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Subject: Kill off the Masterchief ... what difference does it make?
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Posted by: Wiltron
The "character development" for the Masterchief amounts to tough guy clichés', grunts, cries of pain, and shooting a multitude of weapons at an alien horde. Why would it matter if he was killed off in H3 right at the start? He could be replaced with Spartan Will (my personal preference), Nicole, or BillyBobJoe. It wouldn't make a difference to the game play, and that's what it's all about, right?

I am curious as to how some people can have any kind of emotional attachment to a character that is so poorly developed as a person. In truth, as a Spartan, isn't he less than a person? More of a robotic killing machine made from bone, muscle, and sinew? He doesn't even have a s3x drive for goodness sake?! Spartan Nicole, Will, or Sir Edward Higglesworth III could save the world just as well and provide the same game play experience.


Master Chief has more skill and luck then any other spartan. Many other spartans have better specific skills then him, but he has always seemed to come out on top, and he's never failed a mission.

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thank you.

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people play games casue they are fun and they like the story and characters. If you are still playing halo im pretty sure you like him jstu as much as us

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Posted by: Thing1
well they should read the books then. thats not my problem if they dont understand that


Its the case they are arguing though... Not everyone even knows their are books explaining even more. MC is a very colorful character in the books, much more than the game, but no need to kill him off in the game just cause he has no character or emotional attachement to him.


Oh, yeah, read the book that's chock full of lack of details and logic jumps such as why the Sarge is alive.

Not a real good selling point.

I'm really hoping Peter Jackson rewrites the Halo story and makes it flavorful and coherent for the movie...maybe Bungie will adopt this superior story to their storyline. Lord knows they are willing to jump ship on their story lines (see Sarge being alive).

  • 07.20.2006 9:32 AM PDT

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Posted by: wocahalo
people play games casue they are fun and they like the story and characters. If you are still playing halo im pretty sure you like him jstu as much as us


I play Halo2 multiplayer because it rocks (how could it not?). It has nothing to do with the Masterchief.

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Posted by: Marvin G4Y3
Posted by: StUnNeR H2K
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Posted by: Marvin G4Y3
Does continuity matter at this point? I mean, just look at Johnson (the Sarge)...he died in Halo 1 and he's alive again in Halo 2. Makes no sense.


johnson didnt die in halo CE


Yes he did...I don't expect you to know, though, because you obviously lacked the skills to beat the game in Legendary mode which showed him get exploded.


That wasnt part of the story... just a funny cutscene to add to the end of the game. If anyone is that concerned to know HOW he lived you can read the books or read the HGN. Not sure though if your intelligence level is high enough to read a book though....


It was a part of the story, but Bungie realized their mistake and rectified it with an obviously jumbled storyline of why the Sarge is alive. It's a real testimony to the lack of continuity in the "Halo Bible" or whatever that is called.

And I find it ironic that a home schooled (or in your case, trailer schooled) moron from BFE Oklahoma would have the audacity to insult my intelligence.


LOL... your lack of intelligence shines through :)

You are clearly someone that thinks Oklahoma is nothing but dirt and weeds with a bunch of Native Americans roaming around. In fact I barely made it to work today... some Indians about caught up to me in my covered wagon.

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Posted by: Wiltron
Posted by: wocahalo
people play games casue they are fun and they like the story and characters. If you are still playing halo im pretty sure you like him jstu as much as us


I play Halo2 multiplayer because it rocks (how could it not?). It has nothing to do with the Masterchief.


I didn't even bother playing Campaign in Halo 2 after I saw the first cut scenes where it showed the Sarge came back to life. How lame. Halo is and shall always be the great multiplayer game, though...almost as good as GoldenEye.

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well we all have our idea of whats right, thats fine, but the halo books were thoroughly written and not jumbled in any way. the author's had the halo bible. they knew exactly what was going to happen in the story.

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what if in the last moments of his life, the chief pulls off his helmet and either:

1) we are treated to a pathetic visage (a la Darth Vader)

OR

2) he's a woman and you get to play the whole game again without HER helmet on (a la Metroid!)

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Posted by: Marvin G4Y3
Posted by: Wiltron
Posted by: wocahalo
people play games casue they are fun and they like the story and characters. If you are still playing halo im pretty sure you like him jstu as much as us


I play Halo2 multiplayer because it rocks (how could it not?). It has nothing to do with the Masterchief.


I didn't even bother playing Campaign in Halo 2 after I saw the first cut scenes where it showed the Sarge came back to life. How lame. Halo is and shall always be the great multiplayer game, though...almost as good as GoldenEye.


If Johnson dieing would have been that important to show it would have been shown to everyone.... not just those that slaved to finish the campaign on Legendary...

