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Subject: Forrunner all just a big lie? *EDIT-Part 2 included!!*
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could the forrunner be just a big lie. what if they aren't the guys who protected the universe form the flood. I was wondering is it possible that the Flood built the halos. It just occured to me while eating lunch, why did the forrunner build something that killed everything BUT the flood? They are still alive and kicking, so i was wondering what if the forrunner were the bad guys. They were liek the covvies takign over the universe at a time. but the flood used to be a proper alien race, but then turned into parasites just to survive the onslaught of the forrunner. They saw a halo built by the forrunner for some other purpose, and then somehow manipulated the forrunner to think that the flood had to be killed only by starving them. Thus the halos would kill everything, apart form the flood for a while. If this theory si correct, then it means that halo is a weapon, a weapon fro the flood to kill everything and then starve themselves out. I think that gravemind has a aprt in this too.. He seems smart enough to manipulate the arbiter and chief and lie. he says in halo 2
"this ring will make us brothers" brothers as in, flood, he was intending on taking high charity right? if he was made of enemies, there must be some forerunner, thus meaning he had info on foreunner ships..possibly. Grab the ship on high charity and take off to the ark and activate all the Halos again..? THIS IS JUST A THEORY, yet to be proven so i'm gonna go get soem evidence, meanwhile Discuss.

PART 2

After many a discussion with my freidns on bungie.net forums i have come to a new conclusion:

The forrunner were an onlslaught like the coveneant, then the flood stepped in, they abolished the forunner slowly, the forunner were then forced to stop them, they faught and faught till the flood became so scarce they evolved into a parasite. Showing no mercy the flood manipulated the forrunner to mould there already made prison made "halo" which was used to hold rampant forrunner, to hold the flood, while they figured a way to kill them. This was the part wen GS343 said "after finiding all other methods had failed" or something liek that they activated the halos, but what i think happened is..:
-The flood knew they coudl survive for hundreds of thousands of years, and as they were a mere species trying to survive they wished to be left alone
-From what we know of gravemind he is very knowledgable, so i reckon he was many of the "higher" flood, who sued to be at the top of the heirachy, and commanded the flood.
-Gravemind and others like him asked the flood to be resilient while in halo(which they allowed the fourrunner to take them there) so that they were nto defeated, But how can you be resilient against new inventions?
-Now this is were part 2 kiks off properly, as gravemind and the flood are very manipulative I think that he managed to get one of the forerunner scientists to pass him information..how? by infecting him ofcourse, but not disfiguring him or anything.
-now that the flood can survive most things the forunner chuck at them, slowly gravemind made the forerunner coem to think that the only way to kill the flood is to starve them, and so halo went from a prison and research facility to a an intergalactic system for chaos.
-After the halos were fitted to destroy all sentient..balalala, the flood attacked, gathering as much calcium rich hosts as possible, before the forerunner activated the halos and thus the flood slept, till covies came and woke them. Gravemind was able to communicate with the other "sentient" one on isntallation 04, which we never see.. via the system that delta halo sends a signal to the toher halos to go to standby mode.
-once the sentient one was awoken on 04, he awoke all the others and thus gravemind was awake along with his 7 other brothers.

[Edited on 7/12/2006]

  • 07.12.2006 4:22 AM PDT
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Yep, Bungie's noses are out the window now.

  • 07.12.2006 4:24 AM PDT

Wiplash ll7, bow chica bow wow

sounds good but i doubt it somehow

but it would be a good twist

  • 07.12.2006 4:27 AM PDT
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thanks i doubt its true as well, but have you ever seen "under world" were the wolves at first seem liek the bad guys, but then you find out the vampires are. I was wondering fi that were true in halo, and the forerunner seem like some really cool and pacifist race, which im starting to doubt. If you think about it, the Flood and Human race are very very similar. Both have strong connections to the forerunner and also, all they are doign now is trying to survive.

  • 07.12.2006 4:31 AM PDT

Wiplash ll7, bow chica bow wow

ye i agree
as bungie not that there are copyritin cos there not but with all stories they got some ideas from somewhere and the chances are a while back they saw a film like say underworld and they thought how can we bring that into halo3? it makes perfect sence

  • 07.12.2006 4:33 AM PDT
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now i wish i can make my sister understand that..

