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Subject: Possible Proof That Humans AREN'T Forerunners
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Ok, this is quoted from Wikipedia.

the Covenant frigate in that encounter demonstrated knowledge of the English language, when it broadcast a single phrase "Your destruction is the will of the Gods...and we are their instrument." to the Terran Cruiser before opening fire on it.

The Covenant worship the Forerunners as "Gods," so they are most likely refferring to the Forerunners.

If Humans are Forerunners, why would we want the Covenant to destroy ourselves?

  • 07.11.2006 8:20 PM PDT
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anyone can edit wiki, it doesn't mean anything. Sorry to shoot you down.

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Posted by: TheGardianGrunt
anyone can edit wiki, it doesn't mean anything. Sorry to shoot you down.


Too bad that quote comes directly from The Fall of Reach, I've read it myself.

[Edited on 7/11/2006]

  • 07.11.2006 8:22 PM PDT
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*sigh* no, no, see... either
#1-the phrophets arn't aware that we're forrunners
#2-the prophets just want all forrunners/humans dead, to eliminate rivalry
#3-it doesn't matter, cause humans ARE forrunners

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Posted by: G3n3r4L ch13f
*sigh* no, no, see... either
#1-the phrophets arn't aware that we're forrunners
#2-the prophets just want all forrunners/humans dead, to eliminate rivalry
#3-it doesn't matter, cause humans ARE forrunners


1. I am aware of that.
2. Since when?
3. Where's your proof?

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Wikipedia isnt a good source to trust..

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Posted by: Toxik2thpik
Wikipedia isnt a good source to trust..


However, that quote comes DIRECTLY from the Halo novel, The Fall of Reach. Go look it up.

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And this theory didn't come from Wikipedia, it came from me.

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Prophets are liars and supressors of the truth.

Humans must be somehow related to the Forerunner, if not the direct descendents of Forerunner.

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1. I am aware of that.
2. Since when?
3. Where's your proof?

no, did you notice the little word up there....EITHER?!?
It's a long standing theory that the phrophets are corrupt.
This has also been debated many times before.
and, as for proof as to why Humans are forrunners...

-guilty spark says that MC's armor is a clas 2 compared to something.
-MC naturally knows how to work forrunner tech in the books.
-Humans are reclaimers, and the only species that can put in the index. something tells me the forrunners would save that duty for themselvs.
-and alot of other things I don't feel like typing, cause I'm A lazy jackass/

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no, did you notice the little word up there....EITHER?!?
It's a long standing theory that the phrophets are corrupt.
This has also been debated many times before.
and, as for proof as to why Humans are forrunners...

-guilty spark says that MC's armor is a clas 2 compared to something.
-MC naturally knows how to work forrunner tech in the books.
-Humans are reclaimers, and the only species that can put in the index. something tells me the forrunners would save that duty for themselvs.


I completely agree...and I know it says that quote in the book but it could be and Elite or a Brute commanding that ship, who are mislead by the prophets

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i think that the prophets are afraid of the humans

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The Humans ARE the Forerunners.

343 Guilty Spark SEVERAL quotes in Halo CE, and there our many other indicators as well.

In one level, he says something along the lines of Im glad to see some of you lived to reproduce.
Seeing as he is the monitor of halo and the flood are the only other things in the room, im EXTREMELY CERTAIN he is talking to the MC.

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yea dude covenant worship Forerunners but they have no idea the humans are forerunners. DUDE THEY THINK IF THEY ACTIVATE HALO IT MAKES THEM DEVINE GODS!!! THE COVENANT IS DER DA DER!!! they have no idea whats what and who is who...so yea humans r forerunners rather u like it or not

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Posted by: Arxaon
Ok, this is quoted from Wikipedia.

the Covenant frigate in that encounter demonstrated knowledge of the English language, when it broadcast a single phrase "Your destruction is the will of the Gods...and we are their instrument." to the Terran Cruiser before opening fire on it.

The Covenant worship the Forerunners as "Gods," so they are most likely refferring to the Forerunners.

If Humans are Forerunners, why would we want the Covenant to destroy ourselves?


why covie want us dead? well its the prophets ( or truth at least)
he doesnt want the rest of the covenant to find out that humanity are their revered "gods" so he simply tells the rest of the covie to kill anything that looks human. thus, humanity is unaware of their history and no one knows the truth ......except for Truth

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I've always said that. If the Forerunners were humans, why would their findings turn the Covenant against us?! And also, if the Forerunners were ancient humans, wouldn't we have SOME evidence of it? I mean, we would have known of them prior to the discovery of Halo 04, right?

  • 07.11.2006 10:33 PM PDT

I agree, humans are Forrunners. The Prophets have absolutely no idea of what is going on. They are basing everything on what they believe in their tiny heads, and passing it off as truth.