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Posted by: Duardo
I'd love to be a 10 year old and tell my mom I'm going on an adventure out into the world catching Pokemon, with her full support. Never mind the fact that there are rapists, criminals, and murders out there, or the fact that I may get killed by a Pokemon.

Luckily I have Pikachu.

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Posted by: Wiltron
Posted by: wocahalo
people play games casue they are fun and they like the story and characters. If you are still playing halo im pretty sure you like him jstu as much as us


I play Halo2 multiplayer because it rocks (how could it not?). It has nothing to do with the Masterchief.


I didn't even bother playing Campaign in Halo 2 after I saw the first cut scenes where it showed the Sarge came back to life. How lame. Halo is and shall always be the great multiplayer game, though...almost as good as GoldenEye.


Heretic!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted by: Thing1
well we all have our idea of whats right, thats fine, but the halo books were thorughly written and not jumbled in any way. the author's had the halo bible. they knew exactly what was going to happen in the story.


I note what you said..."author's"...as if two seperate people have the same consistent idea of a story.

Having to authors write a story based off a concept might work for Hollywood scripts and sitcoms but as far as the superior medium of written novel, it clearly falls short.

Posted by: StUnNeR H2K
If Johnson dieing would have been that important to show it would have been shown to everyone.... not just those that slaved to finish the campaign on Legendary...


That's just speculation to Bungie's reasoning. It would be just as valid to say Bungie preferred to let it's most dedicated and skilled players who beat the game on Legendary in on the secret that the Sarge died on Halo.

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i dun tichnk u shuld kil massteer cheef cus he iss my hereoe. wen i wuz 10 i get beet up a lott at skool, btu tehn halo comme oout n i paly taht n mestar ciehf iss sooo pwoerful n i say to teh boolies 'hye u stpo taht ro mester cheef will get u" n tehn they lafughed n so i ptu no myy hlemet n i shoote thme wit miy gunn. loll.

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whoo is teh saergant jinhson?

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Posted by: Duardo
I'd love to be a 10 year old and tell my mom I'm going on an adventure out into the world catching Pokemon, with her full support. Never mind the fact that there are rapists, criminals, and murders out there, or the fact that I may get killed by a Pokemon.

Luckily I have Pikachu.

Posted by: wtf is bfg
i dun tichnk u shuld kil massteer cheef cus he iss my hereoe. wen i wuz 10 i get beet up a lott at skool, btu tehn halo comme oout n i paly taht n mestar ciehf iss sooo pwoerful n i say to teh boolies 'hye u stpo taht ro mester cheef will get u" n tehn they lafughed n so i ptu no myy hlemet n i shoote thme wit miy gunn. loll.


I'm not gonna read your post because you obviously do not know your bloody damn english.

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Posted by: wtf is bfg
i dun tichnk u shuld kil massteer cheef cus he iss my hereoe. wen i wuz 10 i get beet up a lott at skool, btu tehn halo comme oout n i paly taht n mestar ciehf iss sooo pwoerful n i say to teh boolies 'hye u stpo taht ro mester cheef will get u" n tehn they lafughed n so i ptu no myy hlemet n i shoote thme wit miy gunn. loll.


A strong argument for the life of the MC...I shall reconsider my stance.

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i dun tichnk u shuld kil massteer cheef cus he iss my hereoe. wen i wuz 10 i get beet up a lott at skool, btu tehn halo comme oout n i paly taht n mestar ciehf iss sooo pwoerful n i say to teh boolies 'hye u stpo taht ro mester cheef will get u" n tehn they lafughed n so i ptu no myy hlemet n i shoote thme wit miy gunn. loll.


I'm not gonna read your post because you obviously do not know your bloody damn english.


whye ur crusin?? u mest b reel madd. loll.

  • 07.20.2006 9:42 AM PDT

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Hmm...

I somehow am a bit attached to the Master Chief. I mean, look at the crazy stunts he's pulled in the books. He's a hero. The Arbiter's cool too. I think the Elites are pretty stylish and all with their swords, heirarchy, and multicolored armor and shields and all.

*sighs*

I'd feel kinda depressed if the MC died. It's just we've played so much with him.

  • 07.20.2006 9:43 AM PDT

Posted by: Duardo
I'd love to be a 10 year old and tell my mom I'm going on an adventure out into the world catching Pokemon, with her full support. Never mind the fact that there are rapists, criminals, and murders out there, or the fact that I may get killed by a Pokemon.

Luckily I have Pikachu.

