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Subject: THE NEEDLER!!!!!!
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Since Halo began the needler has been a pretty useless weapon i mean u can shoot as many as u want with them but no1 but u will die. even in H2 duel needlers are still useless. Thats y i made this post because in H3 if bungie again decides to keep the needler i think it should have some cool features. all i thought of were 2.
1. If the needler had a self-destruct on it. like when u die holding a needler it should automatically self-destruct shoot needlers onto the closest enemy. they all might not hit the enemy like if the enemy runs away quick enough or hides behind something.

2. When u melee with a needler u should be able to unload all ur needlers onto an enemy. it has to have full ammo though so u cannot just pick it up and punch.

i thought of those because ppl always bag on the needler and how bad it is maybe H3 can incorporate 1 or both these into the next awaited Halo. please post if u agree with this or have any other ideas.

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  • 07.25.2006 6:46 AM PDT
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Your mother is so fat, she tried to jump through Halo and got stuck.

Go check out ma file share. plz? lol

Even though your ideas might be cool, it doesn't mean Bungie will incoroporate them into the game. Like Frankie said, most of it is set in stone.

  • 07.25.2006 6:51 AM PDT

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Yes that would be cool, but in H2 dual needlers are fun to use when no one has shields, the needles blow up and the guy goes flying. Pretty funny stuff.

  • 07.25.2006 6:53 AM PDT
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I pity you. You under-estimate the power of the pink death. Near silent, deadly, the assasins ultimate ranged weapon (in Halo anyway...).

Seriously though, although they could do with improving, in Halo 2, they are GREAT anti-power weapon weapons!

Someone sitting on the ledge in beaver creek? Fill them with needles!

Not only do they die, but it really pisses them off, the thought of being killed by the needler.

But anyway, I use it to great effect on most maps. Very usefull on lockout when the enemy has the sniper tower secured. Even if you don't get them, the slow speed of the projectiles makes it a great suppressive fire weapon!

  • 07.25.2006 6:54 AM PDT
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cool ideas but like many people including myself have said the game is pretty much finished with ideas....

  • 07.25.2006 7:19 AM PDT
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In Halo 1 they were a lot more powerfull and i loved to use them on legendary in Halo 2 they toned down the tracking and its power so my point is go with the halo 1 needler

  • 07.25.2006 7:20 AM PDT
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I happen to be a fan of both Halo and Halo 2 Needlers. I think it's a reletively good weapon the way it is, I see no need for change.

  • 07.25.2006 7:35 AM PDT
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dude

whenever i play juggernaut all i use is dual needlers. I cant believe that you think that they suck because they are my favourite weapons

  • 07.25.2006 8:23 AM PDT
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battle rifle and plasma pistol or any human weapon and a plasma pistol to kill the juggernaut

  • 07.25.2006 8:25 AM PDT
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I normally don't even read suggestion posts, because they always come after the game is pretty much set in stone and therefor have no baring over their design whatsoever...

But I must admit, I always thought the needles loaded into the needler should have some form of impact on the melee performance of the weapon.

Be it increased damage when it's fully loaded (more damage the more needles it has). I would have loved to seen that combined with the fact when you hit someone theres a chance some of the needles would come free and stick in your opponent like a porcupine.

But that just gets overly complicated too, it's a bit of an awkard gun to hit someone with :P.

  • 07.25.2006 8:28 AM PDT
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How about this... When you shoot the needler at a wall/rock/vehicle/other solid object, the needles stick just like they would on a player. If you stuck enough it would explode just like in halo CE and Halo 2..... i think it would give the needler a bit more of the tactical advantage it needs to become a legitimate weapon option.

  • 07.25.2006 4:28 PM PDT

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People just don't know how to use the needler , when you fire at an opponent you have to keep on clicking the trigers so the needles come out faster and do more damage same is with the plasma turret other wise the projectiles are slow and useless.

  • 07.25.2006 4:37 PM PDT
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i dont get what you mean by the needler kills you....its a really great weapon.
i dont think it has any flaws.
its powerful, and it can store a lot of ammo.
your not giving enough reasons why the needler needs such improvement.

but good ideas. they would be cool.

  • 07.25.2006 4:43 PM PDT
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Hm...

Halo CE's mode of fire, plus smarter and faster homing needles. Optional-pressure sensitivity. Variating rate of fire depending on how much pressure you apply to the shoulder trigger on the controller. More pressure applied, the faster the rate of fire until it becomes almost a blur hailstorm of needles(ammo is used up instantly at the cost). Or if we want, we could have the Needler effective to an extent against light vehicles depending on whether you can get enough needles in a moving vehicle to make the vehicle explode.

  • 07.25.2006 4:43 PM PDT
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The Needler is FAR from useless in either game. Try playing on Legendary for once and you just might learn how valuable it really is.

  • 07.25.2006 4:47 PM PDT
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Halo CE had the sweet needler, if the opponent was in the open, the needler would destory him. As it was super homing.

  • 07.25.2006 4:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: fortune faded13
i dont get what you mean by the needler kills you....its a really great weapon.
i dont think it has any flaws.
its powerful, and it can store a lot of ammo.
your not giving enough reasons why the needler needs such improvement.

but good ideas. they would be cool.


wen i say the needler only kills u i mean if u use it the other player will most likely kill u

  • 07.25.2006 9:22 PM PDT
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I pity you. You under-estimate the power of the pink death. Near silent, deadly, the assasins ultimate ranged weapon (in Halo anyway...).

Seriously though, although they could do with improving, in Halo 2, they are GREAT anti-power weapon weapons!

Someone sitting on the ledge in beaver creek? Fill them with needles!

Not only do they die, but it really pisses them off, the thought of being killed by the needler.

But anyway, I use it to great effect on most maps. Very usefull on lockout when the enemy has the sniper tower secured. Even if you don't get them, the slow speed of the projectiles makes it a great suppressive fire weapon!
I am with you, Brother! Never underestimate dual pink death.

  • 07.25.2006 9:25 PM PDT
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Posted by: fortune faded13
i dont get what you mean by the needler kills you....its a really great weapon.
i dont think it has any flaws.
its powerful, and it can store a lot of ammo.
your not giving enough reasons why the needler needs such improvement.

but good ideas. they would be cool.


wen i say the needler only kills u i mean if u use it the other player will most likely kill u
He means that the needles don't have immediate effect. Someone could waste you with a Plasma Pistol and Battle Rifle and get away.

  • 07.25.2006 9:26 PM PDT
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the needler is effective in certain situations. great for pesky campers

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  • 07.25.2006 9:27 PM PDT
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halo ce needlers were more powerful than that of halo 2 needlers... so hmm

  • 07.25.2006 10:43 PM PDT
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The Needler is highly effective if you know how and when to use it. I don't really see a problem with them.

  • 07.25.2006 10:44 PM PDT
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The needler is good in corridors and long hallways and can desimate an overshield like it is nothing. For example in Ivory Tower is a great level to use needlers if your good espicially when somebody gets an overshield. Also they work pretty well in killing more than one person without reloading because if two people are next to eachother the person who gets needled up and explodes hurting the other player near them and making them very vurnable.

  • 07.25.2006 10:49 PM PDT
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The Needler is a good weapon, but you must know how and when to use it. The new melee you proposed is just like the sword. It would greatly overbalance it. The Needler just needs to fire faster. I want it to be like the one in the E3 Zanzibar demo.

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