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Posted by: Tedi Slayer


The way that "Pros" piss me off is that they always say crap like "Vehicle noobs" or "Jumpers" and idiotic crap like that. How the hell is it noobish to jump while you're being shot at?!? Jumping is easier than hell, so why not jump when someone's trying to snipe you?


Jump when they shoot rockets at you, strafe when being sniped at. A halfway good sniper will hit a jumper every time. When you jump your oponent knows exactly where you will land and you can't change course in mid-air. Bang you're dead.

Jumping in sniper games is useful if you want to hide behind a hill and jump up to make a shot, but if you're in the open, it will get you killed.

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Posted by: Tedi Slayer
Actually hitting someone with a rocket and killing them requires some skill now that the netcode's all screwy.

You see, the flamethrower may be overpowered, but the range is horrid, that's why it's overpowered. You just need to get it out of close range maps such as Longest and you're ready to kick some ass without getting torched.

The way that "Pros" piss me off is that they always say crap like "Vehicle noobs" or "Jumpers" and idiotic crap like that. How the hell is it noobish to jump while you're being shot at?!? Jumping is easier than hell, so why not jump when someone's trying to snipe you? And "Vehicle noobs", that's just retarded, if you're a real pro, then you would've sniped me out of that 'Hog before the equation of Rear bumper+You=Dead happened. Besides, isn't being a "Vehicle noob" just another term for someone who exploits vehicles to their maximum potential? Not to be arrogant, but you should see me in a tank, just call me the "Tank sniper". And people who do call people noobs are (Strange Yell)s who have nothing better to do than put people down or just generally be (Strange Yell)s. Just because we are noobs, doesn't mean that you have to call us one every two seconds.


actually, when you jump, when you land, your still for a little bit and then is when most snipers kill you, just saying and rls take skills only in maps with open places like sidewinder, blood gulch, infinity, ice fields, death island? and on any other map they are just really for noobs... noobs that go and get them the first thing after they spawn, then get a fuel rod go get an invisibility, an overshield and camp them all again, punks

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GRR your post is just going to turn people against eachother...

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Please, stop double posting, Majinal.

Damn, we fed the troll.

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Posted by: Majinalchemy
i challenge you to a banshee fight.

You mean a fight where 2 people enter banshees and fly around in circles around each other trying to hit? Banshee fights suck - face it.

Anyone who uses a rocket launcher on any infantry - but not vehicles - is a noob.

Anyone who all they can do is throw frags at the floor to get frags is a noob (face it, its just a rocket launcher with no reloads and 4 rockets).

Anyone who kills players by running them over, or hovering high above bombarding with fuel rod gun is a noob.

Anyone who plays using a FUEL ROD GUN or FLAMETHROWER is the ultimate noob. Therefore anyone who hosts or plays non-classic games should be considered noobs.

Anyone who boasts while making cheap kills is most definately a noob.

The same goes for nubs (players who aren't noobs but act like them and therefore cannot gain any skill).

And to the original poster: Get a spine jackass, use a bloody sniper rifle to pick off a pistol holder from a range. Or get up close with a shotgun - hell it doesn't take a -blam!- genius.

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Posted by: ConMan577
Posted by: fastmatt
any weapon actually takes skill.


Incorrect. Pointing a rocket at your opponent and shooting takes no skill.
And randomly lobbing FRG shots into the air and hoping it hits someone is not skill either.
I forgot about the flamer too. Its so overpowered and cheap, that all you need to do is knock out their sheilds, and the burn takes care of the rest. Totally lame.
Thats why im trying to figure out mapmaking, so I can finally take the power of the flamer, and drop it to near nothing.


1. Rocketsniping and rodspammin (not spwnkilling which also takes practise in some exstent) often takes more skill then coordinating hand and eye which is what sniping and pistolling is all about. If you want to play a game where you use 4 different weapons play cs, if you can handle more options and a larger pressure to stay one step ahead of your oponent stay halo, it isnt more to it.
Gl on gettin your maps in the loop btw.



Posted by: The Medic
Posted by: Majinalchemy
i challenge you to a banshee fight.

