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I'm suppose to argue what causes violence or something. So what do you think. Are the parents responsible for watching violent t.v. shows which leads to later on violence. Or is it the people who control the t.v. shows fault?

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Posted by: Lil G
I'm suppose to argue what causes violence or something. So what do you think. Are the parents responsible for watching violent t.v. shows which leads to later on violence. Or is it the people who control the t.v. shows fault?

no, no. the question is, what do you think. make your argument here. maybe some others will respond, and you can use this forum as preparation for your assignment.

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We were assigned which side we would take. I have parents.

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Posted by: Lil G
We were assigned which side we would take. I have parents.


So your opinion on that is....

  • 10.04.2004 1:06 PM PDT
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so make your argument. and do some research before you do. nothing is worse than a person who takes a stance on something they know nothing about. whether it was assigned to them or not. i'd normally be more than happy to debate with you, but i'm off to school shortly.

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Posted by: Lil G
We were assigned which side we would take. I have parents.


So your opinion on that is....

I believe it is the Parents fault for violent t.v. shows are allowed i the children's life, which can lead to violence later in the child's life. Like crime and s***.

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Whoever watches the show is at fault.

In the case of a minor, yes it is the parents fault...to a degree.
They can't stop their children from watching it all the time.

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Posted by: ACIDD
Whoever watches the show is at fault.

In the case of a minor, yes it is the parents fault...to a degree.
They can't stop their children from watching it all the time.

I know had the dumb topic. This is some s***!

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Violent t.v. doesnt make a child wanna go out and shoot some one in the head its the parents always fighting with each other and the kid getting bullied at school that makes them wanna kill. Either that or they,re one messed up mother-blam!- in the head.

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Posted by: Lil G
Posted by: Galaga Junkie
Posted by: Lil G
We were assigned which side we would take. I have parents.


So your opinion on that is....

I believe it is the Parents fault for violent t.v. shows are allowed i the children's life, which can lead to violence later in the child's life. Like crime and s***.


So, you're saying that the parents are responsible for the violent actions of the child simply because they let their children watch violent shows/movies/games? I've seen a lot of violent stuff as a younger person and I'm not a killer or unaturally violent person. The reason I'm not a psycho killer is because my parents helped me to distinguish between right and wrong, so I can enjoy violent entertainment without going serial-killer on someone's ass because I know what I'm watching is not necesarily true or moraly correct.

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Posted by: stupidhead
Violent t.v. doesnt make a child wanna go out and shoot some one in the head its the parents always fighting with each other and the kid getting bullied at school that makes them wanna kill. Either that or they,re one messed up mother-blam!- in the head.


Violence is caused by many things, some of which is true.
TV, movies, games, parents fighting, and etc. are used as a scapegoat.

People kill because they hate someone
not because some actor showed them it was cool.

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Posted by: ACIDD

TV, movies, games, parents fighting, and etc. are used as a scapegoat.


Yep. Sad, isn't it?

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Posted by: Lil G
Posted by: Galaga Junkie
Posted by: Lil G
We were assigned which side we would take. I have parents.


So your opinion on that is....

I believe it is the Parents fault for violent t.v. shows are allowed i the children's life, which can lead to violence later in the child's life. Like crime and s***.


So, you're saying that the parents are responsible for the violent actions of the child simply because they let their children watch violent shows/movies/games? I've seen a lot of violent stuff as a younger person and I'm not a killer or unaturally violent person. The reason I'm not a psycho killer is because my parents helped me to distinguish between right and wrong, so I can enjoy violent entertainment without going serial-killer on someone's ass because I know what I'm watching is not necesarily true or moraly correct.

It's what I'm suppose to do.

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Whats scapegoat? never knew a word like that exsisted

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Posted by: stupidhead
Whats scapegoat? never knew a word like that exsisted

Someone/thing used as an excuse

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Well, I wish you the best of luck on your project. Be sure you do some research though.

