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Subject: Bungie Weekly Update
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When was it that "Day of Defeat" came around? I only played it last weekend when the "'DoD: Source' Free Weekend" thing came up, but I could instantly tell it was a top-notch shooter.

Hopefully more people will recognise the difference between stickyness and auto-aim after this update. Having the reticule stick with the target is, in my opinion, a better display of skill than actually having the game manipulate the bullet (or rocket) after its fired. I'd prefer having no auto-aim whatsoever in the next Halo game, and just stick with the stickyness of the reticule.

  • 07.15.2006 12:24 PM PDT

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Worst. Update. Ever.


I KID! I kid. It was great! Thanks Frankie! Very cool history of the FPS, lot of good games covered there. Loved "battlespace" among other retro games. Since nobody asked for a Mister Chier, I suppose I will - How does Mister Chief hang out during the summer? What does he DO during the summer?


also, I believe "day of defeat" came out a short time after "half-life", then "source" (the follow up" I believe came out earlier this year, or late last year. Good games.



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  • 07.15.2006 1:33 PM PDT

never underestimate the stupidity of idiots

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nice update

You did NOT read that in one minute...


Spead reading, ftw!

And by spead reading, I mean "QUICK-QUICK-QUICK! HIT THE FORUM BUTTON!!!!!!"

>> Kritz


i wouldnt like to be speady. i'd much rather be speedy.

and btw goldeneye DID have bots... remember "AI Bot 1" and "AI Bot 2"???

im 15 yo btw

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  • 07.15.2006 2:52 PM PDT

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Exalted is considered "the highest" because you can't get any bans or warnings of any kind for quite a long time, which is harder than just being a member for a long time.

Ok, I have to add my own: Duke Nukem 3D

With the change from 2D to 3D FPS, this game not only including a plethora of insane weapons, but also tons of action and a dark alien undertone.

From pipe bombs, lazer trip bombs, chain guns, pistols, freeze guns, shrink rays, and giving someone a boot, this game had it all. With an option to dial your neighbor's computer with your modem you could connect to play one on one matches, or hook up multiple computers for more than that.

Map editing was probably the most used feature of this game, and I'm still waiting on a feature like this to be matched by ANY game on ANY console. It hasn't been paralled since, althought some game designers (Bungie included) promise features like this in future titles... or at least mention it (Come on Halo Vista!).

One slightly lesser known option was the fact that you could completely customize EVERY option in the game from weapon damage, enemy hit points and even changing sounds or images. Me and my friend actually took out the regular pistol sound and replaced it with the magnum from Dirty Harry. Every time you used it... KABOOM!

The fact that a game with this much fun and this many options in gameplay could be left out in ANY "History" of FPS blows my mind, and almost made me puke a little... but that was probably the spiced rum from last night...

In closing, I would like to say Goldeneye kicked arse... but nothing even compared to DN3D until Halo2 came around... Call me a fan boy, but I've been shooting aliens for over a decade. I can't wait for Halo 3, but I can't wait for another map editor like Duke's either...

  • 07.15.2006 3:15 PM PDT
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Posted by: slay and betray
and btw goldeneye DID have bots... remember "AI Bot 1" and "AI Bot 2"???


Nope. That was more then likely TWINE (the world is not enough) :D


Perfect Dark 64. Hands down. Best fps for 64.


- btw. Think you could draw Mister Cheif only using the "Circle" tool?

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  • 07.15.2006 3:16 PM PDT

GAMETAG : ROMANZAM (Retired) / Ready for H3.
Its amazing how many online friends you attract when your ambidextrous.

Right now Lars is trying to make it fun and rewarding for all the participants and yet implementing a scoring system that doesn't reward griefers and quitters. It's a tricky balance.

F - I - N - A - L - L - Y
Amen to that = )

  • 07.15.2006 5:00 PM PDT
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great update but bad news about the voices in halo3

  • 07.15.2006 6:07 PM PDT

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Nice to see homage paid to the progenitors: Thank you, id

Wolfenstein 3D, Spear of Destiny, Doom, Quake - where would we be without these? How learned and wealthy would I be had I not wasted countless hours on each of these, and each of the other games listed in your FPS memoir?

Pretty damn learned and wealthy, I'll tell you.

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  • 07.15.2006 6:12 PM PDT
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Great Update. I think I've played every game in that list. But I must say you were right when you said Halo for Xbox was the first one. But then pointed out you were kidding. I think theres truth there. Halo for Xbox in my "opinion" does define what a FPS is and should be. Therefore making it the first FPS...in my opinion. Much of that had to do with alot of Marty. The music i think, definately makes the game have the mood and feel to make it a "Great" game.

I'm so into the audio end of things, I have 22 speakers, 5.1 digital "Optical" surround, DTS surround, Dolby Pro Logic II with WMA decoding, 2 Screens, an Xbox 360 (wireless Adapter, can play live from car if a wireless router is nearby..Basically from any where on my property)...etc.....all jammed into a 1995 Camaro Z-28. so I had to make a post on the update.