You mean a fight where 2 people enter banshees and fly around in circles around each other trying to hit? Banshee fights suck - face it.

Anyone who uses a rocket launcher on any infantry - but not vehicles - is a noob.

Anyone who all they can do is throw frags at the floor to get frags is a noob (face it, its just a rocket launcher with no reloads and 4 rockets).

Anyone who kills players by running them over, or hovering high above bombarding with fuel rod gun is a noob.

Anyone who plays using a FUEL ROD GUN or FLAMETHROWER is the ultimate noob. Therefore anyone who hosts or plays non-classic games should be considered noobs.

Anyone who boasts while making cheap kills is most definately a noob.

The same goes for nubs (players who aren't noobs but act like them and therefore cannot gain any skill).

And to the original poster: Get a spine jackass, use a bloody sniper rifle to pick off a pistol holder from a range. Or get up close with a shotgun - hell it doesn't take a -blam!- genius.


So with other words u can define a noob by single incidents? it is not about what you do but how you do it and what result it gets you. By pointing out single ways how to play you have defined this as the right path by generalisation, this is however how a noob thinks a "pro" knows that adaption is all its about.

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Posted by: Blackeye

Thank GOODNESS the pistol has been removed from Halo 2. Because of that, I should be able to enjoy Halo 2 for the PC, as I can own people with the Banshee, and I won't have to see anymore "pros".

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So, basicly, you're a shee whore. Nice way of backing up your argument :/ Frankly, I hate the fact that there is no pistol/good pistol in H2. It sucks t3h b1g 1.

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Posted by: Paradox621
I simply get pissed off by the fact that anytime you actually start doing well in a Banshee, someone will scream NO SHEES N**B, just because you are completely owning them.


I get that too. especially with a ghost. Especially from tank drivers and banshee pilots when I take em out. The point is, that there are ways that vehicles can be used to get a lot of kills without actually working for it. Such as banshee ramming and spawn camping. Those are n**b tactics.

I believe there are some old threads that document the best tactics to use while in a vehicle. And they work.

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You mean a fight where 2 people enter banshees and fly around in circles around each other trying to hit? Banshee fights suck - face it.

Anyone who uses a rocket launcher on any infantry - but not vehicles - is a noob.

Anyone who all they can do is throw frags at the floor to get frags is a noob (face it, its just a rocket launcher with no reloads and 4 rockets).

Anyone who kills players by running them over, or hovering high above bombarding with fuel rod gun is a noob.

Anyone who plays using a FUEL ROD GUN or FLAMETHROWER is the ultimate noob. Therefore anyone who hosts or plays non-classic games should be considered noobs.

Anyone who boasts while making cheap kills is most definately a noob.

The same goes for nubs (players who aren't noobs but act like them and therefore cannot gain any skill).

And to the original poster: Get a spine jackass, use a bloody sniper rifle to pick off a pistol holder from a range. Or get up close with a shotgun - hell it doesn't take a -blam!- genius.

Banshee fights take skill, nimrod. And frag grenades are not rockets. Grenades are much weaker than rockets. These single events doesn't make a person a noob. Just because I ran over people while on my way to the other base does not make me a hog noob. Please, those statements were quite retarded.

I've been called a "SHEE F*G" when I used the banshee the way it's meant to be used and didn't run people over and ram my aircraft into the ground like real "SHEE F*G"s do. Just because you use a certain vehicle or a weapon does not make you a [Insert weapon or vehicle here] noob.

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  • 07.14.2006 9:24 AM PDT
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Banshees are pretty easy to take down.

The rocket launcher needs skill. You can kill yourself with one, y'know. ;\

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Banshees are easy to take down. Especially banshee noobs. Rockets, plasma grenades, and shotguns > banshees. :D

  • 07.14.2006 9:40 AM PDT

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Posted by: The Medic
Posted by: Majinalchemy
i challenge you to a banshee fight.

You mean a fight where 2 people enter banshees and fly around in circles around each other trying to hit? Banshee fights suck - face it.

When you're the noob who loses, ya they suck.

