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First off, I mean the pistol, in its original format, not those ones you guys come up with, that have less power, this is for the people who want the unabridged unfiddled with one.

Anyway, here's why.

The pistol IS overpowered, it truly is. I was playing with my brother, he had a shotgun, and I the pistol, he shot, I shot, I killed him before he got the second shotgun shot off. This took place about 10 feet away, close enough for the shotgun to be effective.

Secondly, for those of you who say the magnum is wimpy, you're wrong, the magnum is incredibly useful. It is great for headshots, it takes more skill to use than the original pistol. I love using the magnum and SMG, or just the magnum. you know why?

Because when they make the weapons [ as in Bungie ] they make them with one thing in mind--sacrifice.

And by this I mean. All weapons are made with like a meter, you have 10 points, you distribute these points evenly for some weapons, and not evenly for others. Every weapon is supposed tot be unique, with the exception of a few. They make it so every weapon has its advantages and disadvantages.

For instance, the rocket launcher, they distributed the points to power and blast radius, and took away from reload time and clip size. See?

The reason for this exception is that there should naturally be a weapon people want. It's neccesary, but it shouldn't be an actual sidearm, which is what the pistol is !

The pistol is to strong for a pistol, I think that the only way the pistol should be back in , is if it is never a starting weapon.

And even so, I want me Halo 3 to be individual, not Halo 2 the 2nd edition, or whatever, somebody said this.

I think that Bungie did a spectacular job with the weapons in Halo 2. They seemed much more realistic, I admit the Needler could use a little work, but for the rest of the weapons, everything is sacrificed to have it's own individual skills. The BR is very good in medium sized maps, accurate, not as fast, but powerful too. It's a very balanced weapon.

Imagine if the BR could fire like the AR, not fun.

And another point. Stop saying that they should take out the sword or whatnot. You guys have to get that people will never be content with the weapon.

For instance--

The Sword - It's the best weapon, seriously, you love it, you're unstoppable, untill the other team gets it, you hate it! Cheap n00b weapon. I hate it.

Same goes for the rocket launcher.

So all in all, you have to realize that every weapon has a unique advantage for every map, it's up to you to figure out how to use it to your advantage.

And for those people who say "Dual Rockets and Swords." Please shut up, you want to use them, maybe for campaign only, but still, just...shut up. It's just not cool.


Alright, flame we, whatever. Just comment.
If you're going to be an idiot, at least type in ENGLISH.

[Edited on 7/18/2006]

  • 07.18.2006 1:16 PM PDT
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ok first of all,bring back the halo 1 pistol and take out the sword.second of all,we can say whatever the f**k we want to say.

  • 07.18.2006 1:21 PM PDT
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Ok, you can say it, some people correct you. I can say whatever the f**k I want also.

  • 07.18.2006 1:22 PM PDT
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now we're all f**king happy.

  • 07.18.2006 1:25 PM PDT
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Well good post, i agree with basically everything you said, especially the things about the rocket launcher and sword.

  • 07.18.2006 1:25 PM PDT
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We've been here since you left.
We left before you came.

Look at any Halo Montage, the players mostly use the pistol and will you rarely ever see a montage mainly focus around the sword, or even mention the sword. Pistol should stay, Sword should have ammo in multiplayer. It's like having a rocket launcher with unlimited ammo.

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  • 07.18.2006 1:25 PM PDT
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Isn't the Pistol from Halo: CE basically the Battle Rifle from Halo 2? They both kill in about the same time(the Pistol a little faster) and they both have the same scope.

I don't know, just my thoughts.

  • 07.18.2006 1:26 PM PDT
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Thanks Will, I feel all warm inside.

  • 07.18.2006 1:26 PM PDT
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Wow that was a good thread.

  • 07.18.2006 1:26 PM PDT
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The Battle Rifle is much much different than the pistol in Halo: Combat Evolved. And smoothi, I'm not getting it, do you mean the magnum should stay? And yea, I've been thinking about the ammo part, that might be best for it.

  • 07.18.2006 1:28 PM PDT
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I agree with everything you said 100%.

The person with the sword isn't even that hard to kill. Grab a shotgun or a sniper and he's pretty much screwed. Try using stradegy to take him out instead of charging him like an idiot with the smg.

