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Subject: KIlling spiders to save butterflies?
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ah the spider butterfly paradox

Well i would leave the butterfly to its fate.Because with most of nature survival of the fittest takes hold and those who die usualy feed the ones who live allowing them to survive to the next day.

[Edited on 10/7/2004 9:37:44 AM]

  • 10.07.2004 9:34 AM PDT
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Wow... have we been mobbed by Hippies? :P

Everyone is very thoughtful of nature here... whilst using a computer that gets power generally from burning fossil fuels that pollutes the atmosphere, etc etc.

I'm just messin with ya...

Tristan ;-)

  • 10.07.2004 3:19 PM PDT

With B.B. gone, the passion of Bungie.net has lessened.

I'd turn my back for a few minutes, then I'd turn back around and see what happened. Observation can change the course of things [Heisenburg's Uncertainty Priciple] (I'm a no-fate type of person), so I'd like to see the outcome witout observing the process... Think of Schrodinger's Cat experiment if you don't understand where I'm coming from:

Cat is put into a box... box is sealed. You come back say, a year later (time doesn't really matter), and before you open the box, ask yourself this: Is the cat alive or dead? How does one know without opening the box? There's a 50/50 chance that it could be either... so without viewing, the answer is that the Cat is both alive and dead. I bet Rip Saw can explain this better if my words are confusing.

To be biased, I favor the spider. Spiders are bad-ass... and butterflies anger me (they, well, their spawn, destroyed last year's Cucumber crop in my family's garden....).

  • 10.07.2004 8:55 PM PDT

We’ve watched while the stars burned
Out, and creation played in reverse.
The Universe freezing in half-light.
Once I thought to escape.
To end a master, step out of the
Path of collapse. Escape would make us God.
Yet I cannot help but remember one enigma,
A hybrid, elusive destroyer.
This is the one mystery I have not solved.
The only element unaccounted for.

Posted by: Shai Hulud
I'd turn my back for a few minutes, then I'd turn back around and see what happened. Observation can change the course of things [Heisenburg's Uncertainty Priciple] (I'm a no-fate type of person), so I'd like to see the outcome witout observing the process... Think of Schrodinger's Cat experiment if you don't understand where I'm coming from:

Cat is put into a box... box is sealed. You come back say, a year later (time doesn't really matter), and before you open the box, ask yourself this: Is the cat alive or dead? How does one know without opening the box? There's a 50/50 chance that it could be either... so without viewing, the answer is that the Cat is both alive and dead. I bet Rip Saw can explain this better if my words are confusing.

To be biased, I favor the spider. Spiders are bad-ass... and butterflies anger me (they, well, their spawn, destroyed last year's Cucumber crop in my family's garden....).

Try planting about 30 Zuccini plants. They are similar to cucumbers, taste better with dip, and once they have started to grow nothing can stop them. Trust me; it happened to my family.

Ah, human morals. Our attempts to add order and meaning to our existence. And what do they accomplish? We're we to only think of our own own good we would ignore the spider and the butterfly. Were we to save one, it would die eventually anyway, so we would have accomplished nothing. So the real question is: what is the point? We feel bad about the dead, choosing instead to attempt to focuse on life, which is ultimately futile. We live our whole lives accomplishing nothing of any importance besides in our own minds. What we kill and destroy would have been gone eventually. We feel bad because it was our fault rather than an accident.
I would choose to do nothing. I would, like most other humans, foolishly feel poorly for the butterfly, although it in truth does not matter. I suppose that the only reason to care about it at all is that if I cared not about death, i wouldn't care about my own existance. I may as well do something, as there is no purpose either way beyond what I feel like.

  • 10.07.2004 10:06 PM PDT
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It could ever so slightly upset the natural balance of things.

  • 10.08.2004 1:32 AM PDT
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the butterfly deserves to die if it runs into a web... <ahhh, help me. i ran into a spiders web!>

  • 10.08.2004 2:24 AM PDT
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Posted by: Righteous Reaper
Ah, the spider paradox. Very confusing. The best I can come up with is to not answer. Why? because there are no right or wrong guesses.

In the end, one must die, unless another butterfly comes along to be eaten. It is a sad fact of nature, but one which we see on a daily basis.

Take care of the butterfly, and give the Spider a very very small piece of fruit.
Oh, and Trigun rocks.HUMANOID TYPHOON!!

[Edited on 10/8/2004 5:29:58 AM]

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