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Subject: Down with Dual Wielding
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Not only is it very un-militaristic two carry to guns but it weakened the weapons. It looked stupid during CGI's but it made many guns in halo 2 crap. So, down with Dual Wielding, lets just abolish it!!!

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  • 07.11.2006 7:34 PM PDT
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Posted by: MAC 13720
Not only is it very un-militaristic to carry to guns but it weakened the weapons. Itllooked stupid during CGI's but it made many guns in halo 2 crap. So, down with Dual Wielding, lets just abolish it!!!
Halo and Halo 2 is not Rainbow six.

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  • 07.11.2006 7:35 PM PDT

Posted by: Duardo
I'd love to be a 10 year old and tell my mom I'm going on an adventure out into the world catching Pokemon, with her full support. Never mind the fact that there are rapists, criminals, and murders out there, or the fact that I may get killed by a Pokemon.

Luckily I have Pikachu.

Hell no!!!!!!!!!!!!

Leave Duel weilding, so what if duel-weilding made weapons a little more inaccurate.

Suck it up!

  • 07.11.2006 7:35 PM PDT
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It's too late...

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Posted by: MAC 13720
down with Dual Wielding, lets just abolish it!!!


Dude that's a dumb idea... I may just start hating you for it... but I shall forgive you.

  • 07.11.2006 7:37 PM PDT
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They are Spartans and Elites though... they're just bad-ass like that.

  • 07.11.2006 7:37 PM PDT
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What the Hell is the matter with you?!? Duel Wielding is what made halo 2... Halo 2. It is realistic because MC can lift a tank. I think he can hold two wepons.I agree somewepons did become weaker, but there ment to be put into combos. Duel Wielding stays.

  • 07.11.2006 7:39 PM PDT
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Posted by: HaloFighter92
Halo and Halo 2 is not Rainbow six.

  • 07.11.2006 7:41 PM PDT
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Posted by: Foehammer 0443
What the Hell is the matter with you?!? Duel Wielding is what made halo 2... Halo 2. It is realistic because MC can lift a tank. I think he can hold two wepons.I agree somewepons did become weaker, but there ment to be put into combos. Duel Wielding stays.
The reason you like Halo 2 is because of dual-wielding? Wow. I didn't know that one gameplay feature could determine the outcome of a game.

  • 07.11.2006 7:42 PM PDT
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why did it have to make the weapons suck though

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  • 07.11.2006 7:42 PM PDT
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Posted by: Vitamin Zawaz
Posted by: Foehammer 0443
What the Hell is the matter with you?!? Duel Wielding is what made halo 2... Halo 2. It is realistic because MC can lift a tank. I think he can hold two wepons.I agree somewepons did become weaker, but there ment to be put into combos. Duel Wielding stays.
The reason you like Halo 2 is because of dual-wielding? Wow. I didn't know that one gameplay feature could determine the outcome of a game.
He's just saying he liked duel weilding...made a good style of play.

MAC what the Hell do you mean?

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  • 07.11.2006 7:43 PM PDT

Mac, you are just wrong.

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Posted by: Vitamin Zawaz
Posted by: Foehammer 0443
What the Hell is the matter with you?!? Duel Wielding is what made halo 2... Halo 2. It is realistic because MC can lift a tank. I think he can hold two wepons.I agree somewepons did become weaker, but there ment to be put into combos. Duel Wielding stays.
The reason you like Halo 2 is because of dual-wielding? Wow. I didn't know that one gameplay feature could determine the outcome of a game.


I like Halo 2 for a number of resons. My favorite is the story. I don't use duel weilds much, I only use SMG and Plasma rifle(Both kinds) and Duel weilding pistols(My favorite) I use a couple here and there to see how effective they are.

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Posted by: HaloFighter92
Posted by: Vitamin Zawaz
Posted by: Foehammer 0443
What the Hell is the matter with you?!? Duel Wielding is what made halo 2... Halo 2. It is realistic because MC can lift a tank. I think he can hold two wepons.I agree somewepons did become weaker, but there ment to be put into combos. Duel Wielding stays.
The reason you like Halo 2 is because of dual-wielding? Wow. I didn't know that one gameplay feature could determine the outcome of a game.
He's just saying he liked duel weilding...made a good style of play.

