can play it, anytime, no matter how good they are. You obviously haven't played at my level. The game does get hard (talking about Live), you have to get better and adapt to skills.
-Anyone can pick up and play any game. It just takes longer to master and rewards you with greater depth of gameplay when you have to apply a bit more skill to accompish feats in the game. Having a bit of a skill gap is not mutually exclusive with having fun as you seem to believe – in fact it is more fun because each kill becomes more rewarding. I think perhaps people like you want to pick it up and be good straight away.

I hope (and I know they won't) Bungie puts in every ridiculous idea you guys have come up with. Then we will see who knows what they are talking about. That means: No auto-aim, no sword lunge when you are falling, no melee lunge at all, 50 billion different grenade types, new weapons...which will be rendered useless since we are going to throw in the Halo 1 Pistol...Pistol-snipe away!
-Once again with the “you guys” BS. Who the hell wants a load of grenade types? I don’t. Who the hell wants no auto-aim? I don’t. Who the hell asked for the return of the Halo 1 pistol? I didn’t do that either, so get off my sack when complaining about every opinion you disagree with.

When you say to stop arguing that I want the challenge to be thrown away. It isn't that, I just want to be able to KILL something in Halo 3. If Halo 3 goes where I think it's going...we are screwed. But, I will be laughing because everyone here brought it on themselves...
-I think you will find you are able to kill something in, ooh, I don’t know, for example, Halo 1.

  • 07.26.2006 5:28 AM PDT

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