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i think the prophets ( at least Truth) knows that the humans are forerunner

anyone ever stop to notice:

* the halos look exactly like earth

* we can work their technology for some reason

* we are the only ones who can activate the rings

*installation 05 has AFRICA on it...........YES, AFRICA OF EARTH

*and their technology may be more advanced than ours, but we are developing our tech to become like theirs....remember chief's suit is level two. give humanity more time to research and im sure we could hit level 12, like our ancestors

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Qoute from m1racul1x:
In one level, he says something along the lines of Im glad to see some of you lived to reproduce.

Sorry to correct you but I believe you are refering to when 343 is rambling along in the Library. He is talking about the Flood reproducing. Not humans/Forerunners.

  • 07.11.2006 10:44 PM PDT

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I think that multiple races were in an 'Old Covenant', The Forerunners, Prophets, Elites, Brutes, etc..We would've lal been on friendly terms, and we were the strongest, and most technologically advanced race around at that time.

The Flood were encountered/created, blah blah. We made the Halos, with the help of the other races in the Covenant, we made sure that we were the only ones that could activate them (security reasons?)

The Prophets are obviously a power-hungry race...they could've been out for power..the Ring's being activated, and all the Races needing to essentially 'start over" on their home planets, via surviving in their respective Arks woul've been the pwerfect time to do so.

The Prophets got the Elites waged a war, and eventually the Prophets persuaded the Elites to form a [new] Covenant with them..they began to gather all of the races again, and over time seperated the Forerunners from the humans

Why do this? Maybe they were hoping to use our original allies, and close friends to kill us off, so they could be in our position for once (Ultimate Power) and then discarding their "instruments" (Elites) during Halo 2, hoping to kill them off with the Rings?

  • 07.11.2006 10:46 PM PDT
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Since the last time the Prophets and Elites were at war, I bet the Prophets, knowing they could not defeat the Elites, forged a truce by creating a false religion based on the Forerunner as gods and finding their path to salvation. Then here come the humans, and the Prophets probably know who the Forerunner were(on multiple accounts including incriptions, their once-Forerunner homeworld High Charity). So since the humans have no account whether they are or are related to the Forerunner, the Prophets ordered their extermination immediately to prevent the truth from leaking out that the "gods" were actually "inferior"(as they have yet to learn their heir) and what they were waging war on. If the Elites found out(even some Elites conspire on why humans were not offered into the Covenant), the Prophets would be doomed. So when the Brutes came into play, the Prophets saw them as the great equalizer as superior to the Elites of which they so hated and grudged. The Prophets soon ousted the Elites and later ordered a genocidal campaign on them as the turning point after the series of events in Halo 2 that led up to it.

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Qoute from m1racul1x:
In one level, he says something along the lines of Im glad to see some of you lived to reproduce.

Sorry to correct you but I believe you are refering to when 343 is rambling along in the Library. He is talking about the Flood reproducing. Not humans/Forerunners.


he wasnt talking about the flood cuz he says it was an error on the forerunners part to keep them for study

i fail to see why ppl think GS is talkin about the flood in that quote. he wants them dead, not alive so he can be glad to see them.

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Qoute from m1racul1x:
In one level, he says something along the lines of Im glad to see some of you lived to reproduce.

Sorry to correct you but I believe you are refering to when 343 is rambling along in the Library. He is talking about the Flood reproducing. Not humans/Forerunners.


he wasnt talking about the flood cuz he says it was an error on the forerunners part to keep them for study

i fail to see why ppl think GS is talkin about the flood in that quote. he wants them dead, not alive so he can be glad to see them.


I don't know if humans are forerunners, but I think 343 is talking about the flood here, because before and after that quote he's talking about the flood too. As for why he is glad too see them, he likes to studie them, and his task is to activate halo (or make others do that) if things go wrong (and he likes to do that, obviousely). And he hasn't done something for more then 100.000 years (now he has finally something to do) and has become crazy over that time.

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think of truth as a pope of the 15th century : corrupt, power mad, probably knew there is no god, but had so much power based on the belief in one. truth is either as ignorant as the rest of the covenant, or a knowlegdable manipulator using one big lie to rise in power. regret was looking for something forerunner on earth, but truth couldnt tell him of the human presence, to keep from being discovered, he had no choice but to let the situation devolope on its own. or, this is all part of his grand plan of controlling the halos or something, & things like the splitting of the covenant & the arbirter's survival couldve been planned events or major screw ups, or unplanned events helping his scheme along. who knows, maybe the prophets are the forerunners trying to reclaim the halos & flood, there are many possibilities

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Maybe the Covenant don't know that humans are Forruners?

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