- last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT
Posted by: Vitamin Zawaz
Posted by: MissionHill
Hmm, what? I just missed like a whole page of stuff.
Oh..... Vitamin Zawaz doesn't get my point.
Dude. The Pistol [I mean the one in Hal:CE, otherwise magnum] is unbalanced for a pistol.LMAO...no, I don't think you understand MY point, Watson...do not consider realism when it comes to Halo....realism just doesn't belong...and saying that the Halo 1 pistol was unbalanced for a pistol is the same as saying that it's unrealistic.
The Sniper Rifle would own on every map? Sheesh, have you played Lockout? Seriously, it doesn't own, the sniper rifle trades clip size and reload time for power and accuracy. You just don't understand what I'm saying....So, what you're saying is...if I'm 200 feet away from you and I have a sniper rifle, and you don't have a pistol, you can beat me? Yeah....whatever...
Every weapon is created with an advantage in mind, The BR, effective and close and short range, not as fast though. Get it?Yeah, Halo 1 followed this same principle...look, there must be a balancing weapon in each game. Without a weapon to equalize everything, then gameplay becomes unbalanced. In Halo 1, it was the pistol. Why? It formed a bridge between sniper rifles and close-range weapons. In Halo 2, it was the carbine, for the same reason.
I explained in my other post each advantage that the Halo 1 weapons have...the plasma rifle was for slowing down opponents if they were trying to escape...the plasma pistol was useful for taking out overshields and because of its twitch-fire. The needler was good for firing strands of needles that wind along paths to take out a medium-range sniper...the rocket launcher was useful against vehicles...the assault rifle was good as a backup weapon and as a close-range attacker, or it can be used to mp up a weakened group of opponents...the shotgun was the best short-range weapon...the sniper rifle was for sniping...the flamethrower was for clearing out groups of close enemies, but you could kill yourself in the act...the fuel rod gun was like a rocket launcher, but it could volley over tricky areas...every weapon served a purpose.
In Halo 2, you have three automatic weapons: The SMG, PR, and BPR. The PR lost its freeze effect, so all three weapons are the complete opposite of unique.
The beam rifle is identical to the sniper rifle. The sword is like the shotgun. There are too many similar weapons in Halo 2.
SMG, effective at close range, double effective in dual-wield, trades accuracy for dual wielding capability.Another reason I dislike the SMG: it was nowhere near as reliable as the AR was. First off, the AR had plenty of rounds. The SMG lacks not only the punch, but the ammo capacity. I like to use a single weapon. Using two at the same time just further proves my point that the SMG is weak.
The least is so on so forth. I've seen many people get my point.
You like the weapon, when your using it. Then reverse it, you hate it.
The sword was designed for close quarters. Solution? The sniper rifle, rockets, shotgun [possibly].As I said before...that's not my problem...my problem is, the sword is too damne easy to use at close range...yeah okay, so you gave me a list of long range weapons to use. But what short range solutions are there against the sword besides the completely random shotgun? None.
All I'm saying for both of my points is that the pistol is overpowered, for a pistol, a pistol should be a sidearm, not something you just pick up.Like I said a million freaking times before...the game is set in the future...they probably upgraded the pistols...
And not every weapon is supposed to be balanced. Every weapon takes some amount of skill to use. You can't just run into a room with the Sword, you have to plan it, and execute very fast. I get shot down on a daily basis if I have the sword. By someone who has exceptionally good agility and a shotgun.Why isn't every weapon supposed to be balanced?
And you still don't get what I mean...the sword. Is. Too. Easy. to. Use. Lunge at someone. How often does the lunge hit them? 99% of the time...
The pistol should not come back, I'm happy with the magnum.A weapon that requires you to use two clips of headshots to kill someone. Yeah, I agree, the magnum rocks.[/sarcasm]
Some weapons are made to be effective against shields and no shields. The magnum is useful against no shields, whereas the plasma pistol is not. See?Yes, I see...instead, the plasma pistol's charge can curve up to 90 degrees to take down shields. That's perfectly balanced...[/sarcasm]
The magnum traded power against shields for accuracy, firing speed, and dual weild ability, as far as I'm concerned, the magnum is better than the pistol from Halo:CE, because it has more strategy to it, it takes more skill to use but has trickier benifits.It does take quite a bit of skill to use, but the pistol from Halo 1 is more balanced because it's not as weak, but didn't have much auto-aim...
The sword takes skill to use, the magnum takes skill to use, I don't want to hear more stuff about how the pistol should be brought back and the sword taken away. They are both good weapons.I've already explained that the sword is skill-less...Ok...
* Sure, but with duel weilding, the pistol would practically the most powerful thing on the map. If damage remained the same like with the Sniper.
* Your saying Lockout is 200 feet in long/wide?
* I agree with the fields thing in a way.
* Yes, they changed it so it would better fit duel weilding. I liked that actually. And you failed to see the SMG uniquness. Throw a grenade into a frenzy and prepare to get a triple kill. IT easily takes out banshees. IF you don't like duel weilding. Then pick up a Battle Rifle. I find duel smg's powerful, it takes 25 shots to kill an opponent with a single SMG. Duel Weilded, this can be the equivalent 13 shots, less than it takes with the assault Rifle. But with the assault rfile coming back, you can either have more power or more range. It would balance out. Along with that, how is the sword liek the shotgun? Seriously? So swords shoot out little 8 gauge magnum pellets? Does the shotgun lunge and has unlimited ammo? No. Stop trying to compare two clearly diffrent weapons.
* To defend yourself against a sword, you can always use Plasma Grenades, Duel weilding a Plasma Pistol with a Magnum, which kills very quick. Or if you must the "noob" combo.
* I agree the magnum was weak after the update. See my posts for a M6B.
* Stop using the term auto aim, your saying that if an enemy goes in front of my crosshair I follow him around everywhere(aiming wise)? No.