The halo 1 pistol is way overpowered. If You had a choice of a rocket launcher, sniper, ar, shotgun, pistol, or any other weapon you would probably take the pistol. It can take out a sniper!

  • 07.18.2006 1:39 PM PDT
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For the most part i do agree that the pistol from Halo CE should not be brought back. However i think that the sword should not be taken out but should have ammo and take 2 strikes to kill you or a least lessen the range of the lunge i mean i can be shooting a guy from medium range with a BR straight in the head and if i miss one shot slash i am dead. However i do think that it should be left in the game and that no matter what people should just stop crying about the choices that bungie makes cause that is the way they wanted it so that is how it will be.

  • 07.18.2006 1:39 PM PDT
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Spartan10799, are you saying I said take out the Sword? I want it, it's good, the ammo thing might be a good idea, but I don't want it to be toned down, have there be like 10 strikes or something, that way no one can win the game with it.

  • 07.18.2006 1:42 PM PDT
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Posted by: MisterCHIEF69
yea sword has to be 1 hit kill, why bruteshot is 2 hit kill and fast malle....so this is halo2 now
Sword-1 hit
Brute shot- 2 hits
otherguns-3-4 hits

if sword was 2 hits it would be
sword-2 hit
bruteshot-3-4 hit
otherguns-5-6 hits
imigine that, having to hit someone 6 times to kill them (malle not shooting)



I've been killed by a pistol in 2 hits with full shields.

  • 07.18.2006 1:50 PM PDT

It's all fun and games until someone gets impaled with an energy sword.

I completely agree with everything you say. The pistol should stay the same. I did, however, like it much more before the first update. The battle rifle is much more logical than a little pistol if you want accuracy.

  • 07.18.2006 1:52 PM PDT
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leave the M6D out. but here is an idea for the sword, make it have ammo, and a 1 hit kill but take out the lunge. sounds balaced to me.

  • 07.18.2006 2:11 PM PDT

Dawn of the Dead video Here
6 Minutes of Hell video here

I loved the sword in halo pc. I hate it in halo 2, reguardless of who has it.
Now I know some of you are going to say wait, there isn't a sword in halo pc. Well thanks to some mods, we actually had one. It was a plasma rifle that couldnt shoot, had a one hit melee kill, and had a longer range than the plasma rifle. That is what it should be in halo 3. Not a gravity bending sword, that allows you to fly to enemys for one hit kills, something that takes skill.

I see why the lunge would be required, it would be too hard to kill anyone without it. So here is a solution. You hold down the right trigger with the sword, and you stop moving and build up a charge. Once that is done you release it and do a rather large leap forward and slash. Much like what the gold elites do in halo CE.

Basicly, I don't want to see a physic's defying lunge again.

  • 07.18.2006 2:26 PM PDT
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Hmm, well, that was a mod. And you say that it could shoot? No way man.
The thing about the lunge is, that it's unrealistic, that's what makes it cool. Do you think that an alien race with the ability to destroy man kind is real? Well.....maybe.

But to build up a charge? That's just to not.....cool. I guess. I think that it would be more realistic, but would make it not fun. Because people are moving all the time. The chance of you actually hitting them is almost nil.

  • 07.18.2006 2:30 PM PDT
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Posted by: xXSm00thi3Xx
...Sword should have ammo in multiplayer. It's like having a rocket launcher with unlimited ammo.

Can a sword destroy a vehicle or kill from ranges greater than ten feet? I think not.

  • 07.18.2006 2:36 PM PDT
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Well good post man but basically I love the pistol i think it should be more powerful than it is now..(BUT NOT AS POWERFUL AS HALO1) Also the sword is a great weapon to keep but it definitly needs to have a point where it can no longer be used justlike in halo2 campaign.

  • 07.18.2006 2:54 PM PDT
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Posted by: MissionHill
Alright, flame we, whatever. Just comment.
If you're going to be an idiot, at least type in ENGLISH.


I disagree with pretty much every statement you made. You give poor examples. "The pistol is too powerfull because I killed my brother with it from 10 feet away."

Stupid.

  • 07.18.2006 3:14 PM PDT

Dawn of the Dead video Here
6 Minutes of Hell video here

The fact that it can defy physics doesn't make it fun, it makes it cheap and annoying. A lunge is fine, as long as you have to be on solid ground to do it.

  • 07.18.2006 3:15 PM PDT