  • 07.12.2006 4:39 AM PDT

Wiplash ll7, bow chica bow wow

hahahahahahahahha crazy fool

  • 07.12.2006 4:49 AM PDT
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you dotn know how hard it is..oh wait she only plays MP, aww well she gots a week to play halo 1 and 2 and read all three books...PLAY!!! im not doing any co op, the ebst way to elarn the story is by doing it all yourself

  • 07.12.2006 4:52 AM PDT
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well anyway back on topic i figured soemthing new out. If the forruner were actually trying to stop the flood, then why did they leave that part on halo for research, surely they knew someone would open it, and if the activated the halos, why didnt they sterilise and remove the flood from the research section, coem to think of it, whats so special about, how coem they never died?

  • 07.12.2006 4:57 AM PDT

Wiplash ll7, bow chica bow wow

maybe the flood was too much for the forerunners and the forerunners were consumed by the flood and on H3 will we see them?????????

  • 07.12.2006 4:59 AM PDT
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and laugh in thier faces "hahaaha you got pwned" i would seriously do that, maybe we see an alter ego flood, one thats flood soemtimes and soemtimes forerunner. This being would then direct us in the right way and then become a liability, at the end of the game we find a cure to the flood, and we see this ancient forunner in his true form? who then wants to kill everyone, plus five mroe levels were your hunting him, then we almost die, and then boom, arby saves chief's ass..

  • 07.12.2006 5:02 AM PDT
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To play or not to play....

The Halo rings do not kill the Flood. They kill their food. The Forerunners thought the Flood would starve to death. However the Flood seem to have simply gone dormant and remained that way for ages until disturbed by the Covenant. Then the Flood woke up and were back in business.

We may never get rid of the Flood.

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  • 07.12.2006 5:06 AM PDT
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exactly..so what hundreds of thousands of years isnt enough to starve them? so for all we know they seem almost invincible..what ways could we coem up to kill them? i was thinking a sorta formula that destroys thier ability to become sentient..o wait if it destroys all sentient life, does that eman they aren't sentient? surely if you ahve tham much fire power, you can awell..burn them? i mean if you knwo the location fo flood, using the power of halo concentrated you can burn the flood? literraly..

  • 07.12.2006 5:11 AM PDT
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To play or not to play....

I am thinking the only way to control the the flood is to either defeat or make peace with the Gravemind.

Otherwise the Flood seem to be here to stay.

On another note if the Halo rings were activated the first Halo will not fire as is it broken.

  • 07.12.2006 5:20 AM PDT
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also if they live on calcium and contain calcium, there are many substances such and acids that will dissolve that calcium and turn it to other materilas..bring on the H2SO4

  • 07.12.2006 5:21 AM PDT

Wiplash ll7, bow chica bow wow

H2SO4 hmmmmmm sodium hydroxide now who the hell are u?

  • 07.12.2006 5:42 AM PDT
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FORERUNNERS A LIE?!?!?! i was thinking more like a myth..... or a legend, something that they have heard of but the only way they know of their existence is because of ancient scrolls, or something of that matter.

  • 07.12.2006 5:43 AM PDT
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lol

  • 07.12.2006 7:19 AM PDT
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H2SO4 hmmmmmm sodium hydroxide now who the hell are u?

your supervisor at work experience

  • 07.12.2006 7:19 AM PDT
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HMmmmmm i dought it

  • 07.12.2006 7:19 AM PDT
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lol so do we, but everything we doubt may come true, its just a speculation, but hey it would be seriously cool if it were true.

  • 07.12.2006 7:21 AM PDT
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hmm something else, if the Flood are just trying to live, surely gravemind will act like that, as if he is savage and bloodthirsty, yet he seems calm and knowledgable. I think the flood want to do soemkthign, but i dont know what.

  • 07.12.2006 7:25 AM PDT

Wiplash ll7, bow chica bow wow

i dnt know that either same way i dnt know ur name!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 07.12.2006 7:34 AM PDT
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lol, sorry wip, you've just been PUNK'D

  • 07.12.2006 7:37 AM PDT

Wiplash ll7, bow chica bow wow

how can ye b punked when i neva beleived u hahahahahaha u were just screwing wid me n i cud telll hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

  • 07.12.2006 7:42 AM PDT

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