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Subject: Is Master Cheif's Life Span Connected to Cortana's?!

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How many of you have read the Halo Novels? If you have, you may or may not have noticed a little bit of information about certain types of AIs (particularly in The Fall of Reach). You see, most of the Artificially Intelligent computer programs used by the UNSC are simply made up of lines of code (albeit self modifying lines of code). Seeing that these are only programs, they have no actual personality. In some cases though, an AI is created with the purpose of having a specific personality. Any Ideas on whome I am speaking of? Cortana of course! The way a personality is incorporated with the programming is simply (or perhaps not-so-simply) by using a human brain with a wet-ware connection. Now, the brain itself is not in the head of an actual human; for one specific reason. The average AI, endowed with a mind of it's own, will live...LIVE...to only about 7 years of age. That is, after a certain time consuming data, the AI will eventually destroy the brain it is using. I suppose you're asking: "How does this have anything to do with Master Cheif / MC / SPARTAN-117 / John?" Well, in case you didn't know. Cortana was chosen to be paired with MC. That means, after so many years of use, John will ultimately be killed by Cortana. Now, I don't want to frighten anybody, but it is a total possibility. The only pieces of data that might go against his death is:

A. Cortana was originally incorporated into a clone of Dr. Halsey's (mother of the SPARTANs) brain. Cortana could possibly still be using it.

B. Cortana often choses to leave the Cheif's Brain. This could either mean that she will deteriorate his brain tissue at a slower pace, or that she has quite possibly found a superior way of storing data while not lossing her own personality.

Whether or not Master Cheif dies, Cortana will. Depending on the distance between The Fall of Reach (Cortana is Created) and Halo 3 (???) this may somehow fit into the story. I can't see either character dieing from something so trivial (in H3) simply because I don't believe that enough time has passed for total annihilation of the brain to occur, but you might want to keep it in mind.

  • 07.19.2006 9:09 AM PDT
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NO

  • 07.19.2006 9:20 AM PDT
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I never knew she was in his brain...
I always thought she was just in his helmet, and speaking to him through speakers or something...
oh well, you learn something new every day...
Unless its a load of BS

  • 07.19.2006 9:22 AM PDT
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Cortana's program was created using Dr. Hasley's brainwaves. And the part about how she dies eventually has nothing to do with killing off her host's brain. A person's personality is basically a series of electrical synapses that occur in the brain whenever the person reacts to something in their environment. Cortana's personality is purely electrical, meaning that it exists only as thousands of lines of binary code in cyberspace. The part about an A.I. like Cortana having a 7-year life span deals with how much information the A.I. can store and process before it's systems overload, crash, and the A.I. literally "thinks" itself to death. The more information an A.I. absorbs, the shorter their lifespan is. Cortana, for example, has had her lifespan shortened drastically due to all the info she has absorbed about the Covenant, Flood, and Forerunners from the Halo installations and from Covenant ships. This is one of the theories as to why she appears corrupted during the transmission in the Halo 3 trailer, because her program has become corrupted from all the information she has gained and that Gravemind is trying to control her for his own means.

To answer your question: No, Master Chief's life span is not connected to Cortana's in any way.

  • 07.19.2006 9:23 AM PDT
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Also for the kiddies

Cortana can make copies of herself thanks to the Covenant A.I.

Meaning she can make a copy of herself before her Span is over.

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Posted by: Milkie
Also for the kiddies

Cortana can make copies of herself thanks to the Covenant A.I.

Meaning she can make a copy of herself before her Span is over.


Yes, she can make copies of herself, however these copies aren't as good as the original. If she continuously uses the process, which I believe is what you're saying, she'll soon end up with the computational capacity of a six-toed redneck opossum baby.

  • 07.19.2006 9:33 AM PDT
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Nay

I remember her saying that if she had time she could create an EXACT copy of herself just like how the Covenant A.I. does.

She only creat the incomplete compy because they were short on time and had to hurry back to earth.

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  • 07.19.2006 9:36 AM PDT

No, her life expectancy(sp) is only 7 years unless she uses the mass of her memory dotreing informetion. Now if the master chief dies and cortana is attached to him in his suit then she will die. But the master chief and cortana are attached in the suit through the network that in it that attached the suit to the chiefs nervus system.

at least thats how the book explain it

  • 07.19.2006 9:43 AM PDT

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The copying is a fruitless process used by the Covie AI's. Say Cortana made an exact replica and had only one minute to live, the copy would have only one minute to live also. The upside of making copies, they degenerate after each one...which happened in the Unyielding Hierophant..and long story short, there were so many cortanas that all the computers didnt work. It was a virus, the cortana worm ;p simply continued to copy itself and cause all comouter thingamajigs to die.

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  • 07.19.2006 9:43 AM PDT
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no it uses a brain to get its "smartness" and then the AI is loaded onto a memory chip

  • 07.19.2006 10:22 AM PDT

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Posted by: Milkie
Also for the kiddies

Cortana can make copies of herself thanks to the Covenant A.I.

