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Subject: I Think The Arbiter Should Die
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Posted by: UNSCForces
Alright halo fans. What is....
I shortened your post as it was too long to sensibly quote in it's entirety. Yeah I agree, Johnson is a great character but definitely not my favorite.

  • 07.15.2006 6:08 PM PDT
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Posted by: prophate
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Mattbluhalofan- I think the Arbiter should die

Me too

Me 3!

Me 4!


Me 5!!

  • 07.15.2006 6:09 PM PDT
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I don't know why everybody hates the Arbiter. What do you have against him?

Every Arbiter has died before him so i don't think he will die, i think that he might take control of the New Covenant.

But for deepness factor, i think that the Arbiter is deeper and more emotional for those who haven't read the books. For those who have, then it is a different story.

I just don't understand what this Elite did to get hated upon, i mean he let us blow up the first halo and save mankind. No?

  • 07.15.2006 6:12 PM PDT

I like him, but if he dies saving humanity that would be awesome. It's the whole greater evil becoming our own savior.


As for plot twists, I'd love to see atleast two races get wiped out by the end of the triology (Flood, and Brutes [I hate them!]). Even if it's humanity that does get wiped out it would be a hell of a twist!

[Edited on 7/15/2006]

  • 07.15.2006 6:12 PM PDT
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Despite what anybody wants I believe that the MC is destined to die.

  • 07.15.2006 6:14 PM PDT
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yes the flood and brutes need wiped out.

Why don't all the Arbiter Haters focus there attention on the Brutes and Flood And Hate on them?

  • 07.15.2006 6:17 PM PDT
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Posted by: LiL Lz911
I don't know why everybody hates the Arbiter. What do you have against him?

Every Arbiter has died before him so i don't think he will die, i think that he might take control of the New Covenant.

But for deepness factor, i think that the Arbiter is deeper and more emotional for those who haven't read the books. For those who have, then it is a different story.

I just don't understand what this Elite did to get hated upon, i mean he let us blow up the first halo and save mankind. No?
I own the books, loved them and I still love Arbiter.

  • 07.15.2006 6:17 PM PDT

Posted by: The Lone Heretic
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I understand that Bungie needed the Arbiter in order to more easily explain the plot of the beginning of the civil war within the Covenant. If it had been just the Chief then it would've been impossible to get across a main part of the story and would've left players wondering what the hell was going on. All the same, I never really wanted to play as an Elite and that still hasn't changed. If they could 'remove' the Arbiter completely or as soon as possible it would make me happier. But if they need him to continue to make sure the plot is understandable then I suppose i would be willing to put up with it.
I was in the same boat as everyone else who hates the Elites. When the first Arbiter level began, I didn't kill any Elites, I was trying to sneak up behind the two that you start with. They suddenly turned around and I stopped and in panic I whipped out the plasma rifle. I wondered why they didn't attack me. Then I saw my hands. I was in disbelief and anger. I have since changed my position, I love the Arbiter, and he rocks. I however do not understand why those who hate Elites/The Arbiter go about the forums raising hell and complaining to Bungie about it. They do that while we the people who love the Elites don't go prancing about the forum touting it. I have since lost my respect for Elite haters, they all seem the same. I apologize for the stereotype to you actual respectable Elite haters.


Fair enough. I don't hate the Arbiter, I just have no real reason to like him except for the good voice acting. MC is just more likeable I guess, which gives some gamers annoyance when they're taken away from that.

  • 07.15.2006 6:20 PM PDT
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I know that some people with the books like Arbiter, like myself. Majority doesn't though.

Sorry if my statement came across wrong

  • 07.15.2006 6:22 PM PDT
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Been gone for awhile folks, but I read over the posts.. The MC has a very deep story indeed, read the other books as many others have said.. He is quite an interesting character, and there is much that has happened to him.. Not to mention he's squashed many elites, so I dont see why he should be beat out by a character added in the second game.. Im not trying to sound fanboyish, but many will say I am, so I doubt it matters.. I simply dont like the Arbiter, MC all the way.

  • 07.15.2006 6:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: Aidoc the Black
Been gone for awhile folks, but I read over the posts.. The MC has a very deep story indeed, read the other books as many others have said.. He is quite an interesting character, and there is much that has happened to him.. Not to mention he's squashed many elites, so I dont see why he should be beat out by a character added in the second game.. Im not trying to sound fanboyish, but many will say I am, so I doubt it matters.. I simply dont like the Arbiter, MC all the way.
This folks is what we call a "respectable" Elite hater. He did not say "ZOMG aRBiterz teh suxx0r, lol n00bz!!!!111onene." He stated why he didn't like him in a calm manner.

