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I see that many people have said this in their theorys, I just expanded a little bit, so please don't blame me for posting the same thing, because it isn't.

Alot of this information is from Wikipedia, with a few conclusions on my part, I just wanted to make sure that Wikipedia got the credit it deserves. I believe that the Forerunners bred with the humans, thereby passing on their genes. I think that in the Halo universe, only a select few still carry the genes (we're talking about the characters we currently know of, of course: Master Chief, Commander Miranda Keyes, Johnson and Mobuto ( although dead, he was known as Sergeant Marvin Mobuto from Halo: The Flood). This is supported by 343 Guilty Spark when in the Halo CE in the level Two Betrayals it states: "Why do you hesitate to do what you've already done?" This interperts that these selected few are the decendants (sp?) of the Forerunners.

Oh yes, one more thing, in The Fall of Reach Dr. Halsey selected candidates for the Spartan program based on the genes they carried, probably the Forerunner genes. So history will probably repeat itself, and Master Chief will have to activate The Halos. Please don't flame, and give you constructive responses. Thank you for your attention.

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  • 07.20.2006 7:46 PM PDT

hmmmm you have a point

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If they are descendants of the Forerunners, that means that they ARE the Forerunners.

If the Forerunners were a different species, breeding simply wouldn't work. The only solution is that the Humans are the Forerunners, but they just don't know it.

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What you say is true, Gunshark. But I'm pretty sure that if two species were to breed, some of the genes would be transferred to the descendants. But I agree with you.

  • 07.20.2006 7:53 PM PDT
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If the humans are decandents, realitives or whatever it's obvious they are related to the Forrunners. Just look at what 343 Guilty spark had to say, "Ahh a reclaimer, at long last!"

  • 07.20.2006 7:55 PM PDT

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Hmm, and how might a Forerunner go about breeding with a Human? If they're galaxies apart, at one point, how would their chromosomes match up? As for Humans being Forerunners directly, I can't say yes or no.. We'll just have to find out.

  • 07.20.2006 7:57 PM PDT
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They weren't that far apart, look at where they built the Halos! If the humans can travel through slipspace, then the Forerunners MUST be able to travel as far, or farther than the humans, because they're more advanced than the humans, from what we see in their technology.

  • 07.20.2006 8:00 PM PDT
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very good points and as there are geometric sybols on halos outer side so i can see there space ships as being O circles triangles penta gones and so on lol but good point


I belive i found a forunner or lookout just go to the green room and stand back and look at the first left chamber you might be able to see the crosed arms legs and the head


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  • 07.20.2006 8:15 PM PDT

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Posted by: Taliban02
They weren't that far apart, look at where they built the Halos! If the humans can travel through slipspace, then the Forerunners MUST be able to travel as far, or farther than the humans, because they're more advanced than the humans, from what we see in their technology.


You just contradicted your first sentence with the rest of your post..

Like I said, the chromosomes wouldn't match up if they're across any ammount of distance, since they're not the same species.

But like I said, there's always the possibility that Humans and Forerunners are one in the same.

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  • 07.20.2006 8:16 PM PDT
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Finally, a Forerunnner=Human post that makes sense. Honestly, I still don't believe that Forerunners are Humans, but you have quite a good theory.

Unlike those who just point out ridiculous reasons that "Humans MUST be Forerunners."

  • 07.20.2006 8:44 PM PDT
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Posted by: The Gunshark 360
If they are descendants of the Forerunners, that means that they ARE the Forerunners.

If the Forerunners were a different species, breeding simply wouldn't work. The only solution is that the Humans are the Forerunners, but they just don't know it.


