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Could be but cortana probobly got a radio signal grom Meranda or Johnson. And she has a 7 year life span. Smart A.I.'s think themselves to death by creating to many looping chains of code and overloads the programing. She is probobly breaking down in H3 though and that is why her voice is distorted.

  • 07.20.2006 11:54 AM PDT
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or she's controled by the gravemind making her evil

  • 07.20.2006 11:56 AM PDT

Posted by: Ancient Yeti
She is probobly breaking down in H3 though and that is why her voice is distorted.

I thought that was graveminds voice over or interfering with hers.....i agree she was left on halo to blow it up but she didnt need 2

  • 07.20.2006 11:56 AM PDT

"Thoughts are the shadows of feelings; always darker, emptier, and simpler."


AIs go rampant after 7 years.

Cortana is probably being twisted by a flood brain form used by Gravemind, or some sort of Covenant AI. Probably Gravemind.

  • 07.20.2006 11:57 AM PDT
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Posted by: CPO Schwartz
I still never read anything that all AI's die after 7 years. Smart AI's are made with human brains thats why they go rampant. They are doomed to get rampant cuz they think themselves to death but they don't start rampant.


AIs die after 7 years. In it the Fall of Reach. All smart AIs are Rampant from the moment they are created.

Firstly, cortana near the end of halo 2 was to blow the reactors of in amber clad if the ring was to activate, since the arbiter didn't allow this to happen cortana had no need.

Delta Halo was activated and was moments away from wiping out all sentient life. She should have destroyed IAC and High Charity to prevent the ring from firing.

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Thank goodness some of you understand what I said, you do realise that by playing through the campaign more times it reflects worse on you, lol, obviously not.

I think we must presume she was somehow inhibited from activating the reactors, for she exibited no signs of insanity prior to those last moments.

Furthermore I think it just to infer from the announcement trailer that the cause of her seeming 'insanity' was gravemind, I do not feel it necessary to explicate this.

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Posted by: CPO Schwartz
I still never read anything that all AI's die after 7 years. Smart AI's are made with human brains thats why they go rampant. They are doomed to get rampant cuz they think themselves to death but they don't start rampant.


AIs die after 7 years. In it the Fall of Reach. All smart AIs are Rampant from the moment they are created.

Firstly, cortana near the end of halo 2 was to blow the reactors of in amber clad if the ring was to activate, since the arbiter didn't allow this to happen cortana had no need.

Delta Halo was activated and was moments away from wiping out all sentient life. She should have destroyed IAC and High Charity to prevent the ring from firing.
exactly why didn't she blow it up

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I don't think anyone knows for sure.

  • 07.20.2006 12:04 PM PDT
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Posted by: opogjijijp
Posted by: CPO Schwartz
I still never read anything that all AI's die after 7 years. Smart AI's are made with human brains thats why they go rampant. They are doomed to get rampant cuz they think themselves to death but they don't start rampant.


AIs die after 7 years. In it the Fall of Reach. All smart AIs are Rampant from the moment they are created.

Firstly, cortana near the end of halo 2 was to blow the reactors of in amber clad if the ring was to activate, since the arbiter didn't allow this to happen cortana had no need.

Delta Halo was activated and was moments away from wiping out all sentient life. She should have destroyed IAC and High Charity to prevent the ring from firing.
exactly why didn't she blow it up


She was either lying to the chief or she couldn't blow it up.

  • 07.20.2006 12:04 PM PDT

Posted by: Arie2007
Furthermore I think it just to infer from the announcement trailer that the cause of her seeming 'insanity' was gravemind, I do not feel it necessary to explicate this.

big words like explicate hurt my head.....lol just kidding

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I bet sony created the programing for Cortana! Thats why it goes bad after seven years. If microsoft was to do it, it would pwn out a couple hundred years!!! :D.

Seriously though, when the MC put her into the battle network for the covenant, some of her programing became currupt which turned her evil. Thats the real reason.

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she's evil

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Posted by: opogjijijp
Posted by: CPO Schwartz
I still never read anything that all AI's die after 7 years. Smart AI's are made with human brains thats why they go rampant. They are doomed to get rampant cuz they think themselves to death but they don't start rampant.


AIs die after 7 years. In it the Fall of Reach. All smart AIs are Rampant from the moment they are created.

Firstly, cortana near the end of halo 2 was to blow the reactors of in amber clad if the ring was to activate, since the arbiter didn't allow this to happen cortana had no need.

Delta Halo was activated and was moments away from wiping out all sentient life. She should have destroyed IAC and High Charity to prevent the ring from firing.
exactly why didn't she blow it up


She was either lying to the chief or she couldn't blow it up.


ok so smart ai's go rampent and die after 7 years can we please get off that subject and focus it towards a more proggressive conversation such as what it means to MC if she is evil so let me put it simply we get it she goes rampent and dies after 7 years

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Posted by: opogjijijp
Posted by: CPO Schwartz
I still never read anything that all AI's die after 7 years. Smart AI's are made with human brains thats why they go rampant. They are doomed to get rampant cuz they think themselves to death but they don't start rampant.


AIs die after 7 years. In it the Fall of Reach. All smart AIs are Rampant from the moment they are created.

Firstly, cortana near the end of halo 2 was to blow the reactors of in amber clad if the ring was to activate, since the arbiter didn't allow this to happen cortana had no need.