  • 07.15.2006 6:30 PM PDT
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I don't want him to die heroically. I want to kill him myself while playing as Master Chief. To battle him one on one. He could be like a boss. Bungie could make him better and smarter then your average elite. I don't know, but that is my unimportant thought on the Arbiters death.

  • 07.15.2006 6:35 PM PDT

THIS is the way the world ends...
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You should of made up your own instrument. You could have named it the PolarLighting -a-phone. People would buy it and they would all be like "Awh, He's so cool for inventing the PolarLighting-a-phone."

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  • 07.15.2006 6:37 PM PDT
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Thanks.. I try to offend as few people as possible while strongly stating my opinion, which seems to have worked.. Hopefully, others will do the same, and I'll return to debate later in the thread.

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Posted by: The Doctor 104
I don't want him to die heroically. I want to kill him myself while playing as Master Chief. To battle him one on one. He could be like a boss. Bungie could make him better and smarter then your average elite. I don't know, but that is my unimportant thought on the Arbiters death.
I wonder what the chances of this happening are...

  • 07.15.2006 6:38 PM PDT
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I like the arbiter better than MC. lol, mabye MC should die instead =P






FLAME ON!

  • 07.15.2006 6:38 PM PDT

Posted by: PickledBeef
I like the arbiter better than MC. lol, mabye MC should die instead =P






FLAME ON!


Ok, why do you like the Arbiter more?

  • 07.15.2006 6:41 PM PDT
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I also like the arbiter alot, maybe not enough to say that i like him more then Chief, but i do like the guy. Not in multiplayer though, and Kudos to Aidoc for being a respectable Elite Disliker

  • 07.15.2006 6:44 PM PDT
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Posted by: Kilwan
I hope the Cheif dies in the most anti-climatic way.

For example, while in a cinematic with the Arbiter and MC, you see MC standing on a bridge and gets knocked off by a bird.


Arbiter becomes the main story line character, and every fan boy of the stupid green man can complain/cry/cut themselves.

I on the other hand, will be laughing.

Best. Idea. EVER. LOL! Gets hit by a bird! the chief survived the most impossible odds only to be killed by a BIRD. That's a good one.

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Hah.. I might actually get a good reputation in the forum.. But, back on topic.. As I've said, I dont like the Arbiter.. So, killing him off is a must in my book.. He could have a heroic death to please his fans.. Heck, I know I wouldnt like to see the MC getting killed by a bird.. So I wouldnt wish the same on the Arby's fans.

  • 07.15.2006 6:47 PM PDT

Maybe they could both die together, saving the universe from destruction, a symbol of the bond that can exist between once sworn enemies. Or is that a little too poetic for yeh?

  • 07.15.2006 6:51 PM PDT
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Meh.. Wouldnt work for me. I understand the want of the MC's death for a strong ending.. But, he's always lived through impossible odds, and he always should.. The MC surviving as the Arby dies for another cause would have a pretty strong effect on the community.

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Posted by: Kilwan
Posted by: Aidoc the Black
The MC basically made Halo.. Why would you want a silly alien in ancient armor to survive, when his looks alone are reason enough for him to be shot?


Because that "silly alien in ancient armour" has more friggen story line that MC. He is a much deeper character than MC ever will have.

Here are the storylines summed up in two lines.

MC = Simple minded people who like to shoot things smaller and less scary than him.

Arbiter = People who like a good, deep story. Who like fighting things which will present a challange and would like the game to be more than just a "ha ha. grunt go bye bye. ha ha"


Go Arbiter... and it is REALLY fun to smack the grunts and listen to their stupid comments like "What did we do Arbiter"... You can't do that with Master Chief can you? 'Cause they always end up shouting "Demon!"... and that's not very funny now is it?

  • 07.15.2006 6:56 PM PDT

True. But since the Covenant civil war I'd always assumed it would end up at the end with the Arbiter in charge of the newly formed alliance as he takes on the task of rebuilding his society. That would suggest the MC would be better to kill off. Not that I want him too obviously.

  • 07.15.2006 6:57 PM PDT
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You guys just hate the Arbiter because you could not handle another playble character. I am glad that those who do not hate him are sensible and mature to realise his reason for being in Halo 2 and Halo 3. I always imagined that either the MC or Arbiter will die saving one or the other. But really, don't be stupid and just go out in the threads and post that. We already have an ideas thread.

  • 07.15.2006 6:58 PM PDT