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im thinking they have limited control. it wouldnt make sense if he could control all flood. every move would be coordinated and planned. he just doesnt seem that smart. especially if he has to ask cortana for info. if he was that omnisceint, then he would already have access to the knowledge stored in all the halos combined.

  • 07.14.2006 9:38 AM PDT
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Also, just a question. Considering that, to the extent of our knowledge, there were no sentient beings on inst 05 how did Gravemind come to be? The flood are like a hive mind. but how did a whole bunch of corpses become sentient? That would take evolution millions of years. Could this be just the newest offsrping of the thinking flood evolution?

  • 07.14.2006 9:39 AM PDT

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Posted by: SpecOps Grunt
Well, if there is only one Gravemind, and he is on inst. 05, then who is to say he didn't try to stop MC on inst 04? If it is true and he does control the flood, he was doing a whole lot to stop MC. His mental influence may be able to stretch further than his tentacles.


Gravemind doesn't want the Halo's activated...I don' t think he would care if the one he isn't on blows up

  • 07.14.2006 9:41 AM PDT

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Posted by: St Michael 666
im thinking they have limited control. it wouldnt make sense if he could control all flood. every move would be coordinated and planned. he just doesnt seem that smart. especially if he has to ask cortana for info. if he was that omnisceint, then he would already have access to the knowledge stored in all the halos combined.


I think he's going to ask were earth is so he can try to destroy the ark

  • 07.14.2006 9:44 AM PDT

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Yeah, there wasn't any mention in the books about a Zealot Elite and Cpt. Keyes..


Go back and look at the blob.


Why? What's the point of looking at this?

  • 07.14.2006 9:47 AM PDT
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Posted by: SpecOps Grunt
Well, if there is only one Gravemind, and he is on inst. 05, then who is to say he didn't try to stop MC on inst 04? If it is true and he does control the flood, he was doing a whole lot to stop MC. His mental influence may be able to stretch further than his tentacles.


Gravemind doesn't want the Halo's activated...I don' t think he would care if the one he isn't on blows up


But remember, Guilty Spark almost got MC to activate the Ring, and that was his intention at first as he thought it would just kill the flood. This was, of course, a threat to the flood, and Gravemind.

  • 07.14.2006 9:50 AM PDT
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well, if your mind worked as his did, you would see that the blob signifies the mucus found in the averagely zealous elite's throat after a good war cry. now this blob was expunged from the elite when he caughed on top the main deck within truth and reconciliation. keys must have stepped into this when the flood started to merge. therefore, erego, he is part elite.

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Posted by: St Michael 666
im thinking they have limited control. it wouldnt make sense if he could control all flood. every move would be coordinated and planned. he just doesnt seem that smart. especially if he has to ask cortana for info. if he was that omnisceint, then he would already have access to the knowledge stored in all the halos combined.


I think he's going to ask were earth is so he can try to destroy the ark


Do only high ranking officers and AI know what Earth's location is? I find that hard to believe. So why don't the flood already know the location, look at how many human hosts they have. Also, doesn't Gravemind already know the location of Earth from Regret who stumbled upon Earth?

* Also, if the thing on Earth isn't the Ark, Gravemind would know where it is anyway. recall he also had 2401 PT along with Regret.

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  • 07.14.2006 9:53 AM PDT
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most likely, but i dont think the flood care much about humans when there are so many covenant planets. theve been at war with the covies for ten thousand years, while the humans just popped up. they must prioritize

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  • 07.14.2006 9:57 AM PDT
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Aren't you busy being an English teacher somewhere? And please dont talk about other people's grammar when you can't even spell the word right.

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I don't think the flood have the ability to tell the difference between humans and covies. They're more focused on eating everything in sight. Note how they often attack grunts before elites. It'sa backwawrds, you want to kill the most dangerous first, but they don't.

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Yeah, there wasn't any mention in the books about a Zealot Elite and Cpt. Keyes..


Go back and look at the blob.


Why? What's the point of looking at this?


GO!

  • 07.14.2006 10:08 AM PDT
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couldn't travel where? Who?