Meaning she can make a copy of herself before her Span is over.


Wouldn't work. If Cortona was, say, 2 years old and made a copy of itself, there would be two 2 year-old A.I.'s, not a 2-year-old and a brand new A.I.

Master Chief's life is not connected to Cortana's. His brain was edited to be connectable to his helmet which was made to be able to put in Cortana or other "chips", not connected forever. Otherwise, he wouldn't be able to take Cortana out of his "head" before.

I'm not even that much of a Halo nerd, but I think I answered your questions good enough, no?

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  • 07.19.2006 10:30 AM PDT
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I'm not the one asking the questions

  • 07.19.2006 10:49 AM PDT
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M.C IS A CYBORG. THE GAME SAID. SO HE WAS MADE.(GRAVMIND SAID HE OF MACHINE AND METEL AND HAS HIS MIND CONCLUDED) MEANING HE THINKS FOR HIM SELF. BUT CORTANA CAN MERGE WITH HIS MIND SHE CAN EVEN CONTROLE HIM. AT THE BEGINING OF HALO 1 WHEN SHE WAS PUT IN HIS HELMET SHE SAID
HIS STRUCTURE IS LIKE THE AUTUMN. HE SAID DONT GET ANY FUNNY IDEAS.
SORRY IF THIS OFF TOPIC.

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No..they're made from neural energy, or whatever causes though..and it needs to be taken from a brain.

She doesn't 'use' it, since it's actually part of her code, and she doesn't 'use' the Chief's brain -- she simply increases his reaction slightly more, and gives him important intel.

  • 07.19.2006 2:11 PM PDT

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One final effort is all that remains
And I am not afraid
We shall fulfill our promise
We fight for the grace of the Mantle
And this time none of you will be left behind

Hey, Mr. Types-in-caps, Cortona can not control MC, and Cortona said his structure is similar to everyone else, not the Autumn. You need to get your ears and brain cleaned out, and I'm sure your nose is clean enough ( 78% of the people who read this sentence will not understand the joke in it..).

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  • 07.20.2006 8:04 AM PDT
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Posted by: Milkie
Also for the kiddies

Cortana can make copies of herself thanks to the Covenant A.I.

Meaning she can make a copy of herself before her Span is over.


However, those copies lifespans won't be continued. When she dies, they die. The best she could do was simply copy different codes of herself to those copies.

  • 07.20.2006 8:23 AM PDT
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No dude

Cortana CANNOT controle John

Posted by: litkid17
M.C IS A CYBORG. THE GAME SAID. SO HE WAS MADE.(GRAVMIND SAID HE OF MACHINE AND METEL AND HAS HIS MIND CONCLUDED) MEANING HE THINKS FOR HIM SELF. BUT CORTANA CAN MERGE WITH HIS MIND SHE CAN EVEN CONTROLE HIM. AT THE BEGINING OF HALO 1 WHEN SHE WAS PUT IN HIS HELMET SHE SAID
HIS STRUCTURE IS LIKE THE AUTUMN. HE SAID DONT GET ANY FUNNY IDEAS.
SORRY IF THIS OFF TOPIC.


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  • 07.20.2006 8:36 AM PDT
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That's right. My plumage is brighter than yours.

Posted by: Milkie
No dude

Cortana CANNOT controle John


You mean me? What I said was 'When she dies, they (her copies) die,'

  • 07.20.2006 8:37 AM PDT
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No i was talking to the other guy

I forgot to quote him

  • 07.20.2006 8:39 AM PDT
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Hey, Mr. Types-in-caps, Cortona can not control MC, and Cortona said his structure is similar to everyone else, not the Autumn. You need to get your ears and brain cleaned out, and I'm sure your nose is clean enough ( 78% of the people who read this sentence will not understand the joke in it..).


i got the joke and to answer original question no

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I suggest you read FoR agai n because you got some major things wrong and you talk to this forum like what you say is fact. Yes, Smart AIs like Cortana only have a lifespan of 7 years because it over "thinks" itself to death. The AI isn't linked to the brain the way you say it is. If the AI dies the human doesn't just die because of it.

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Read about the Forgotten Spartan I Program
Butane: To protect the world from devastation!
sir_brilliant: To unite all people within our nation!
Rainman89: To denounce the evils of truth and love!
sir_brilliant: To extend out reach to the stars above!
SpaceGhostFlyer: Jessie!
Butane: James!
sir_brilliant: Team Rocket blasting off at the speed of light
Butane: Surrender now or prepare to fight
sir_brilliant: Meowth, that's right!

The Master Cheif is not a Cyborg, he has had augmentations. Also, we do not know if cortana will die at seven years, or before. it is an expected life, not her actual life. She could live a lot longer if she can stop hersefl from overthinknig.

  • 07.20.2006 9:03 AM PDT