MAC what the Hell do you mean?
He means that when you single-wield a small-arms weapon in Halo 2, it isn't very reliable. Which is the truth. There is no point on relying on one of those weapons unless you dual-wield them, which I consider an imbalance.

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Posted by: Foehammer 0443
What the Hell is the matter with you?!? Duel Wielding is what made halo 2... Halo 2. It is realistic because MC can lift a tank.


Yet he cannot control the recoil on an SMG?

No video game will ever be more than 1% realistic ever. That is why you never, ever, ever trump gameplay for phony "realism", and dual wielding is bad gameplay. It's impossible to get the balance right. Either dual wielding overpowers, or dual wield weapons are weak and crappy on their own.

The only time I've seen dual wielding work is when it's purely cosmetic ala the pistols in UCII.

You want realism? Grab a rifle and pack and sign up for Iraq.

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Posted by: Vitamin Zawaz
Posted by: HaloFighter92
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Posted by: Foehammer 0443
What the Hell is the matter with you?!? Duel Wielding is what made halo 2... Halo 2. It is realistic because MC can lift a tank. I think he can hold two wepons.I agree somewepons did become weaker, but there ment to be put into combos. Duel Wielding stays.
The reason you like Halo 2 is because of dual-wielding? Wow. I didn't know that one gameplay feature could determine the outcome of a game.
He's just saying he liked duel weilding...made a good style of play.

MAC what the Hell do you mean?
He means that when you single-wield a small-arms weapon in Halo 2, it isn't very reliable. Which is the truth. There is no point on relying on one of those weapons unless you dual-wield them, which I consider an imbalance.
Or...your a bad player. it is componsated with grenades. Plus it seems we are only talknig Multiplayer terms here, the SMG was quite powerful in the Campaign. Plasma Rifle can kill, it just takes skill to aim it right. And it's a "bezerk" weapon. Shot a few shots at a guy at close range, melee him and he's done.

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Posted by: Foehammer 0443
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Posted by: Foehammer 0443
What the Hell is the matter with you?!? Duel Wielding is what made halo 2... Halo 2. It is realistic because MC can lift a tank. I think he can hold two wepons.I agree somewepons did become weaker, but there ment to be put into combos. Duel Wielding stays.
The reason you like Halo 2 is because of dual-wielding? Wow. I didn't know that one gameplay feature could determine the outcome of a game.


I like Halo 2 for a number of resons. My favorite is the story. I don't use duel weilds much, I only use SMG and Plasma rifle(Both kinds) and Duel weilding pistols(My favorite) I use a couple here and there to see how effective they are.


You dont use duel weilds...

But your favorite weapon is two magnums. "pistols".

how does that work?

  • 07.11.2006 7:52 PM PDT
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He's saying it's realistic for the Halo universe... I did not know MC almost falls over everytime he fired an SMG, Hmmm...


No one's going to change the fact that dual-weilding is in Halo, stop complaining about it, please.

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Posted by: HaloFighter92
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Posted by: Foehammer 0443
What the Hell is the matter with you?!? Duel Wielding is what made halo 2... Halo 2. It is realistic because MC can lift a tank. I think he can hold two wepons.I agree somewepons did become weaker, but there ment to be put into combos. Duel Wielding stays.
The reason you like Halo 2 is because of dual-wielding? Wow. I didn't know that one gameplay feature could determine the outcome of a game.
He's just saying he liked duel weilding...made a good style of play.