Anyone who uses a rocket launcher on any infantry - but not vehicles - is a noob. And make sure you use the right fork to eat your salad, Miss Manners.

Anyone who all they can do is throw frags at the floor to get frags is a noob (face it, its just a rocket launcher with no reloads and 4 rockets). Anyone who steps on a live 'nade is a noob. Just kidding, we all step on them from time to time. But 'nades can take some skill.

Anyone who kills players by running them over, or hovering high above bombarding with fuel rod gun is a noob. So if you run people over in a 'shee, you're a noob, and if you stay high and use the artilery, you're a noob. So when can you use a 'shee and how may you use it?

Anyone who plays using a FUEL ROD GUN or FLAMETHROWER is the ultimate noob. Therefore anyone who hosts or plays non-classic games should be considered noobs. So, you haven't figured out how to take out someone using a flamethrower or an FRG, huh?

Anyone who boasts while making cheap kills is most definately a noob. We agree on something!

And to the original poster: Get a spine jackass, use a bloody sniper rifle to pick off a pistol holder from a range. Or get up close with a shotgun - hell it doesn't take a -blam!- genius. And we agree on another!

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The pistol has a bigger bullet than the AR.

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The Medic is acting like a troll. Don't feed him.

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I didn't say banshee fights took no skill, I just said they suck - especially when you go round in a circle.

Your the kind of person who stays above and bombards the guys down below aren't ya? Where no gun - pistol, sniper or even RL (because you'd just dodge) can get you. One word: noob!

Though Rockets take some skill, its a bit hard to dodge from 2 feet away don't you think?

Nade spamming sucks

Flamers = sniping
Frags = hell, sniping again


Posted by: Master Kim
The Medic is acting like a troll. Don't feed him.


Well your acting immature and like a spammer. :p

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I think you're being aggressive here, is what I'm trying to say, really. Who are you to decide whether someone or not is a noob because they do something? Sure, you can call someone a noob if all they do is run people over with a warthog, but if that person runs people over but for most of the game isn't in a vehicle, that doesn't make him or her a noob.

  • 07.14.2006 11:45 AM PDT

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Posted by: Blackeye
It really pisses me off in HPC when people think they're all great because they use pistols. ANYONE CAN USE THE PISTOL IF THEY HAVE TO. You don't need any sort of special training/skill to use the pistol. You point and you click a few times, and then you kill another player.

Thank GOODNESS the pistol has been removed from Halo 2. Because of that, I should be able to enjoy Halo 2 for the PC, as I can own people with the Banshee, and I won't have to see anymore "pros".

Just my opinion, ftw.

To all the "pros" out there - consider this your warning. UNLESS U STOP UZING PISTEL AND USE NORMEL WAPON, I will destroy you all.


Keep using the Banshee, I'll keep shooting you down with my pistol.

Your post is beyond stupid.

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Aggressive? Yeah, probably an a bit...

...But I am merely stating what sort of things are considered low by most players. There are always actions that will label someone as lame or a noob.

Most of the tactics listed included "1 hit kill" type situations, which would sort of prove no skill - as you can't survive someone who'll have the chance to shoot back.

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Yeah this guy is really pissing me off. He thinks that everything that is not his tactic is a n**bs way of doing things.

Oh yeah and for everyone Noob is considered a bad word and may be taken offencivly to some people. Please stop.

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Do you deny that nade spamming and close quarters rocket launcher attacks are lame?

Well, I didn't expect basic debating [cough] reasons [/cough] from a typical Halo forum browser.

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Posted by: The Medic
I didn't say banshee fights took no skill, I just said they suck - especially when you go round in a circle.

Your the kind of person who stays above and bombards the guys down below aren't ya? Where no gun - pistol, sniper or even RL (because you'd just dodge) can get you. One word: noob!

Though Rockets take some skill, its a bit hard to dodge from 2 feet away don't you think?

Nade spamming sucks

Flamers = sniping
Frags = hell, sniping again


Posted by: Master Kim
The Medic is acting like a troll. Don't feed him.


