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Subject: Halo 3, The return of the Halo 1 pistol!

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Why ruin a good conversation??? I am not looking at the weapons asa whole nor am I suggesting new weapons, I made a thread to get a reaction by people reagarding the return of the pistol from Halo 1 to Halo 3.

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  • 07.18.2006 6:24 PM PDT

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Strip off the long magazine that sticks out of the barrel and the scope thing ontop and it resembles the MAgnum. Hell, I have some action figures, I got both pistols and they are the same size. You can think the old pistol was big, but if you think about it Needlers, Plasma Rifles, and SMGs are bigger. Adn we can duel weild them.


Have you even played Halo CE? The magazine doesn't stick out of the barrel. It's in the same place most pistol magazines are. And what scope thing on top? There is no scope on top.
The think ontop of the end of the barrel. Looks like a type of scope to me. Lift it up, look through it. The guns were reletivly the same size either way.

The magazine is sticking out...and the thing ontop is clearly a scope.

let's get back to the main discussion.

The thing on top is what ejects the rouns, since there's no sight on the pistol.

Before, you said there was a magazine coming out of the barrel..lol.

  • 07.18.2006 6:24 PM PDT
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I did? Damn I need to go to bed earlier.

  • 07.18.2006 6:28 PM PDT

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The only think less practical than a scope on a pistol is a bayonet on a pistol.

I think everyone is looking at this from their own skill perspective. If you were good with the pistol in Halo 1 then you'd like to see it back so you can get kills. If you weren't good with it they you don't want it back so you don't get killed by it. I think we should all trust bungie to come up with something that is a fair compromise to everybody.

  • 07.18.2006 6:39 PM PDT
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I think they should have a new pistol that is not as good as the one in halo 1 but not as crappy as the one in halo 2.And yes someone probably already said something like this but im saying it anyway.

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  • 07.18.2006 6:53 PM PDT

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2 words that kill the return of the pistol...

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enough said

  • 07.18.2006 7:13 PM PDT
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Let me answer this with a big fat, NO!!!!!
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  • 07.18.2006 7:23 PM PDT
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Posted by: davidk75
The only think less practical than a scope on a pistol is a bayonet on a pistol.

I don't think that the Pistol didn't have a scope. I think that the Master Chief zoomed in with it with a program with his visor.

Posted by: davidk75
I think everyone is looking at this from their own skill perspective. If you were good with the pistol in Halo 1 then you'd like to see it back so you can get kills. If you weren't good with it they you don't want it back so you don't get killed by it. I think we should all trust bungie to come up with something that is a fair compromise to everybody.

I wasn't really good with the Pistol, but I want it back just so that the gameplay is balanced and more skilled.

Posted by: spelmaster5
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enough said

You wouldn't have to duel-wield the Pistol. You could duel-wield the other weapons, but the Pistol skin could just be large so that it would be too big to duel-wield it with another weapon.

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Thing is. Consider an m6B like I said, you could sitll kill in three shots, just have to duel weild, I find that much more satisfying.

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The great thing about the Pistol was that everybody spawned with one so that everybody had a chance to fight back against somebody with a strong weapon. If somebody had to duel-wield the Pistols to make them strong, then not everybody would spawn with a strong weapon and the game wouldn’t be as balanced as it was in Halo 1.

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Posted by: SatanInASweater
The great thing about the Pistol was that everybody spawned with one so that everybody had a chance to fight back against somebody with a strong weapon. If somebody had to duel-wield the Pistols to make them strong, then not everybody would spawn with a strong weapon and the game wouldn’t be as balanced as it was in Halo 1.
Well you still have a chance with 6-8 shots. A very good chance I might add. Remember that the pistol got a higher firing rate in Halo 2. Something along the lines of that. And you have grenades/faster reload, so it balances out.

  • 07.18.2006 7:54 PM PDT
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I cant understand how one can think the Pistol takes alot of skill. You can kill with the most dominate weapon in the game. Big deal! It doesnt take that much skill to kill people with a dominate weapon. It does not take that much skill to shoot someone in the head 3 times with 12 rounds of ammo per clip. Not to mention it can be used for any scenario.(close range, midrange, long range.) Id argue this is a NOOB weapon. NOOBs want to only use 1 weapon, and want to get easy kills with it, because they are NOT skilled enough to adapt to new weapons. It actually takes strategy when you have to chose between weapons when it is balanced.

It is shameful that I dont see any valid arguments for the Pistol, all I see is " you only disagree because you arent skilled". The argument should be is the Pistol balanced? We all know Bungie cares about balance In Halo CE no one used any other weapon than the Pistol. What fun is this? A game should not be about 1 weapon dominating.


Instead of sitting here and calling us unskilled becuase we disagree. Please tell me how you would make the Halo CE pistol balanced ?

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  • 07.18.2006 8:19 PM PDT
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The Pistol from Halo 1 was not the best weapon at any range. It was simply a good weapon at every range. The Shotgun and the Plasma Rifle were better than the Pistol at close ranges, the Rocket Launcher was better than the Pistol at moderate ranges, and the Sniper Rifle was better than the Pistol at long ranges. If somebody completely or almost completely relied on the Pistol, then they would eventually get killed by somebody who grabs a weapon that would be better than the Pistol in that weapon's respective range.

You argue that the Pistol doesn't take much skill just because it is effective, but by this logic, the Sniper Rifle is even less skilled than the Pistol because it can kill in just one shot. However, it's difficult to use the Sniper Rifle because it doesn't have much aim assistance or bullet magnetism, and the Pistol doesn't have much aim assistance or bullet magnetism, either (it has a little bit more aim assistance and bullet magnetism than the Sniper Rifle and it has a larger magazine capacity, but it's also less effective than the Sniper Rifle in terms of strength and accuracy).

Last, the Pistol from Halo 1 was balanced because everybody spawned with one with the Generic Weapon Spawn System. A weapon can't be unbalanced if everybody has one (or, at least, it wouldn't make the gameplay unbalanced, which is the most important part of the game). The Pistol actually made Halo 1 balanced because everybody could spawn with a weapon that they could use to effectively attack somebody with a strong weapon.

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  • 07.18.2006 8:35 PM PDT
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I think they should combine the pistol with the magnum to make a new,more effeicient weapon.If they do that then it can be called.

M6AA
Clip:12
Ammo able to carry:24(dualweildable ammo up to 48)
Scope:2x(with the help or the MCs armor)
Kill time:3-4secs?(if really good and have become one with the weapon like on halo1.Now im talkin like MLGs from around the world.)5-6secs for unskilled players or players who just use it cause its a weapon(maybe thats y people used the halo1 pistol! cause it was just another wep but further into my new weapon!)
Bodyshots kill:8
Headshots kill:6(5 into armor 1 into head)
Reload speed:3-4secs(dualweilded 6-7 secs)
Melee speed:moderalty fast
Melee hits to kill:2-3



So hope you guys like the idea if not then......all well im just tryin to come up with stuff!




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  • 07.19.2006 2:36 AM PDT
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