That's not true. If interspecies breeding was impossible, then there would be no such thing as mules (Horse-Donkey crossbreeds). So far interspecies breeding has been impossible because species with different amounts of chromosomes (I believe humans have 23 or 24 chromosome pairs) are genetically incompatible. Now, being that none of us has seen a forerunner, much less a forerunner chromosome chart, who's to say that they don't have the same amount of chromosomes? I'm not saying that this theory is correct, anyone who has ever seen me on these forums knows that I absolutely despise any Human = Forerunner threads and I'm certainly not a fan of any human-forerunner connections, including this one. I'm just saying that the genetic incompatability thing isn't nescessarily true.

  • 07.20.2006 9:10 PM PDT
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Posted by: DaxterDude
humans were more likly the Forerunners slaves if you've noticed they can operate the Forerunner machinery

And so can the covenant. Otherwise they'd never be able to repurpose all the Forerunner tech that they have. In fact, they're much better at it than we are.

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I don't think it's likely the humans were slaves to the Forerunner. The Forerunner seem to hold humanity in high regard.

Just look at what 343 Guilty spark had to say, "Ahh a reclaimer, at long last!"

That's a good point. I'd expect 343 Guilty Spark to exclaim right from the beginning with the Chief something along the lines of: "Ah, a Reclaimer, at long last! Why, after all these years.. we were beginning to fear the worst! It's good to see you again, Master."

If he said something like that, then we know the rest for sure. It's strange, if he thinks the MC is related to the Forerunner, why didn't he refer to the MC something like 'Master'?

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Not again dude humans are forerunners...need an explanation?
1. Only the Humans can activate halo...why is that...because time has repeated itself...The covenant as the forerunners once knew probably...were arrogant and self righteous and would activate the rings for their own beliefs instead of the NEEDS of others...such as idk if the flood were to b released and spread!!!
2. 343 gulty spark Halo;CE
3.ARK on Earth??? Relation..i think so
4.look at the touch panels on the forerunner ships..on one u notice a HAND PRINT IN HUMAN FORM!!!
5.look at the designs of these ships and stuff...now look at the human and covie designs...now does the human ship look like a more primative form of the forerunner ships than the covinent ones do...YEAHHHHH GET A CLUE EVERYONE BUNGIE IS TOSSING IT IN UR FACE!!!!!111

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yeah so prove me wrong someone

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Posted by: Taliban02
"Why do you hesitate to do what you've already done?" .


That has nothing to do with the Humans being Forerunners. He is asking why John will not activate Halo when he did so just a few moments before.

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Posted by: DUDEHALO3
Not again dude humans are forerunners...need an explanation?
1. Only the Humans can activate halo...why is that...because time has repeated itself...The covenant as the forerunners once knew probably...were arrogant and self righteous and would activate the rings for their own beliefs instead of the NEEDS of others...such as idk if the flood were to b released and spread!!!
2. 343 gulty spark Halo;CE
3.ARK on Earth??? Relation..i think so
4.look at the touch panels on the forerunner ships..on one u notice a HAND PRINT IN HUMAN FORM!!!
5.look at the designs of these ships and stuff...now look at the human and covie designs...now does the human ship look like a more primative form of the forerunner ships than the covinent ones do...YEAHHHHH GET A CLUE EVERYONE BUNGIE IS TOSSING IT IN UR FACE!!!!!111

ok. First of all, how old are you? You type like a thirteen year old. it makes my head hurt. Second, none of this is proof, just a bunch of speculation that hundreds of other thirteen year olds with horrible grammar skills and longings for attention posted before you. as such, I will attack these one by one.
1. Noone ever said that only humans could activate halo. In fact, only two beings have ever been confirmed as being called reclaimers: chief and miranda. the rest of your reason doesn't even make sense.
2. I have personally shot down every 343 quote ever used in the defense of Human-forerunner correlation. The fact is, 343's quotes are so ambiguous and misinterpretable that they can't be used as definitive proof for anything.
3. Noone said when the ark was put there. It could've been there millions of years before humans ever evolved. The galaxy has been around for billions of years, while humans have only been around for 100,000. That, and what if another earth species were the forerunner. Howler monkeys? You might say, 'hey, they aren't sentient" although you'd say it with more spelling errors. but who's to say they weren't before the halo activation and they all died?
4. No, it has a handprint. it could just as easily be a forerunner handprint. How many creatures, just on earth, have the basic five-finger handprint?
5. First of all, you've only seen one Forerunner ship. You can't make a difinitive judgement based on one ship. Plus, we know that the covenant use every scrap of Forerunner tech they come across. Chances are, Covenant ships resemble average forerunner ships more than human ones.
Case in point, you aren't bungie. So don't talk like you're bungie.