Well your acting immature and like a spammer. :p

Actually, I rarely get in a 'shee, they bore me, (I prefer to take out the 'shees), but the guy who stays high and blasts you with the fuel rod gun is using it propperly. He presents a challenge.– he's not a noob. Your team should have it's own 'shees, use it to go after him. Did they steal your 'shees because you were too "pro" to get in one? If they did, that makes your team the "noobs".

It sounds like you have very specific ideas about how the game should be played: Anyone who makes it hard for you to kill them, or finds an easy way to kill you is a noob. Guess what? They're not in it to make it easy for you!

Imagine calling someone a noob because they don't stand still when you're sniping them or because they don't run in straight lines, (hey noob, you affraid of bullets or somethin'?). that would be rediculous. It's just as rediculous to complain when someone uses a weapon or vehicle to bring about the outcome they desire.
Oh, and Master Kim, some people like threads where things are debated, even hotly debated.

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Posted by: Frnksnbns
Posted by: Blackeye
It really pisses me off in HPC when people think they're all great because they use pistols. ANYONE CAN USE THE PISTOL IF THEY HAVE TO. You don't need any sort of special training/skill to use the pistol. You point and you click a few times, and then you kill another player.

Thank GOODNESS the pistol has been removed from Halo 2. Because of that, I should be able to enjoy Halo 2 for the PC, as I can own people with the Banshee, and I won't have to see anymore "pros".

Just my opinion, ftw.

To all the "pros" out there - consider this your warning. UNLESS U STOP UZING PISTEL AND USE NORMEL WAPON, I will destroy you all.


Keep using the Banshee, I'll keep shooting you down with my pistol.

Your post is beyond stupid.


Har har har. So you admit it - you use the pistol.

Could you take a Banshee down with a shotgun? With an AR? With a flamethrower? >_<

People brag about getting so many kills in games, and that's because they use their precious pistol. It annoys the hell out of me. I use a combination of weapons, not just one cheap weapon. I say, ban all the pistol users.

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Sorry, I'm afraid that your 10sk isn't "pro". Wow, nice assumptions by the way, a "pro Halo PC" player isn't always about, "YES PISTOL! MUAHHAHAH!" It's more about using tactics to overcome the other team and being smart about every weapon you use, instead of using only one weapon which isn't very good. A good Halo player is good at every weapon, w00t!

  • 07.14.2006 1:40 PM PDT

Posted by: Ryukage
What? Play a game? FOR FUN???
This concept of fun confuses and infuriates me!

Posted by: SimonJester753

Actually, I rarely get in a 'shee, they bore me, (I prefer to take out the 'shees), but the guy who stays high and blasts you with the fuel rod gun is using it propperly. He presents a challenge.– he's not a noob. Your team should have it's own 'shees, use it to go after him.


Yes. Banshees are for the air. They belong in the sky.
Think about it. You know how dumb it would be if the US air force took their jets and tried to run someone on the ground over in vein?
I don't use the shee, its nice if I want to avoid ground combat, but I suck when it comes to fighting in the air. But there is one thing I don't do. And thats try to run people over. I actually use the weapons that are on the Banshee to kill someone. Like it should be used.

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Posted By:Frnksnbns
Keep using the Banshee, I'll keep shooting you down with my pistol.

Your post is beyond stupid.


Posted By:BlackEyes
Har har har. So you admit it - you use the pistol.

Could you take a Banshee down with a shotgun? With an AR? With a flamethrower? >_<

People brag about getting so many kills in games, and that's because they use their precious pistol. It annoys the hell out of me. I use a combination of weapons, not just one cheap weapon. I say, ban all the pistol users.


Wow u really are something. Killing a Banshee with a shotgun has to be one of the easiest things, provided the banshee is trying to run you donw. Shotgun is two sshot kill on banshee at clsoe range and flame thrower is the same way. And killing it was a AR is easy to just continuesly shoot the banshee.

And using the "Preciouse Pistol" to kill you that probley becasue your not strifing right. Becuase doging a pistol is pretty easy if you know how to do it. And then you get into up close and personal fights were your both using a AR and the person who gets the kill is the one who hits you the most. Thats what makes Halo so fun.

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