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You should of made up your own instrument. You could have named it the PolarLighting -a-phone. People would buy it and they would all be like "Awh, He's so cool for inventing the PolarLighting-a-phone."

I'm getting pretty tired of seeing about a million threads about ideas for the pelican and how it should/shouldn't be a pilotable vehicle for Halo 3. Threads about how the pelican should be able to have a smoothie machine and shoot energy swords. Threads about how we should be able to pilot phantoms. Why don't we just compress all of those into one nice thread?

In my opinion I think that the pelican should not be a pilotable vehicle for Halo 3. It is simply too large a vehicle to intergrate effectively into a fast paced shooter such as Halo, and would also create a lot of problems in terms of griefing. That's just my opinion though, I'm sure that there are plenty of counter points. Post away!

EDIT: Here are the current ideas that you guys have come up with for the pelican:

Pelican
* The pilot should be susceptible to sniper fire.
* If the pilot dies the pelican goes down, injuring all crew.
* There should be 1 Pilot, 1 rear Gunner, and 4-10 passengers
* A full speed inpact with an indestructible, unmoveable solid object should result in the death of the crew.
* It should take 2+ Rockets to destroy the pelican.
* The pelican should have individual weak spots to be targeted by rockets.
* It should be fully destructible.

Ideas for a Phantom

* One Pilot, one gunner per turret, and 4-8 passengers.
* Turrets should be slightly more powerful than the Large Plasma Turret.
* Should be slower, but more manuverable and defensive than the pelican.

Now for the arguments for the Pelican:
* It would outright fun to use.
* It'd add a new dimension of gameplay to H3. (Aerial transport)
* It would take advantage of the huge maps that might come with H3.
* It is very sexy and it would be a crime not to include it.

Arguments against the Pelican:
* It wouldn't feel like the Halo that we know and love.
* With Pelicans would come huge maps and a decrease in gameplay speed. (and an increase in lag)
* The Pelican would be either too voulnerable or not voulnerable enough
* With the enourmous amount of players that it would require, communication issues would be raised.
* Halo isn't Battlefield 2

EDIT: It would also seem that a lot of you would be content with a driveable Shadow.

[Edited on 7/17/2006]

  • 07.14.2006 7:16 PM PDT
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I don't think we should be able to use it in multiplayer. I wouldn't mind riding it as a passenger in campaign, though. And by "riding in campaign," I mean having to ride the pelican and shoot at passing covenant for segments of campaign levels. That would own.

  • 07.14.2006 7:18 PM PDT
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I think we should have a game mode that is like BF2 and have these HUGE ASS maps where like you could use pelicans and phantoms.

  • 07.14.2006 7:20 PM PDT

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You should of made up your own instrument. You could have named it the PolarLighting -a-phone. People would buy it and they would all be like "Awh, He's so cool for inventing the PolarLighting-a-phone."

Posted by: LApimpingansta
I think we should have a game mode that is like BF2 and have these HUGE ASS maps where like you could use pelicans and phantoms.


I think that those should be the only condions under which we should be able to do that. And at that point the maps would be too large for enjoyable gameplay, or have too many players for organized gameplay. It would bring up communication issues.

  • 07.14.2006 7:28 PM PDT

We are the Halo Generation.

Yea, Pelicans should be kept out of multiplayer.

  • 07.14.2006 7:29 PM PDT

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You should of made up your own instrument. You could have named it the PolarLighting -a-phone. People would buy it and they would all be like "Awh, He's so cool for inventing the PolarLighting-a-phone."

Posted by: spartan 461
I think you should'nt be able to use pelicans except for transport.

That's the only thing that it can be used for though.

  • 07.14.2006 7:30 PM PDT

"Thoughts are the shadows of feelings; always darker, emptier, and simpler."

I modded my xbox so that i could fly a pelican. it was cool. It flies insanely fast though. but just like i posted ONE-HUNDRED TIMES, it should only be as fast as the banshee with no boost. And there can only be 2 passeners and 1 gunner for the 360o turret. And the windows should be able to be peirced by a sniper bullet or rocket.

Imagine, making a hole in the glass with a few bullets and jumping from a building into the cockpit and the guys in back breaking the door open and firing at you. bring on the GTA!!!

It is hard to control thoug, you have to be at a certain altitude before you can fly straight. and you can't pin it at the ground like te banshee.

  • 07.14.2006 7:36 PM PDT

Make it xbox live that would be cool

  • 07.14.2006 7:39 PM PDT

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You should of made up your own instrument. You could have named it the PolarLighting -a-phone. People would buy it and they would all be like "Awh, He's so cool for inventing the PolarLighting-a-phone."