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Posted by: stupidhead
Whats scapegoat? never knew a word like that exsisted

It's like blaming something on someone or something. How old are you by the way?

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Posted by: Lil G
I'm suppose to argue what causes violence or something. So what do you think. Are the parents responsible for watching violent t.v. shows which leads to later on violence. Or is it the people who control the t.v. shows fault?

Neither - the parents who fail to take responsibility for teaching the kids leads to violence --

Here is a post I made to a similar topic a while back -- It was about a videogame store employee asking for ID and talking a mother out of buying a M rated game for her child.

I just want to say thank god for an attentive employee - your store has one of the few and if you can get his name it would be a good idea to contact his manager or the company and offer your praise.

As a recent parent I understand the necessity of responisbility in showing my child right from wrong. Remember Joe Lieberman's videogame witchhunt was spawned by much the same thing. Parents who complain about the videogames that their children are playing. Well, I know my daughter isn't going to be able to afford videogames until she is at least 13 or 14, so who's buying these games?

If a parent isn't going to do more than take a cursory glance at the box, they don't deserve the responsibility of deciding what their children are exposed to. In this day and age child-raising is being delegated to the TV set. A parent that has no 'time' to find out what their kid is playing, should worry about finding that time, not getting angry when they find out that little Tommy's GTA3 has a hooker in it.

Am I the only one whose Mom wouldn't buy Mortal Kombat? My mother was apparently responsible to a degree in what I was exposed to and she worked 12 hour days on the night shift. She eventually evaluated it herself on a trip with me to the arcade, and bought it for me - after she knew what it was and told me what she thought. I give a lot of respect to her because of that.

PARENTS EVERYWHERE read this: Your children are not parakeets. Quality time is not TV, and if you buy a game for junior, pay attention as to what the fudge it is. If you buy it anyway you RESCIND the right to complain later. Don't be a hypocrite and pretend after the fact that you really care, you obviously didn't care enough when you bought it.


I have made my peace.


As a result of a responsible parent, I never had violence issues EVER. Parent's are in my opinion solely responsible for how their brood comes out.

Yes I was exposed to violence, no my mother wasn't always there to tell me it was fake or wrong, but with the proper lessons instilled in me previously, my mother instilled the ability to discern right from wrong and the reasoning to see the consequences of my actions.

[Edited on 10/4/2004 1:39:01 PM]

  • 10.04.2004 1:35 PM PDT

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Can anyone really be accused of being at fault? From what I've seen, it all boils down to ignorance. Either the child was ignorant of the fact that games/tv shows are not reality, or the parent/caretaker was ignorant of how violent the game/tv show was... Sure, ignorance doesn't erase the fact that an event has happened, but it takes one from being directly at fault; they did it, but then again, they didn't know better... Such is a problem with life... bad things happen because people tend not to be able to look at things from a disengaged point of view, and thus live narrow lives doing only what they know.

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By the way - I really want to see your results when you get done with your research.

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Posted by: stupidhead
Whats scapegoat? never knew a word like that exsisted


If you don't understand something, my suggestion to you is simple; use a dictionary. There are online dictionaries, and dictionaries as compilations of paper into what we call books. Look it up next time. You'll just end up looking stupid, and there are some very nasty people around.

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Posted by: stupidhead
Whats scapegoat? never knew a word like that exsisted


If you don't understand something, my suggestion to you is simple; use a dictionary. There are online dictionaries, and dictionaries as compilations of paper into what we call books. Look it up next time. You'll just end up looking stupid, and there are some very nasty people around.


Such as you Psyched? Heh. But good advice.

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Just show them a few clips of Halo and tell them how kewl it is.

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Look t.v. shows looks like a link! What the hell!

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I play Halo and other violent videogames all the time, and I'm perfectly fine! *melees friend in the back of the head* Ha ha , I got you! Now you have to wait until you respawn.

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