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  • 07.20.2006 11:40 PM PDT
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Couple things.

One, if I'm correct, and I think I am, when the Spartan II process began, they had never heard of the Forerunner. So she might have selected candidates based on genes, but the Forerunner part of the gene processing, I doubt.

Second, descendant is spelled with an "s" in front of the "c".

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  • 07.20.2006 11:44 PM PDT
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Posted by: Zikes The Pwner
Couple things.

One, if I'm correct, and I think I am, when the Spartan II process began, they had never heard of the Forerunner. So she might have selected candidates based on genes, but the Forerunner part of the gene processing, I doubt.

Second, descendant is spelled with an "s" in front of the "c".

They did use certain genetic markers. What if one of those markers, say for increased intelligence, or strength, was the forerunner gene? Not impossible.

  • 07.20.2006 11:50 PM PDT
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No, I just meant that they weren't searching directly for the Forerunner gene, because they didn't even know they existed yet. But I agree that their search for the intellegence/strength/stamina "could" have indirectly led them to the Forerunner gene.

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ok for one im not thirteen years old but im also not someone who sits around correcting peoples grammar all day cuz he cant get any or doesnt have anything else to do with his time...Also yeah only humans can because remember when u faced tarturaus or h/e u spell his name forces the human to do it and never was called a reclaimer if u remember that much oh yeah and in library 343 showed the MC in the dead body and said " the last reclaimer didnt have that much luck or something like that" that shot down ur 1st and 2nd comment..

lets get the third one done with...if humans did evolve...wat from? maybe the genes from the FORERUNNERS WHO LANDED THERE!?!?!

now for ur fourth dumb comment...the handprint is the form of a humans handprint...AKA SUPERIOR HUMAN BEINGS FROM AN ANCIENT AGE!!!

Fifthly...theres also buildings the forerunners made...but seeing as how u cant remember all the other things u forgot about its only obvious that u talk about stuff that u dont know about

Thanks bud u tried and failed and i bet ull b on tomarrow corretcin ym rgamerm, but i wont cuz i got a life

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  • 07.20.2006 11:55 PM PDT
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I don't care about your damn grammar you stupid ass. I was talking about the first book. You know, when the Spartan II project began! Before 117 had MJOLNIR or had even heard of a Halo. Read my whole post you illiterate stupid ass mofo.

  • 07.20.2006 11:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: DUDEHALO3
ok for one im not thirteen years old but im also not someone who sits around correcting peoples grammar all day cuz he cant get any or doesnt have anything else to do with his time...Also yeah only humans can because remember when u tarturaus or h/e u spell his name forces the human to do it and never was called a reclaimer if u remember that much oh yeah and in library 343 showed the MC in the dead body and said " the last reclaimer didnt have that much luck or something like that" that shot down ur 1st and 2nd comment..


1) You have terrible grammar. I know it's a shock, but you'll get over it. I'm sorry you had to find out this way.

2) Telling someone "They can't get any" is not a valid way of insulting them. Might I refer to more clever tactics, such as subtle sarcasm or duck feathering.

3) The body Guilty Spark was reffering to in "The Flood" is that of a Marine, who managed to get into the Library. I beleive he even commented on his lack of armor.

4) If you think not using proper grammar means you have a life, you are dead wrong my friend. You might even say, "You failed."

  • 07.20.2006 11:59 PM PDT

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