Posted by: BrenMan 94
I modded my xbox so that i could fly a pelican. it was cool. It flies insanely fast though. but just like i posted ONE-HUNDRED TIMES, it should only be as fast as the banshee with no boost. And there can only be 2 passeners and 1 gunner for the 360o turret. And the windows should be able to be peirced by a sniper bullet or rocket.

Imagine, making a hole in the glass with a few bullets and jumping from a building into the cockpit and the guys in back breaking the door open and firing at you. bring on the GTA!!!

It is hard to control thoug, you have to be at a certain altitude before you can fly straight. and you can't pin it at the ground like te banshee.


One problem that I find about a pelican (even a slow one) is shown in Conker: Live and reloaded. The Mule, is just like the pelican except it can bomb bases. It is the most annoying vehicle to be killed by!

  • 07.14.2006 7:45 PM PDT
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Polar Lightning has it exactly right. A pelican is not suitable for the fast-pacedness that is Halo. And a map that would actually be suitable for a Pelican would just be too big formultiplayer.

Think about it. A map that could hold a Pelican would really need a fleet of Pelicans, because what would happen when someone saw a huge behemoth in the sky with the capabilitie of killing them? They would shoot it!!

A map that would have a Pelican would really need to be the size of an actual single player map. And with the sdize comes the issue of knowing what is going on. Imagine, CTF, on a map that has a Pelican-- You don't know where the flag is for your team, it's missing, the guy next to you dies from sniper fire, the map is too big to see where the sniper is. And then the Pelican comes over head and shoots you.


Not fun really. And this is Halo, not Grand Theft Auto, c'mon guys. Methinks that Pelicans would be cool, for single player only.

  • 07.14.2006 7:46 PM PDT

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You should of made up your own instrument. You could have named it the PolarLighting -a-phone. People would buy it and they would all be like "Awh, He's so cool for inventing the PolarLighting-a-phone."

Posted by: MissionHill
Polar Lightning has it exactly right. A pelican is not suitable for the fast-pacedness that is Halo. And a map that would actually be suitable for a Pelican would just be too big formultiplayer.

Think about it. A map that could hold a Pelican would really need a fleet of Pelicans, because what would happen when someone saw a huge behemoth in the sky with the capabilitie of killing them? They would shoot it!!

A map that would have a Pelican would really need to be the size of an actual single player map. And with the sdize comes the issue of knowing what is going on. Imagine, CTF, on a map that has a Pelican-- You don't know where the flag is for your team, it's missing, the guy next to you dies from sniper fire, the map is too big to see where the sniper is. And then the Pelican comes over head and shoots you.


Not fun really. And this is Halo, not Grand Theft Auto, c'mon guys. Methinks that Pelicans would be cool, for single player only.


Finally! Somebody agrees me!

  • 07.14.2006 7:48 PM PDT

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I think Halo should be kept Halo.. It's not Battlefield. If you say "Let's have <this> because it's like <this game>!" why not go play said game?!

Polar and Mission have good viewpoints.. :)

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  • 07.14.2006 7:48 PM PDT

"Thoughts are the shadows of feelings; always darker, emptier, and simpler."

^^^^^^^

But then how are helicopters suitable in BF2 huh?

  • 07.14.2006 7:48 PM PDT

"Thoughts are the shadows of feelings; always darker, emptier, and simpler."

whoa man deja-vu

  • 07.14.2006 7:48 PM PDT

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Posted by: BrenMan 94
^^^^^^^

There's a "Quote" button..

But then how are helicopters suitable in BF2 huh?


What are you talking about? BF2 is BF2, it's not Halo. Helicopters fit in the BF2 maps, because they fit. Halo has always been smaller and faster paced. Adding a pelican would require larger maps, more players, (more lag), a complete overhaul in the gameplay that is anything remotely like Halo.. The list goes on. It's a BAD IDEA.

And Bren Man, it's actually against the rules to talk about modding Xboxes. Good job.


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  • 07.14.2006 7:50 PM PDT

"Thoughts are the shadows of feelings; always darker, emptier, and simpler."

Posted by: SS_Zag1
Posted by: BrenMan 94
^^^^^^^

There's a "Quote" button..

But then how are helicopters suitable in BF2 huh?


What are you talking about? BF2 is BF2, it's not Halo. Helicopters fit in the BF2 maps, because they fit. Halo has always been smaller and faster paced. Adding a pelican would require larger maps, more players, (more lag), a complete overhaul in the gameplay that is anything remotely like Halo.. The list goes on. It's a BAD IDEA.

And BrenMan, it's actually against the rules to talk about modding Xboxes. Good job.
I'm just ignoring that it was AR and that you can't use it on live.


That last line was weird. lol

  • 07.14.2006 7:53 PM PDT

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You should of made up your own instrument. You could have named it the PolarLighting -a-phone. People would buy it and they would all be like "Awh, He's so cool for inventing the PolarLighting-a-phone."

