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Subject: Africa is on Installation 05........I wonder why
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Posted by: GezaB
Its just a co-incidence they look the same as Africa and Asia.


big co-incidence if alien life copies how our land features are....Big co-incidence if you ask me.

GOod Job spotting it out Iceman

  • 07.13.2006 9:02 AM PDT

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either bungie couldn't be arsed/didn't have the time to create a new continent shape (not likely) or there are so many shapes on planets some must look the same. a bit like life on earth

  • 07.13.2006 9:03 AM PDT
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hell, maybe all the stuff that takes place on 05 is respective to the location of all the stuff that takes place on earth

kinda like you leave one are and show up in the same area

  • 07.13.2006 9:06 AM PDT

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So that's what Africa looks like! I never knew that..

  • 07.13.2006 9:07 AM PDT
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Hmm...symbolism maybe?


care to elaborate?
Perhaps this is a visual metaphor for the importance of Africa in the Forerunner history and Halo storyline?

Thats exactly what I mean! The trailer takes place in Africa near New Mombasa, so the reason they put Africa there is because the Forerunner structure you see in the trailer is important.

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maybe new mombassa's location is where inst. 05's control rooms are? or somthin

  • 07.13.2006 9:11 AM PDT

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the space elvator built over it? for symbolic "what's in the city centre? a huge tower and a key to a superweapon" (sorry about the reference)

  • 07.13.2006 9:14 AM PDT
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Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
Yo guys

something ive noticed for a while, but just decided to post this now

so anyway if you notice the cutscene "Helljumpers" youll see chiefs pod over what appears to be Africa:

Africa on Inst. 05

and for those who are skeptical, look at this actual map of Africa:

Here is an actual Map of Africa

I only wanna know one thing: Why make another Africa? Why mimic the structure of Earth right down to a T?

well we know the forerunner chose earth as the ark. Apparently they chose to mimic our continental structures as well. Why would they do this? Who knows.



i think bungie just got lazy :P

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My theory, there is no symbolism between the Halo 3 trailer and the Africa shaped land mass on Installation 5. I think Bungie, since they were running behind on Halo 2, didn't have time to make their own designs for land on Installation 5 so they just cut and paste a pic of Africa. Kind of an easter egg but nothing more.

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lazy?? LoL that is bungies style....

but why would frankie say " Im tired of this. lets render a completly accurate, right down to the coastal line, level of Africa"

instead of "Im hungry. whens kpaul gettin back with my wonton soup? oh, inst. 05? plop some green land in there. i dont care how obscure you make it"

LoL, what im sayin is that bungie put it there for us to see it. otherwise they wouldnt have even shown the re-entry. its just too accurate for them to plop down and not have it relate to the story, at least thats what i think

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Yo guys

something ive noticed for a while, but just decided to post this now

so anyway if you notice the cutscene "Helljumpers" youll see chiefs pod over what appears to be Africa:

Africa on Inst. 05

and for those who are skeptical, look at this actual map of Africa:

Here is an actual Map of Africa

I only wanna know one thing: Why make another Africa? Why mimic the structure of Earth right down to a T?

well we know the forerunner chose earth as the ark. Apparently they chose to mimic our continental structures as well. Why would they do this? Who knows.



i think bungie just got lazy :P
I dont think Bungie...one of the most succesful game companies in America...just gets lazy...

  • 07.13.2006 9:24 AM PDT
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It would make sense that the Forerunners would have Slarty Bardfast type continent designer. But instead of his specialty being in fjords it was in savanahs and deserts.

  • 07.13.2006 9:36 AM PDT

Bungie seems to love eggs.

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Hears my input of it...

Since H3 is about how the covenant find a mysterious item in Africa, and H3 story line was done before the launch of H2, isn't it possiable that Bungie decided to make that scene in conjunction of what will happen in H3? It seems that the forrunner were our ancestors, forefathers whatever, and the forerunner made huge technolgical land marks. But they didn't bulid the Halo's until they found the Flood. And found out that the only way to stop them was to destroy the universe. And we all know that happened once. What ever was left of the forerunner, became the humans we have in present day Halo. It just so happens as a fail safe they install this one devise that activates all the Halo's for simultaneous destruction on earth in africa were human life began.

Here's another clue, when playing H2 listen to what cortana has to say when you play on Installation 5 while your in the underwater submersable elevator.


Just my input, then again i could be noob...

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Hears my input of it...

Since H3 is about how the covenant find a mysterious item in Africa, and H3 story line was done before the launch of H2, isn't it possiable that Bungie decided to make that scene in conjunction of what will happen in H3? It seems that the forrunner were our ancestors, forefathers whatever, and the forerunner made huge technolgical land marks. But they didn't bulid the Halo's until they found the Flood. And found out that the only way to stop them was to destroy the universe. And we all know that happened once. What ever was left of the forerunner, became the humans we have in present day Halo. It just so happens as a fail safe they install this one devise that activates all the Halo's for simultaneous destruction on earth in africa were human life began.

Here's another clue, when playing H2 listen to what cortana has to say when you play on Installation 5 while your in the underwater submersable elevator.


Just my input, then again i could be noob...


WeLCOME TO Halo 3 Forum !!!

youre very articulate! im iceman btw, local forum crazy-ass

nice post, one that is pretty insightful and makes a lot of sense

  • 07.13.2006 9:49 AM PDT
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Thanks man, glad to be here.

I just wandered in here after I saw the trailer and had the urge to talk in the forums...