From the Update:

"Actually the audio in the game (Halo 3) right now seems remarkably polished, although I'm reliably informed it's all placeholder. Certainly the music is lifted wholesale from the Halo 2 soundtrack and chosen to closely match "mood" with the new Campaign levels. The sound effects are another matter - right now, FOR DEVELOPMENT PLACEHOLDER REASONS ONLY (some of you know why and for whom I bolded that part) we have all the AI character dialog from Halo 2 running - so that Marines say the same things they did in the last game,"

Well, don't get me wrong, Halo and Halo 2 both had amazing "surround sound effects ." Although in Halo 2, I felt that the "Surround Sounds" were too constant, especially when playing multiplayer. This I felt at first was cool, however after playing for a bit, it started to feel more like just sound coming from my rear speakers.Things such as wind blowing or clouds rumbling... were too constant even things like the Ocean sounds were always there no matter what direction you turned in, it made it feel like noises basically and not "surround sound effects".Just sounds. I'm mentioning the "Natural Sound Effects" because they well, thay were too constant making them sound "unatural". The footsteps of someone walking up from behind you were overshadowed and mostly unnoticeable because of this, you couldn't hear someone come up from behind or even which side they were coming from in Halo 2. It was like they would just appear behind you. In Halo for Xbox, you could identify perfectly not only how far away someone was walking but also exactly what side they were coming from footsteps would get louder as they got closer. The "woosh" sound of someone actually missing you from behind with a melee attack was also lost in Halo 2 or not nearly as noticeable, and very Noticeable in Halo for Xbox. I'm hoping there could be some kind of timing effect added for the Natural sounds to make them sound more natural, and that more "effect" will actually be added for the things like footsteps and the missing hit of a melee attack In the upcoming Halo 3.

I also hope when Marty says "mood for the campaign levels". Judging from the teaser trailer music in Halo 3, I'm Hoping for a more direct mood setting like in the first game. Don't get me wrong guys, the music in Halo 2 was great, I just felt it was "pimped out" Halo music. Don't bling out Halo 3 Marty, put us back in the "mood." Let the MC and the MC only "Finish the Fight"!!!!!!!!

Best Update for July.

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  • 07.15.2006 7:03 PM PDT
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stareoids suck

  • 07.15.2006 10:41 PM PDT

So does anyone know who that sexy beast in the pic next to the update is? Marty maybe? Frankie? How about the girl? Is Bungie vacationing on the beach in Zanzibar? If so, there should be a hog in the background. My vote is for a Mister Chief layin' down the banhammer on a cheater. Ninja-style!

  • 07.15.2006 11:06 PM PDT
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Posted by: robert5element
great update but bad news about the voices in halo3


I guess we both mis-read that, there just using the voices from H2 as "stand ins" although that seems really counter productive. To put them in, then have to take them out and replace them with new ones? Who the f does work like that?

That sounds more like, there in there for now and if we run out of time and dont get around to getting new voices in there, well, there already in there, so shhhhh jk jk. I really hope this is all just a big misunderstanding haha.

But I do have an idea for a MC pic Frankie, I noticed in the making of the teaser there were lots of Canadian flags, which is cool because Im Canadian and all five of us here play a lot of Halo, could you draw the MC on vacation in Canada, give him a surprized face when he shows up in July and theres no snow. Because thats the best part of being Canadian, seeing the faces on the Americans when they cross the border in July with skis on the roofs of there cars, that stuff never gets old. But Im rethinking now and because I wasnt very nice yesterday with the whole "H2 voices were kinda -blam!- thing," that probably now you wont do it for Fred, John, Sally, me and...wait a sec...what did you do with Billy you bastereds!!!!!!

  • 07.16.2006 1:59 AM PDT
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frankie nice update, you should make a mister cheif in gravminds mouth... i dont know why but that just sounds funny to me right now, it may just be because its like,,,,,,, 5 am and i havent slept in 2 days =)

  • 07.16.2006 3:54 AM PDT
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OMG, Marty O'Donnell is my town!! Brighton owns

  • 07.16.2006 6:04 AM PDT
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goldeneye didnt have bots. perfect dark did.

  • 07.16.2006 10:09 AM PDT
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what is up with team swat is it gonna be ranked cuz thats the rumer??????

  • 07.16.2006 10:29 AM PDT
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http://halo.bungie.org/haloupdates/allupdates.html

Does anyone recognize the content on this page? These are the halo 1 updates. Notice how they actualy contain info about the game.
Look, I do not WANT to be offensive, but Frankie, let's actualy hear a little about the game. I can understand that you can not give us a screenshot or give anything away, but this is just ****. Instead of just telling us how cool or polished stuff looks, why not give us a little more information. Ok, you have told us that MC and the warthog will be in the game. How about telling us mabey... the poly count, if the hog will be destructible... Or maybe explain some of the technology that was mentioned in the documentary movie. Any kind of actual info would be nice... Telling us a little more about the game engine wouldn't hurt... and will the vehicles still be able to boost in halo 2? If you cannot tell us stuff like this, please tell us why in the next update. As for those who agree with me, say something!