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i dun tichnk u shuld kil massteer cheef cus he iss my hereoe. wen i wuz 10 i get beet up a lott at skool, btu tehn halo comme oout n i paly taht n mestar ciehf iss sooo pwoerful n i say to teh boolies 'hye u stpo taht ro mester cheef will get u" n tehn they lafughed n so i ptu no myy hlemet n i shoote thme wit miy gunn. loll.


I'm not gonna read your post because you obviously do not know your bloody damn english.


whye ur crusin?? u mest b reel madd. loll.


Of course I'm mad, I can't understand you!

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Posted by: Relentless70
Hmm...

I somehow am a bit attached to the Master Chief. I mean, look at the crazy stunts he's pulled in the books. He's a hero. The Arbiter's cool too. I think the Elites are pretty stylish and all with their swords, heirarchy, and multicolored armor and shields and all.

*sighs*

I'd feel kinda depressed if the MC died. It's just we've played so much with him.


i dunn reed teh bookes btu mestere chiif iss teh sbesste.

  • 07.20.2006 9:44 AM PDT

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Posted by: wtf is bfg
i dun tichnk u shuld kil massteer cheef cus he iss my hereoe. wen i wuz 10 i get beet up a lott at skool, btu tehn halo comme oout n i paly taht n mestar ciehf iss sooo pwoerful n i say to teh boolies 'hye u stpo taht ro mester cheef will get u" n tehn they lafughed n so i ptu no myy hlemet n i shoote thme wit miy gunn. loll.


Can't argue with that. I retract everything I've said thus far.

I <3 wtf is bfg. He's the man.

loll

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i dun tichnk u shuld kil massteer cheef cus he iss my hereoe. wen i wuz 10 i get beet up a lott at skool, btu tehn halo comme oout n i paly taht n mestar ciehf iss sooo pwoerful n i say to teh boolies 'hye u stpo taht ro mester cheef will get u" n tehn they lafughed n so i ptu no myy hlemet n i shoote thme wit miy gunn. loll.


I'm not gonna read your post because you obviously do not know your bloody damn english.


whye ur crusin?? u mest b reel madd. loll.


Of course I'm mad, I can't understand you!


y u dun goo teo schoowl??

  • 07.20.2006 9:44 AM PDT

Posted by: Duardo
I'd love to be a 10 year old and tell my mom I'm going on an adventure out into the world catching Pokemon, with her full support. Never mind the fact that there are rapists, criminals, and murders out there, or the fact that I may get killed by a Pokemon.

Luckily I have Pikachu.

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Posted by: wtf is bfg
Posted by: The BS Police
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i dun tichnk u shuld kil massteer cheef cus he iss my hereoe. wen i wuz 10 i get beet up a lott at skool, btu tehn halo comme oout n i paly taht n mestar ciehf iss sooo pwoerful n i say to teh boolies 'hye u stpo taht ro mester cheef will get u" n tehn they lafughed n so i ptu no myy hlemet n i shoote thme wit miy gunn. loll.


I'm not gonna read your post because you obviously do not know your bloody damn english.


whye ur crusin?? u mest b reel madd. loll.


Of course I'm mad, I can't understand you!


y u dun goo teo schoowl??


Learn how to spell idiot!

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Posted by: wtf is bfg
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i dun tichnk u shuld kil massteer cheef cus he iss my hereoe. wen i wuz 10 i get beet up a lott at skool, btu tehn halo comme oout n i paly taht n mestar ciehf iss sooo pwoerful n i say to teh boolies 'hye u stpo taht ro mester cheef will get u" n tehn they lafughed n so i ptu no myy hlemet n i shoote thme wit miy gunn. loll.


I'm not gonna read your post because you obviously do not know your bloody damn english.


whye ur crusin?? u mest b reel madd. loll.


Of course I'm mad, I can't understand you!


y u dun goo teo schoowl??


Learn how to spell idiot!


i-d-e-e-u-t-t. loll.

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i dun tichnk u shuld kil massteer cheef cus he iss my hereoe. wen i wuz 10 i get beet up a lott at skool, btu tehn halo comme oout n i paly taht n mestar ciehf iss sooo pwoerful n i say to teh boolies 'hye u stpo taht ro mester cheef will get u" n tehn they lafughed n so i ptu no myy hlemet n i shoote thme wit miy gunn. loll.


I'm not gonna read your post because you obviously do not know your bloody damn english.


whye ur crusin?? u mest b reel madd. loll.


Of course I'm mad, I can't understand you!


y u dun goo teo schoowl??


i hvae gnoe to sochol aolt of tiems in my lfie and i lerand how to selpl vrey good i was the bset slleper in my cslas

wtf is bfg u are esay to udrentansd why do you awylas try to selpl tinghs wnrog are you a trehe yaer old

yuor gmae is esay to paly >:)

  • 07.20.2006 9:52 AM PDT