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Subject: Possible Proof That Humans AREN'T Forerunners

Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N


*installation 05 has AFRICA on it...........YES, AFRICA OF EARTH


I've never seen this, can you link that? That's really cool if it's true.

  • 07.12.2006 1:37 AM PDT
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I realized, the covenant can't activate Halos because they aren't reclaimers, right? If the humans hadn't gone to the first Halo, or, I should say, Cortana hadn't brought them there, then the covenant couldn't active halo anyway, right?

And yes, cortana did bring them there. the blind jump wasn't blind, she got coordinates off of the covenant.

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OMG! I can't belive this. There is a whole, two page thread filled with people saying that Humans are Forerunner. The Forerunners are DEAD! D-E-A-D! for those who can't comprehend that their "perfect" little theory is wrong, dead means that they are no longer alive. You cannot find them anywhere.

Maybe humans look like/act like/sound like Forerunners, but they are not Forerunner. Being crazy mixed up beings that they are, the Prophets said that Forerunners were Gods to get the Elites off their necks.

MC knows how to operate Forerunner machinery because maybe, just maybe, there might actually be some form of label on the machinery. Yes, I know it's ridiculous but it might be true.

And as for Africa on Halo 05, that is some whacked-out idea with no proof. Maybe it's an Easter Egg. I don't think Bungie counted on people looking at the shape of the continents.

Don't you think that Covenant, with their vast knowledge of Forerunner relics and the Halo's, would go to Halo and search for it for years if they weren't able to activate it? Yes, yes Tartarus wasn't able to stick in the Index, but I think 343 told him not to because 343 thought he was too rough. Which was probably right.

  • 07.12.2006 2:08 AM PDT
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yes humans are not forrunners they are Reclamers, and that thing on earth is THE ARK!!!!!! god dammit NOT HALO 5. the only one thinking here is microapple. and stop throwing crap in. Humans = Reclamers Forrunners = DEAD. K? U GOT THAT. thank u microapple.

QuartzQuadrant, Cortana did make a blind jump even if she had the coordinates she had no clue were the go see so its still a blind jump

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  • 07.12.2006 2:58 AM PDT

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thank u

  • 07.12.2006 3:09 AM PDT
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To play or not to play....

orrr...

Humans may not be Forerunners directly but we may be decendants of the Forerunners.

GS mentions all the Forerunners died as planned during the last activation of the rings. So the Covenant may see Humans as supposed to be wiped out as per the will of the Forerinners.

The Covenant may be a bit confused as to what they are doing and simply might be acting on misinterpretted information. The Prophets are probably behind this misinformation.

The Forerunners on the other hand probably wanted their decendants to eventually evolve and rise up again.

  • 07.12.2006 4:49 AM PDT
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Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N

*and their technology may be more advanced than ours, but we are developing our tech to become like theirs....remember chief's suit is level two. give humanity more time to research and im sure we could hit level 12, like our ancestors


Just because the armour that MC was wearing at the time was at level 2 according to GS doesn't mean we have the same technology. GS was merely stating that he thought the level of armour that MC had was level 2. It means nothing more than that

Heck I can say a tree has a certian level of armour in its bark as does a fish in its scales. Granted it will not be much armour but if I say of fishy fishy you have armour level 0.001 that doesn't mean it is using my technology. It simply means that is the strength of its armour according to my scale.

Guilty Spark was merely referring to the inferior nature of MC's armour and said that he needed better armour. GS was suprized to see MC fighting the flood with seemingly inferior armour and weapons.

Oh and that Afrika thing you talk about is not accurate it only looks a bit like Afrika but it is very different if you actually look at it for more than two seconds.





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  • 07.12.2006 5:00 AM PDT
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Posted by: QuartzQuadrant
the blind jump wasn't blind, she got coordinates off of the covenant.


Actually the coordinates were from Foreruner technology found on Reach. The Covenant did not have this technology so it was very unlikely they would follow.

  • 07.12.2006 5:02 AM PDT

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fair enough

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wiipedia can be a good source to trust, bet this time yo got gyped, to listen to theroys there, no doupt there was a good theroy there, and you read a version that was most likey butchered by some dumb person who thinks his theroy is correct but dosen't know jack...

