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I have an interesting idea for Halo 3.

Some of you may like it, some of you may not.

But I'm ready for any kind of criticism and/or praise...you can flame all you want. I'm used to it. :)

What if...

Just what if...

...We couldn't use the energy sword in halo 3. Just think about it. Think about how scary elites were in halo 1. Didn't you run away in fear when you saw a gold or stealth elite rush at you with a blade dripping with plasmic energy? In halo 2, this great feeling is somewhat there, but not as much; it's lacking in Halo 2 because the player has the ability to use the energy sword as well, and it makes the elites look like morons. The energy sword doesn't seem as swift or punishing in Halo 2. I think it's because we can use it.

I just think that in halo 1, the sword seemed much more frightening because A) the four-jawed beast is rushing at me with it, B) the sword actually had a deep sapphire glow to it, and C) we weren't powerful enough to harness that magnificent energy.

So what if it was in halo 3, but could not be used by the player? Just to enhance the fact that elites are supposed to be deadly, I mean. It would also make elites more unique.

What do you guys think?

  • 07.13.2006 9:10 PM PDT

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They'r different weapons in both..Halo was a "Plasma Sword" which was a one-time-use thing..Halo 2 is an "Energy Sword" which is an upgrade, and is rechargeable, and has no fail safe.

I donno about that.I didn't like the Energy sword in campaign mode..I was always afraid of when I should use it (same with Sniper, and Rockets..) in Halo 2...it all feels so...different..than Halo.

Maybe make the Sword in Campaign thedisposable one, and only the Arbiter can use it?

It should stay a multiplayer weapon..

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  • 07.13.2006 9:11 PM PDT
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They're different?

Oh yeah, I remember. Well, in that case, what if the plasma sword replaced the energy sword?

  • 07.13.2006 9:13 PM PDT
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Oh yeah if you didnt get that feeling try Halo 2 on Legendary, I guarantee you will get the feeling again, Sword weilding Elites or everywhere they bus out swords all the time!

  • 07.13.2006 9:14 PM PDT
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Oh yeah if you didnt get that feeling try Halo 2 on Legendary, I guarantee you will get the feeling again, Sword weilding Elites or everywhere they bus out swords all the time!
Yeah, I know, but what's the point of Master Chief can use it too? My point was that the player shouldn't be able to wield an energy sword; it takes away the feeling of awe from both elites and the energy sword.

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Plasma swords look cooler that Energy Swords too..they're...shinier.

  • 07.13.2006 9:17 PM PDT
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Okay, even if you have an energy sword, while playing on Legendary, one blow from an elite charging at you, and your dead. Yeah, I'm definently not afraid of that.......And it also seemed that the gold elites in Halo 1 had much better sheilds.

  • 07.13.2006 9:23 PM PDT
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I like the idea, but since it was implemented into Halo 2 it would anger A LOT of people to take it out. I mean, I would miss it too but I personally did enjoyed cowering and squeeling in fear when a elite with a sword came rushing after me in Halo CE.

Now what if, in Halo 3, on Legendary, you were then not able to use the sword? Just to make things harder? I dunno.

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  • 07.13.2006 9:26 PM PDT
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Okay, even if you have an energy sword, while playing on Legendary, one blow from an elite charging at you, and your dead. Yeah, I'm definently not afraid of that.......And it also seemed that the gold elites in Halo 1 had much better sheilds.
Yeah, but the elites were still scarier in Halo 1 because sword elites were very rare (only stealth and gold elites could carry swords) and also because you didn't have the ability to use the weapon.

  • 07.13.2006 9:28 PM PDT
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Oh no, a split lip is coming at me with a energy sword, what ever shall I do?
*pulls out a shotgun and blasts the Elite*

  • 07.13.2006 9:30 PM PDT
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I think your right, the sword was more terrifying in Halo 1, but I liked being able to use it in Halo 2, and it's not like they're going to take the sword out of Halo 3.

  • 07.13.2006 9:33 PM PDT
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Posted by: Vitamin Zawaz
I have an interesting idea for Halo 3.

Some of you may like it, some of you may not.

But I'm ready for any kind of criticism and/or praise...you can flame all you want. I'm used to it. :)

What if...

Just what if...

...We couldn't use the energy sword in halo 3. Just think about it. Think about how scary elites were in halo 1. Didn't you run away in fear when you saw a gold or stealth elite rush at you with a blade dripping with plasmic energy? In halo 2, this great feeling is somewhat there, but not as much; it's lacking in Halo 2 because the player has the ability to use the energy sword as well, and it makes the elites look like morons. The energy sword doesn't seem as swift or punishing in Halo 2. I think it's because we can use it.