MAC what the Hell do you mean?
He means that when you single-wield a small-arms weapon in Halo 2, it isn't very reliable. Which is the truth. There is no point on relying on one of those weapons unless you dual-wield them, which I consider an imbalance.
Or...your a bad player. it is componsated with grenades. Plus it seems we are only talknig Multiplayer terms here, the SMG was quite powerful in the Campaign. Plasma Rifle can kill, it just takes skill to aim it right. And it's a "bezerk" weapon. Shot a few shots at a guy at close range, melee him and he's done.
Why the hell is the most common point "You suck at the game"? Really, is that the only argument I ever hear? How can you make an assumption without seeing me play? That's what I'd like to know.
And I love how you describe it so simply; see, you're only disproving yourself. I said that dual-wielding is unbalanced, but unbalanced can mean either too strong or too weak. And by posting such a simple solution to ANY dual-wielder (shoot a few times, then melee-that sounds a little too easy, don't you think?), you have only proven my point that dual-wielding is unbalanced.

Taking out a skilled player should not be easy to describe; you seem to have thought of one simple sentence to take care of any dual-wielder in Halo 2, yet if the game really DID take skill to play, then it would require more thought to kill a dual-wielder, not just "shoot a few times and melee."

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Posted by: Vitamin Zawaz
Posted by: HaloFighter92
Posted by: Vitamin Zawaz
Posted by: HaloFighter92
Posted by: Vitamin Zawaz
Posted by: Foehammer 0443
What the Hell is the matter with you?!? Duel Wielding is what made halo 2... Halo 2. It is realistic because MC can lift a tank. I think he can hold two wepons.I agree somewepons did become weaker, but there ment to be put into combos. Duel Wielding stays.
The reason you like Halo 2 is because of dual-wielding? Wow. I didn't know that one gameplay feature could determine the outcome of a game.
He's just saying he liked duel weilding...made a good style of play.

MAC what the Hell do you mean?
He means that when you single-wield a small-arms weapon in Halo 2, it isn't very reliable. Which is the truth. There is no point on relying on one of those weapons unless you dual-wield them, which I consider an imbalance.
Or...your a bad player. it is componsated with grenades. Plus it seems we are only talknig Multiplayer terms here, the SMG was quite powerful in the Campaign. Plasma Rifle can kill, it just takes skill to aim it right. And it's a "bezerk" weapon. Shot a few shots at a guy at close range, melee him and he's done.
Why the hell is the most common point "You suck at the game"? Really, is that the only argument I ever hear? How can you make an assumption without seeing me play? That's what I'd like to know.
And I love how you describe it so simply; see, you're only disproving yourself. I said that dual-wielding is unbalanced, but unbalanced can mean either too strong or too weak. And by posting such a simple solution to ANY dual-wielder (shoot a few times, then melee-that sounds a little too easy, don't you think?), you have only proven my point that dual-wielding is unbalanced.

Taking out a skilled player should not be easy to describe; you seem to have thought of one simple sentence to take care of any dual-wielder in Halo 2, yet if the game really DID take skill to play, then it would require more thought to kill a dual-wielder, not just "shoot a few times and melee."
Never said you sucked.

The other part of my post was directed to the person who posted this thread.

  • 07.11.2006 8:01 PM PDT
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You said I was a bad player, which is the same as saying that I suck.

  • 07.11.2006 8:02 PM PDT

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IMMORTAL.

I don't know, in a way it did feel like I was carrying a half gun. I liked the weapons better before the update when you could take down people in seconds. Even if you spawned with a typical weapon, you still had a solid chance.

Unlike now.......

  • 07.11.2006 8:04 PM PDT
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did you notice the person with the terrible idea also has mac in his name.

a macontosh fan?

I eat macs.

  • 07.11.2006 8:05 PM PDT

The last with pagan blood.
IMMORTAL.

Posted by: Clayton Bigsby1
dual wielding should stay in halo 3 becuase it adds more variety to the game. i mean seriously, does anyone use one needler? no, they use two because one is almost useless. so why don't you think of it as a gift from bungie instead of a curse. if dual wielding wasn't in halo 2, weapons such as the magnum and needler would be completeley useless instead of being pretty potent when dual wielded
Then that means that people will always dual wield and holding just one gun would be pointless.

  • 07.11.2006 8:11 PM PDT