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Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
Yo guys

something ive noticed for a while, but just decided to post this now

so anyway if you notice the cutscene "Helljumpers" youll see chiefs pod over what appears to be Africa:

Africa on Inst. 05

and for those who are skeptical, look at this actual map of Africa:

Here is an actual Map of Africa

I only wanna know one thing: Why make another Africa? Why mimic the structure of Earth right down to a T?

well we know the forerunner chose earth as the ark. Apparently they chose to mimic our continental structures as well. Why would they do this? Who knows.



Perhaps the forerunners originally evolved on earth...have you ever read Ringworld? It's rather like halo (written in 1970 so its not imitating) but instead of a small ring randomly orbiting a gas giant, it is a giant ring 93 million miles in radius spinning around a sun. There are like 4 books in the series. Anyway, in the first novel, the main characters discover that there are maps of many planets within their known space who's topography had been mapped directly on to the ringworld, and later, when they landed on a few of these, they discovered that the inhabitants of the 1:1 scale maps were in fact the species of origin from those worlds. Perhaps the forerunners did something similar.

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Possiable, but not probable. Just look at the atmospheric design of Halo resembels Earth and Earth only. Why? Because no Human organism can live in any such atmosphere(except for MC cause he has a cool suit). Halo was built and maintained by the Fore Runners in an attempt to destroy the Flood. After failing to destroy the Flood they built Oracles such as 343 Guilty Spark to maintain the rings long after they died.


It seems that the fore runners and humans are no different. They are the same. Just described as different beings by the oracles.

  • 07.13.2006 10:05 AM PDT
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Posted by: SquantoTheInjin
Possiable, but not probable. Just look at the atmospheric design of Halo resembels Earth and Earth only. Why? Because no Human organism can live in any such atmosphere(except for MC cause he has a cool suit). Halo was built and maintained by the Fore Runners in an attempt to destroy the Flood. After failing to destroy the Flood they built Oracles such as 343 Guilty Spark to maintain the rings long after they died.


It seems that the fore runners and humans are no different. They are the same. Just described as different beings by the oracles.



I agree.....however, i don't think they are exactly the same. If they were, then 343 and Penitent Tangent would call them forerunners. They're called reclaimers because they're like the forerunners children. I think the forerunners engineered humans in their own image, possibly with slight improvements, and then they programmed the relevant data into the oracles so that they would know what humans were (reclaimers).

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you both have valid points

i belive the humans were the forerunner, but lost that title simply cuz they are now the descendants, or reclaimers

  • 07.13.2006 10:13 AM PDT

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Posted by: SquantoTheInjin
Possiable, but not probable. Just look at the atmospheric design of Halo resembels Earth and Earth only. Why? Because no Human organism can live in any such atmosphere(except for MC cause he has a cool suit). Halo was built and maintained by the Fore Runners in an attempt to destroy the Flood. After failing to destroy the Flood they built Oracles such as 343 Guilty Spark to maintain the rings long after they died.


It seems that the fore runners and humans are no different. They are the same. Just described as different beings by the oracles.



I agree.....however, i don't think they are exactly the same. If they were, then 343 and Penitent Tangent would call them forerunners. They're called reclaimers because they're like the forerunners children. I think the forerunners engineered humans in their own image, possibly with slight improvements, and then they programmed the relevant data into the oracles so that they would know what humans were (reclaimers).


I have got to disagree with you on this one. Forerunner is a covenant name. Not something that the oracles would have been programmed to call their creators. Now if you think about the title 'reclaimer' it makes more sense that he is talking about his creators return to RE-claim what was lost. So that would include the rings, the oracles. and any sort of technology lost over time. So basically I think that the humans and the forerunners are exactly the same. You do have some valid points though. I just look at them in a different way.

  • 07.13.2006 10:27 AM PDT
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Yeah, I noticed that as well.
Actually, if you look closely in Ascension, there's a land mass upring that looks like canada and alaska.

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  • 07.13.2006 10:35 AM PDT

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Unless there is a helluva lot of atmospheric distortion, its not Africa. Roughly similar in shape, but I vote no.

The scientifically-minded people know that the Red Sea was formed as a result of a rift valley, formed when two tectonic plates seperate from each other. Not by giant mega-tsunami.

  • 07.13.2006 10:45 AM PDT

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Unless there is a helluva lot of atmospheric distortion, its not Africa. Roughly similar in shape, but I vote no.

The scientifically-minded people know that the Red Sea was formed as a result of a rift valley, formed when two tectonic plates seperate from each other. Not by giant mega-tsunami.


I am not sure where the whole mega tsunami thing came from, but I think in H2 when you are on the gondola and going after Regret, Cortana goes of on how the formation of the body of water that you are riding across might have been formed, and she says that it couldn't have been made by volcanic activity and wonders if maybe it was made intentionally.

  • 07.13.2006 10:55 AM PDT

Strange evolution how people have come to believe
That we are it's greatest achievement
We're barely, we're just a collection of cells
Overrating themselves

The mega-tsunami thing came from here:

Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
I can also see the bottom, West side of "Europe"..look directly to the right of the bottom of the HEV..notice the Red Sea..the one that was parted (or seperated via Mega tsunami for those non believers) in Egypt to help the Jews Escape ;-)


I agree that the land masses and water bodies on the Halos are not naturally formed, I just dont think they were meant to mimic the continents of Earth.

I do reserve the right to retract that statement should I proven wrong in Halo 3.

  • 07.13.2006 10:59 AM PDT