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"Well, if there is only one Gravemind, and he is on inst. 05, then who is to say he didn't try to stop MC on inst 04? If it is true and he does control the flood, he was doing a whole lot to stop MC. His mental influence may be able to stretch further than his tentacles."

I was thinking the exact same thing. Everything seems to indicate that there is only one gravemind and if that is so and he does control the flood, his power must be able to reach across the entire galaxy. If so, he must have known what was going on on the first Halo. When the flood attacked MC, it had to have been under Gravemind's order since he is their consciousness.

"im thinking they have limited control. it wouldnt make sense if he could control all flood. every move would be coordinated and planned. he just doesnt seem that smart. especially if he has to ask cortana for info. if he was that omnisceint, then he would already have access to the knowledge stored in all the halos combined"

I am also a little curious about this as well. If Gravemind is controlling them all and he is so smart, why are the flood not fighting in a ranked, more efficient formation instead of flopping around like they are on caffeine highs during battle?

  • 07.14.2006 10:21 AM PDT
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Posted by: Fat Tony B
Why wouldn't he like the Halo being blown up??? the Halo is the one thing that can actually kill the Flood for good...there is now a safe have spot for the flood in the galaxy becuz of the chief


Because to me it seems like the Flood have made the Halo rings their home. Sure they want to stop the rings being activated but to destroy one would be a major loss of data and resources. It might be viewed as a waste.

I can understand now that the Flood have High Charity that the rings are becoming less important but they are still a vast resource to have.

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He wasn't on the first Halo is a good point.
But a secondary point is that the gravemind can either 'Teleport' or he is present where ever there is a flood infection.

After all, he did teleport the Chief and the Arbiter.

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Posted by: V101
Why did the Gravemind fight so hard to stop the activation of Delta Halo yet apparently do nothing to stop the Activation of the first Halo?


I Believe Gravemind is on Installation 05 Which is Far away from Installation 04 Thus Proving He cannot Be on Two places at Once.

  • 07.14.2006 6:10 PM PDT
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Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
this is why i believe in only one GM

the activation of 04 may not have concerned him, if he was even aware of it

but seeing as how the battle came to his precious home of inst. 05, he took action

that was an excellent by the way, thread creator


hey iceman was that bold typing i saw

  • 07.14.2006 6:40 PM PDT

that which is not dead can eternal lie, but with strange aeons even death may die.

I think there are 7 graveminds, one for Each halo, just on halo 1 (04) the grave mind was locked away in its cell, (under the library) because the thing MC was on when he grabbed the index was like a big door, closing on the "bottumless pit" which held the gravemind,

note: it did not look bottum less because in halo 1 the graphics engine didnt compensate so that far down.

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Cortona says i know your past and your future and gravemind is prolly talking threw her..so maybe gravemind is kelly and the professer...(cant think of her name)

  • 07.14.2006 10:43 PM PDT
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Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
this is why i believe in only one GM

the activation of 04 may not have concerned him, if he was even aware of it

but seeing as how the battle came to his precious home of inst. 05, he took action

that was an excellent by the way, thread creator


hey iceman was that bold typing i saw



ha ha very funny :-)

  • 07.14.2006 11:12 PM PDT
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Gravemind? Oh, that guy's been around for quite a while. It seems he was present during the last fight for the Index or at least when the Flood begun compiling a mass grave. Either way, he's trapped in his own demise as he so laments about.

The Flood having santuary on the Halos. That's not a far-off theory. Perhaps there is more hidden secrets to the Halos.

Keyes was indeed an early stage of the Gravemind. Because Joe said so.

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Posted by: V101
Why did the Gravemind fight so hard to stop the activation of Delta Halo yet apparently do nothing to stop the Activation of the first Halo?


This in truth is for the New Mombosa forum( Halo2 general ) please put Halo2 questions/ideas/topics there.

  • 07.14.2006 11:45 PM PDT
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Why was Keyes so special? The Flood took over hundreds of races and millions of beings why was Keyes chosen to become a gravemind?

  • 07.14.2006 11:58 PM PDT

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