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Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N

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*and their technology may be more advanced than ours, but we are developing our tech to become like theirs....remember chief's suit is level two. give humanity more time to research and im sure we could hit level 12, like our ancestors

Of cours chief's armour looks like forerunner technology. Chief's armour was inspirated on elite armour which was inspirated (or even directly copied) from forerunner technology.

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Oh and that Afrika thing you talk about is not accurate it only looks a bit like Afrika but it is very different if you actually look at it for more than two seconds.




i......think its africa, ill post a pic of it later

(something so important was definitly worth the effort of gettin a pic of it)

why is it so hard to accept that the humans were forerunner? you guys are trying to confuse yourselves here. GS pretty much gave it away, now ppl are just reading a little TOO hard into his words and are contradicting themselves

no one has yet to give me IN GAME EVIDENCE that the humans werent forerunner

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I don't know if humans are forerunners, but I think 343 is talking about the flood here, because before and after that quote he's talking about the flood too. As for why he is glad too see them, he likes to studie them, and his task is to activate halo (or make others do that) if things go wrong (and he likes to do that, obviousely). And he hasn't done something for more then 100.000 years (now he has finally something to do) and has become crazy over that time.

but why? and the flood dont reproduce like you think; they feed off other living beings and take them over and create more potential infection forms. think of it this way: where would they get the food in order to "survive to reproduce"?

remember, they were being kept in study. when GS says "their survival as a race depended on it", tryin to tell me that he means the flood seems wrong. why would the flood need to SURVIVE? GS was built to make sure they are wiped out. and there's still the fact that he says keeping them was an "error", no one has yet to explain that.

if you put those two quotes together, you will see that he's talking about the forerunner

and another piece of evidence: "to find a record of all OUR lost time. human history, is it?"

no one has yet to explain this

but im getting tired of ppl just refuting my evidence that i dig up, and showing now evidence of their own. can somebody prove the forerunner ARENT humans? with EVIDENCE??

  • 07.12.2006 7:01 AM PDT
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I don't think anyone is giving Bungie enough credit. If everyone here at the forums goes on and on about Forerunners are human (I think I've seen at lest a million different posts), wouldn't that just kill the whole shock factor when it gets revealed in Halo 3? I think that the team has something up their sleeve and we're all gonna look back at this and laugh...

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anyone got actual proof that the forerunners arent humans? ( or at least ancestors)

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the forunner havnt actually said that the humans are direct decendants.

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cortana has access to all of the halo data right? she ahsnt found anything on humans, or i dotn think she ahs..has she?

  • 07.12.2006 7:26 AM PDT

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xbladespartan who r u and how dod u know me ad there is no clue loookin round my desk. i bet ur an old guy who has no idea who i am!

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I don't care that people think that humans are the Forerunners, I just hate how people think it's FACT. From now on, can we please refer to this as a theory? Until Bungie confirms it, I'm going to keep an open mind.

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Posted by: _Wheels03
I don't care that people think that humans are the Forerunners, I just hate how people think it's FACT. From now on, can we please refer to this as a theory? Until Bungie confirms it, I'm going to keep an open mind.


you at least confirm as a fact that theres a CONNECTION, dont you>?

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Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
you at least confirm as a fact that theres a CONNECTION, dont you>?

Yeah, I can say that there's some convincing evidence, but nothing's set in stone, at least for me. Like I said, Bungie is full of surprises.

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  • 07.12.2006 7:44 AM PDT

Quick as a razor, sharp as a bullet.

technically the prophets are the covie's passage with the "gods" so if the prophets say it, they think it is from the gods. and the oracles (which means messenger of god) are friendly to humans, not wanting to destroy them.

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technically the prophets are the covie's passage with the "gods" so if the prophets say it, they think it is from the gods. and the oracles (which means messenger of god) are friendly to humans, not wanting to destroy them.

So I guess this ending isn't too far from the truth, huh? :D

  • 07.12.2006 7:53 AM PDT

Quick as a razor, sharp as a bullet.

=) im so happy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Lets just saythe humans are forerunners, Truth is ghey, and the elites will slit his throat when they find his lil' secret. ok? MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!! :D

  • 07.12.2006 8:03 AM PDT

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