Delta Halo was activated and was moments away from wiping out all sentient life. She should have destroyed IAC and High Charity to prevent the ring from firing.


I'm not sure how you can say All smart AIs are Rampant from the moment they are created.
I read the fall of reach and nowhere is there any mention of rampancy.
Rampancy is a term from marathon, rampancy implies a kind of meglomania, an epic lunacy and the AI becomes dangerous.

Most fans put two and two together and make the connection that what happens to AI's in halo after getting overloaded with info is the same as rampancy.

AI don't start that way and it only will happen to AI made with human brains like cortana.

hear is one of the many quotes from Fall of Reach that deals with the subject.

Smart AIs like Cortana, however, had no limits on their dynamic memory-processor matrix. Knowledge and creativity could grow unchecked.

She would pay a price for her genius, however. Such growth eventually led to self-interference. Cortana would one day literally start thinking too much at the expense of her normal functions. It was as if a human were to think with so much of his brain that he stopped sending impulses to his heart and lungs.

Like all the other smart AIs that Dr. Halsey had worked with over the years, Cortana would effectively "die" after an operational life of seven years.

Normal Ai's don't die "Smart AIs like Cortana, however...."

And again they don't start this way and we only call it rampancy cuz it like what happens in marathon.

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Posted by: Ganon2
ok so smart ai's go rampent and die after 7 years can we please get off that subject and focus it towards a more proggressive conversation such as what it means to MC if she is evil so let me put it simply we get it she goes rampent and dies after 7 years


sorry your right. didn't finish my post in time to see yours. I'll stop now.

  • 07.20.2006 12:44 PM PDT

"I blame canser its going slutting itself around now so are bodys act like were aging faster stupid whore of a desies" ~ GruntX

CPO seems to understand more of this than some others. Cortana has always been one to break rules (the brain she uses belonging to Dr. Halsey), but there was never any mention of rampancy in Smart AIs after 7 years, only self destruction.

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May the Great Journey await you, may your enemies writhe in hell, and your line continue forward, and gain honor. May your scattered body go beyond the limits of your mind... Beyond the limits of our worlds, to the places our ancestors dream and sang of, and the Prophets speak of.

Posted by: CPO Schwartz
Smart AIs like Cortana, however, had no limits on their dynamic memory-processor matrix. Knowledge and creativity could grow unchecked.


Which is a Sign of Rampancy...

And again they don't start this way and we only call it rampancy cuz it like what happens in marathon.

I think that Cortana is the Product of Humanity playing around with Rampancy, If the Marathon Fans remember, Strauss wanted a way to Control Rampancy, thats why he let Durandal go rampant. (Thats probably also why the other AIs were chosen to be The Marathon AIs, Because they were easily set to Rampancy because of Traxus. (Who infected 5 other AIs with Rampancy on Mars.)

I think someone else continued Strauss' work...

EDIT: Oops, forgot something... ;-)

I think Cortana did learn a lot in the Control Room...How did she know it was called "The Gravemind"?

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Could Arie2007 please clarify for me what the word: juxtaposed means and give me a clear pronouciation for the word. Thank You

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Posted by: iblodgett
Could Arie2007 please clarify for me what the word: juxtaposed means and give me a clear pronouciation for the word. Thank You


jux·ta·posed, jux·ta·pos·ing, jux·ta·pos·es
To place side by side, especially for comparison or contrast.

  • 07.20.2006 1:12 PM PDT
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ne one ever think that cortana wanted to learn stuff about the flood via the gravemind and then somehow transfer the info to some kiind of earthly inteligence¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿&# 191;¿¿¿¿

  • 07.23.2006 9:50 AM PDT
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you're a -blam!- idiot. no one knows whats going to happen in halo 3 so your -blam!- stupidass ideas are mostlikely wrong. you stupid piece of -blam!- get a life.

  • 07.23.2006 10:14 AM PDT

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Posted by: mrmatt17
you're a -blam!- idiot. no one knows whats going to happen in halo 3 so your -blam!- stupidass ideas are mostlikely wrong. you stupid piece of -blam!- get a life.
Do I see a black listing for this guy in the near future? Whats that all knowing Chuck Norris you say he is because it's his first day and he's already flaming and telling people" to get a life"!

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  • 07.23.2006 10:23 AM PDT
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I think we've established the fact that smart AIs such as Cortana expires in 7 years.

Cortana already betrayed. As she once told Dr. Halsey, the mission is always the first priority regardless of her or even MC's survival. Not once did she show any worry in Halo 2 that the Flood has escaped Halo or do anything to stop it. That was what the first Halo was all about. Even as Delta Halo was preparing to fire, she did nothing. Like she can easily miss surging energy readings from Halo, knowing her capability. Had it not been for Arbiter, Johnson, and Miranda, Halo would've fired. What more, she allowed herself to Gravemind.

If she was truly loyal, she would've done what she had to do that is to destroy High Charity, herself, and Halo. No. In fact, the war would've been over if she set off In Amber Clad which will destroy Truth, the Covenant fleet, herself to prevent the enemy from getting her, High Charity, the Flood, Gravemind, and Delta Halo. At the expense of Miranda, Johnson, MC(well, maybe not MC if he didn't take the long way after Truth-he might just be stranded if he can get a safe distance away), Arbiter, and everyone else.

She does seem to hide some things from the MC. Even MC had a feeling Cortana didn't tell him everything she found in the first Halo's core.

  • 07.23.2006 11:12 AM PDT

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