I just think that in halo 1, the sword seemed much more frightening because A) the four-jawed beast is rushing at me with it, B) the sword actually had a deep sapphire glow to it, and C) we weren't powerful enough to harness that magnificent energy.

So what if it was in halo 3, but could not be used by the player? Just to enhance the fact that elites are supposed to be deadly, I mean. It would also make elites more unique.

What do you guys think?
Well, it would be stupid to suddenly be able to use the sword and then don't use it, that's like suffering brain damage.

The effect is still there to me, most levels, like in MEtropolis, the last White Elite you encounter gets a sword, roars, and chases you. To me that's just as scary. You couldn't use a sword yet anyway. The thing is you really can't use the weapon on Legendary, it becomes trash unless it's used on Flood. IT takes two lunges to kill a major with it, a lot more for stronger Elites. Essentially destroying the swords purpose there So you get that fear on Legendary. You should anyway :)

  • 07.13.2006 9:45 PM PDT
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Posted by: X13Classified31X
Oh yeah if you didnt get that feeling try Halo 2 on Legendary, I guarantee you will get the feeling again, Sword weilding Elites or everywhere they bus out swords all the time!

An energy sword is actually a downgrade for h2 elites on legendary. The melee is slower, there's no ranged attack, and any weapon they have is already a one smack kill.

  • 07.13.2006 9:52 PM PDT

Posted by: Vitamin Zawaz
I have an interesting idea for Halo 3.

Some of you may like it, some of you may not.

But I'm ready for any kind of criticism and/or praise...you can flame all you want. I'm used to it. :)

What if...

Just what if...

...We couldn't use the energy sword in halo 3. Just think about it. Think about how scary elites were in halo 1. Didn't you run away in fear when you saw a gold or stealth elite rush at you with a blade dripping with plasmic energy? In halo 2, this great feeling is somewhat there, but not as much; it's lacking in Halo 2 because the player has the ability to use the energy sword as well, and it makes the elites look like morons. The energy sword doesn't seem as swift or punishing in Halo 2. I think it's because we can use it.

I just think that in halo 1, the sword seemed much more frightening because A) the four-jawed beast is rushing at me with it, B) the sword actually had a deep sapphire glow to it, and C) we weren't powerful enough to harness that magnificent energy.

So what if it was in halo 3, but could not be used by the player? Just to enhance the fact that elites are supposed to be deadly, I mean. It would also make elites more unique.

What do you guys think?


I agree with you that the sword was scarier in H1, but I think the reason that it wasn't so much in H2 wasn't the fact that you could use, but that the elites just seemed less powerful and their full on charge was slow and easy to stop. Plus of you hit them a few times they would go and hide then just try the same thing again, or if you were on a rooftop or something they would just stand there and stare at you as you shot in the head with a sniper. I think if in H3 they made the sword carrying elites more of this sudden feeling where they would just pop in you r face and you have to backtrack as fast as possible while they made this head on charge that they wouldn't give up until you were dead or they fell. It seemed to me in H2 that they were never just suddenly there, or that they were always out in the open with no-one covering them. In H1 when you go looking for Keyes you come into this room with a golden elite on it and you only had one chance for a surprise shot before all of these other elites would just pop out and start shooting at you and they would provide cover until the sword got through the door and was right on top of you. I think that in H3 to give the sword that old feeling from H1 all they would have to do is change the attitude of the elite and have appear more suddenly.

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Posted by: Dead Eye935
Okay, even if you have an energy sword, while playing on Legendary, one blow from an elite charging at you, and your dead. Yeah, I'm definently not afraid of that.......And it also seemed that the gold elites in Halo 1 had much better sheilds.
Yeah, but the elites were still scarier in Halo 1 because sword elites were very rare (only stealth and gold elites could carry swords) and also because you didn't have the ability to use the weapon.
And they sounded cooler..and looked cooler (sort of )..and didn't sound like English Kings.

Plasma waepons also ruined the Covenant's scariness..they sounded like toys in Halo 2, whereas in Halo, they sounded deeper, and more powerful.

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oh sorry, i forgot to read b4 i shot u

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decide what ammo to use!!!

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T00 late already pulled the trigger. -BLAM!-

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I like the idea of making it un-usable in Campaign, and only usable for the arbiter. It would re-instill fear of the sword when MC, but would still satisfy the sword lovers.

In MP, it should have a battery just like campaign. The unlimited ammo thing is a little... much. Or just remove mid-air lunging.

  • 07.13.2006 10:41 PM PDT

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If they un-nerf all the weapons, the Sword won't be such a prominent weapon at close range..it will almost always be killed unless the wielder is stealthy, or just plain skilled with it..yes, I said it..skilled..with..a..sword.

  • 07.13.2006 10:56 PM PDT