Posted by: SS_Zag1
Posted by: BrenMan 94
^^^^^^^

There's a "Quote" button..

But then how are helicopters suitable in BF2 huh?


What are you talking about? BF2 is BF2, it's not Halo. Helicopters fit in the BF2 maps, because they fit. Halo has always been smaller and faster paced. Adding a pelican would require larger maps, more players, (more lag), a complete overhaul in the gameplay that is anything remotely like Halo.. The list goes on. It's a BAD IDEA.

And Bren Man, it's actually against the rules to talk about modding Xboxes. Good job.


Even if it were made for campaign mode only it wouldn't be halo. One thing I love about halo is that there are never any missions where the priority is to protect a convoy or person (transfer someone/thing safely). It's just not halo.

  • 07.14.2006 7:53 PM PDT

"Thoughts are the shadows of feelings; always darker, emptier, and simpler."

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Posted by: BrenMan 94
^^^^^^^

There's a "Quote" button..

But then how are helicopters suitable in BF2 huh?


What are you talking about? BF2 is BF2, it's not Halo. Helicopters fit in the BF2 maps, because they fit. Halo has always been smaller and faster paced. Adding a pelican would require larger maps, more players, (more lag), a complete overhaul in the gameplay that is anything remotely like Halo.. The list goes on. It's a BAD IDEA.

And Bren Man, it's actually against the rules to talk about modding Xboxes. Good job.


Even if it were made for campaign mode only it wouldn't be halo. One thing I love about halo is that there are never any missions where the priority is to protect a convoy or person (transfer someone/thing safely). It's just not halo.


We didn't mean convoy protection. I was saying that you had olike get over a small body of water and you used a pelican.

  • 07.14.2006 7:56 PM PDT

"The man who knows he knows nothing, knows something"

instead of huge maps, how about maps with ledges, like ascension, or lockout. except, less land, so flying large dropships becomes an important part of getting around. maybe 2 large bases and a few islands in the middle or something, Idk...

  • 07.14.2006 7:57 PM PDT

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You should of made up your own instrument. You could have named it the PolarLighting -a-phone. People would buy it and they would all be like "Awh, He's so cool for inventing the PolarLighting-a-phone."

Posted by: BrenMan 94
Posted by: PolarLightning
Posted by: SS_Zag1
Posted by: BrenMan 94
^^^^^^^

There's a "Quote" button..

But then how are helicopters suitable in BF2 huh?


What are you talking about? BF2 is BF2, it's not Halo. Helicopters fit in the BF2 maps, because they fit. Halo has always been smaller and faster paced. Adding a pelican would require larger maps, more players, (more lag), a complete overhaul in the gameplay that is anything remotely like Halo.. The list goes on. It's a BAD IDEA.

And Bren Man, it's actually against the rules to talk about modding Xboxes. Good job.


Even if it were made for campaign mode only it wouldn't be halo. One thing I love about halo is that there are never any missions where the priority is to protect a convoy or person (transfer someone/thing safely). It's just not halo.


We didn't mean convoy protection. I was saying that you had olike get over a small body of water and you used a pelican.


That would still give that convoy feel though. On second hand, it would've been fun to pilot the Phantom near the end of the Arbiter's first mission.

  • 07.14.2006 7:59 PM PDT

"Thoughts are the shadows of feelings; always darker, emptier, and simpler."

ya

  • 07.14.2006 8:00 PM PDT

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You should of made up your own instrument. You could have named it the PolarLighting -a-phone. People would buy it and they would all be like "Awh, He's so cool for inventing the PolarLighting-a-phone."

You can't have too many of those missions though. And "Ya" isn't much of an opinion.

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I still like my earlier idea...
It would be cool to fly in the back of the pelican for parts of campaign levels to clear out the covenant in various cities or canyons. Or you could use the turret mounted on the back. But in multiplayer...no. I think it should only be used to complete certain objectives in campaign.

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Posted by: LApimpingansta
I think we should have a game mode that is like BF2 and have these HUGE ASS maps where like you could use pelicans and phantoms.


I think that those should be the only condions under which we should be able to do that. And at that point the maps would be too large for enjoyable gameplay, or have too many players for organized gameplay. It would bring up communication issues.


organized? to big for FUN?! maps that big would be perfect for anything( especially snipers) & w/ 360 we should be able to have like 20v20 matches, so its not like you wont find anyone, it would make great for all types of players, & they wouldnt even seem so big when you fly over it at 80 mph in a pelican, phantom, ghost, or whatever, what do you mean big battles arent fun, play age of empires & see how enjoyable it is.

  • 07.14.2006 9:36 PM PDT