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Subject: Halo 3 will Ruin the Gamer Rep System
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I don't play Halo 2 very often anymore, but after playing last night I realized Halo3 will destroy the integrity of the Gamer Rep System. I'm really not sure how valuable the Gamer rep system is to most and how many people really pay attention to it, but when entering games, I will browse the Gamer Reps to see if there is an A hole in the lobby, at which time I gracefully bow out.


Last night I was in a game where a guy's entire team quit and he stayed in to play us. Through his vocabulary and the pitch of his voice, it was easy to surmise he was a young adolescent. He was a very talented player who actually put up a nice fight, but in the end lost. In the post game lobby he started hurling insults about how we didn't play him straight up, how we used cheese tactics (although he used the PP/BR Combo the entire match) along with some fine Spanish swear words. The reason I bring this up is we did nothing out of the ordinary except triple team him and wear him down, yet it ticked him off enough to say those things in the post game lobby. Obviously, anyone who has played Halo 2 with any sort of consistency has had this happen to them a hundred times. I don't pay any attention to it, but last night it made me think about Gamer Rep. Now, if this was Halo 3, what do you think the odds are that he would leave some negative feedback? Anyone who plays Halo 3 with any sort of regularity will have a Gamer Rep of a 1/2 star due to children and hormonal adolescents leaving bad feedback.


I take pride in knowing people enjoy playing with me. I also like to know who I'm getting into a game with. What is MS going to do about the upcoming Gamer Rep problem that Halo 3 will most certainly cause? What could they do about it, if anything? Gamer Rep is a great tool if used properly, and I am very happy with it's inclusion into the 360 landscape, but it will quickly be ruined if steps aren't taken now.

  • 07.17.2006 1:19 PM PDT
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There isn't anything Bungie can do. This is a problem with the gaming community itself.

  • 07.17.2006 1:24 PM PDT

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6 Minutes of Hell video here

the only thing can see to do is encourage people to leave positive feedback when they have good games. Hopefully the mature will out number the immature.

  • 07.17.2006 1:28 PM PDT

i see you point but i don't think it will be that bad and the ones who would leave bad feedback for no reason wouldn't have any rep at all

  • 07.17.2006 1:28 PM PDT

I put on pants for this?

bungie will most likely include their own type or form of gamer feedback to go along with reputation. this has probably been thought out for a long time.

  • 07.17.2006 1:30 PM PDT
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maybe when you have a low rating, your feedback would not be as much as someone with good feedback.

  • 07.17.2006 1:31 PM PDT
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I am fully aware of that. That's why I asked what will MS do, not Bungie. MS has to find a way to track what kind of feedback players are giving. If a certain GT is leaving 20 negatives a session, then MS needs to pull that info aside and negate the feedback they are giving.

  • 07.17.2006 1:32 PM PDT
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You can only give one player review to either prefer or avoid a person. Not much else can be done.

  • 07.17.2006 1:40 PM PDT
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Posted by: The Gunshark 360
You can only give one player review to either prefer or avoid a person. Not much else can be done.



I mean negative feedback on everyone. Fortunately you can't leave multiple negatives on one person. But if some meathead is leaving negative feedback on everyone he faces, then you know it's probably not everyone, it's probably him.

  • 07.17.2006 1:42 PM PDT
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I'm not worried about the Gamer Rep because of Halo 3. I want my gamerrep to be solid so I can get into other games as a preferred player.

  • 07.17.2006 3:33 PM PDT
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We left before you came.

You don't seem to understand that n**bs on XBL are as numerous as the Flood.

  • 07.17.2006 3:34 PM PDT
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Three things that should ease your fears with the rep system:

- It decreases the weight of negative feedback given by those who leave negative feedback on a majority of players they encounter.
- If a player has a low rating, the feedback they leave does not carry as much weight.
- All the players that take no feedback action against you help your gamer rep. If people don't leave any feedback on you, it will help.

  • 07.17.2006 3:38 PM PDT
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We've been here since you left.
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Why don't you just turn off your headset? All you hear is the little kids whining everytime you kill them.

  • 07.17.2006 3:39 PM PDT
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Posted by: spesalfred
the only thing can see to do is encourage people to leave positive feedback when they have good games. Hopefully the mature will out number the immature.


Yah, but that's the problem. Most people only leave feedback when they are mad. No one wants to take the time to leave good feed back on everyone they play with. I think MS or Bungie should make the feedback option more accessible when playing games or right after a match.

  • 07.17.2006 3:46 PM PDT
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I like to leave positive feedback all the time

  • 07.17.2006 4:34 PM PDT
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Posted by: ADiC327
Posted by: spesalfred
the only thing can see to do is encourage people to leave positive feedback when they have good games. Hopefully the mature will out number the immature.


Yah, but that's the problem. Most people only leave feedback when they are mad. No one wants to take the time to leave good feed back on everyone they play with. I think MS or Bungie should make the feedback option more accessible when playing games or right after a match.


Feedback happens right after the game itself, meaning knee-jerk reactions constitute most of the Gamer Rep system. Do knee-jerk reactions tend to be positive or negative. It's like the referee in sports. If they do a good job, people don't notice them because they got what they expected out of them. Their good job is swept under the rug. It's only when they make a bad call that the refs are noticed.

  • 07.17.2006 4:42 PM PDT

"Thoughts are the shadows of feelings; always darker, emptier, and simpler."

I only leave feedback if they have sid the locked "F" word numerous times towards ME. Or if they modded. And a bunch of other stuff blah blah blah etc etc.

  • 07.17.2006 5:10 PM PDT
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Think about it this way. If you have one or two matches where the people rate you bad then that's fine. You play another match and be nice and the guys will give you a good rating. The rating system isn't ment for your skill level, it's ment for how you are as a player. If it was for your skill level then people would just get their friend's to boost them. I don't see the problem. Not to mention the new system, on the 360, all of the Gamerzones. That twelve year old that you played will probably go into the Underground category. It all works itself out. I don't see the problem.

  • 07.17.2006 5:16 PM PDT
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This Problem is really simple.
If someone leaves feedback on you because you beat them. Not because of legitimate reasons. Then simply leave Misuse of the feedback system on that person.

But uhh. I am glade though. To many people have 5 stars. Jerks or not.

  • 07.17.2006 5:41 PM PDT
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The problem being that the feedback system is anonymous, which makes the "abuse of Feedback" option useless.

  • 07.17.2006 5:42 PM PDT
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Things like this already happen. The rep system is imperfect. But with all of the little kiddies.....it will be much worse.

  • 07.17.2006 5:45 PM PDT
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Well.
You can see when your rep is affected.
Besides. many people don't leave bad feedback every time they are beat.

And If you don't want bad feedback.
Don't be a Jerk.

  • 07.17.2006 5:47 PM PDT