As for the mister chief thing, I would like to see him bringing down the banhammer on some modder's head.... or maybe run them over in the waaaaaambulence! That would be cool...

PS: First. Post. EVER!

[Edit] By the way, how do you put on a custom display picture? Because choosing from a list... Well, I have some good animations that might be good. [/Edit]

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  • 07.16.2006 12:26 PM PDT
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The comic arrives comic day, yay!

Bob (the comic pullin' guy who holds a hundred peoples' comic-book collection in his skilled hands) will have the HGN pulled for me on wednesday when I stop in. I knew it was imminent when I saw it on the cover of CSN and there was a whole page reserved for it in CSN. Lookin' good, Bungie.

  • 07.16.2006 1:12 PM PDT

What does Mister Cheif's Myspace page layout look like?

  • 07.16.2006 1:15 PM PDT

I hate signatures :)

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Posted by: robert5element
great update but bad news about the voices in halo3

He said the voices were placeholder, which means that they are only temporary, so they won't be in the final game. Don't worry, Bungie isn't stupid :).

  • 07.16.2006 3:13 PM PDT
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I'd like to know what all of this nonsense is about Denzel Washington playing Master Chief. As far as I know, he met in New Zealand to talk to Peter Jackson about possibly utilizing his WETA staff in a movie Denzel wishes to DIRECT. If he wanted a possible role in the Halo film as well, he would make a swell Sgt Johnson but a horrible master chief. He's short, he's black. John is 7 ft tall and pale caucasian. I'd just assume that if Bungie/Microsoft were protective enough as to not let a movie distribution/production company ruin this movie by making it a paint-by-numbers plot with a happy ending and crappy actors/no violence-language, popcorn cheeseball flick; they'd be worried about continuity as well. They did a great job instrumenting that in the continuity of the novels and games, and it would be ashame if they got starstruck and decided to just overlook this. Even if Washington's face/body were never shown, even his voice is horribly non-MC'ish.

On the internet movie database forum, every other thread is a panic about Denzel Washington and how he would make a horrible MC but a great Sgt. People are excited about Peter Jackson, but at the same time alarmed at the notion of bungie giving a second-thought at granting Denzel the lead role.


Secondly, I'd like to know what bungie's stance is on the conflicting information on Wikipedia and the LatinoReview. According to Wikipedia:

"Halo cinematic director and story script writer Joseph Staten, in a 22 April seminar at Northwestern University in Evanston, IL, said that the Halo movie would not be a videogame adaptation, adding credibility to the temporary title change to "Fall of Reach", suggesting that the movie would be based off the eponymous novel and not directly off the videogame itself."

In my own opinion, addressing the storyline of the books in celluloid by means of a possible prequil to the video games would be amazing and give fans a sense of closure instead of a sense of boredom by having the same storyline we've all played through dozens of times just recreated in live action.

The conflicting claim:
The Latino Review exposed a "leaked" official script and publically dared Bungie to say otherwise. That script hints a regurgitation of the first video game-Combat Evolved. Pretty much just re-hashing a lot of stuff the fans have already been through by playing the games. By bungie not refuting the public challenge and claim, more and more heavy-hitting websites are posting articles referencing latino review and taking the source as god-spoken. DOES LATINO REVIEW HAVE THE OFFICIAL HALO MOVIE SCRIPT OR NOT. IF THEY DONT, PLEASE, JUST SAY SO. I personally hope they dont.

Thirdly, I'd like to know if the "Ghosts of Coral" bungie/halo novel is still scheduled for release in october, and what is taking so long for this "graphic novel" to be distributed, I thought it was supposed to be out by now.

If you, or anyone reading this have ANY information that you're allowed to touch on, please hook it up.



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  • 07.16.2006 4:14 PM PDT
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FPS ROCKS

  • 07.16.2006 6:35 PM PDT
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When I had my 75mhz Mac back in the early '90s, I played the hell out of Marathon. You guys rock! Well, except for SMG's not doing any damage and not booting Modders. Oh, did I mention the lag.
Still...Halo online is an amazing accomplishment.
Maybe a more realistic, non sci-fi game that plays like Halo...i.e. the same engine and a FPS. Add a roundhouse kick into the melee option. Ya' know...like a Miami Vice type game or a Doom (zombies) or FEAR (supernatural) type theme to the game.. Just a thought from a devoted long time fan.

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  • 07.16.2006 7:39 PM PDT

I'm awesome!

"One of the things Halo probably did for the genre, on console at least, was neatly use dual analog sticks for aiming and walking."

If bungie is saying they invented dual stick control they're wrong. Ever play Timesplitters for PS2? A launch game. Came out a while before Halo. It had dual stick control. Unless Bungie was working on dual stick control for a long long time, they didn't invent. Unless Timesplitters didn't "neatly" do it. Which it did in my opinion. There may be others that did dual stick before Timesplitters but it's the first one I remember. Anyways, credit where credit is due Bungie. Come on.

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  • 07.16.2006 8:42 PM PDT
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sweet goldeneye rox, well if there had to be an update that was gonna be interesting and still not about halo 3, i think this did it nicley.!

  • 07.16.2006 10:17 PM PDT