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Subject: TO ENSURE 99% LESS CHEATER AND 99% MORE FUN
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The problems with the cheaters lies in the area of the gamers themsleves, not the game.
Although it would be wise for bungie to implement anti-cheat measures, the real problem
lies in that to many people care so much about there little number rank, that they want to cheat to have bragging rights.

Most porblems of cheating could be solved by

1 Bungie puts a trojan horse ( virus ) in halo 3 that shuts down your disk when mods are detected
2 No one is host except Bungie's central servers.
3 LIke you said alow crazy cool gametypes to be available ONLY in custom games.

  • 07.25.2006 9:53 AM PDT
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Posted by: Armedsavage01
Isn't the running speed for players allready an option and that affects the jumping hight so why do we need god like powers I personaly see no reason for them unless its fo some wierd jugganaunt game type.


If you don't see any use for them, don't use them. I would use them.

EDIT: and no, we really don't have similar options.

[Edited on 7/25/2006]

  • 07.25.2006 9:54 AM PDT
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the problem with no1 host is if 1 guy lags we all do, i think,

bungie cant stop flashing bios on your disk drie cause it makes it so your telling your disk drive what is what, thats why you can go online with burnt games so they cant detect it which suck, not to many people are willing to mod 360 cause you have to open it

  • 07.25.2006 9:57 AM PDT
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I think this is a good idea. Maybe it wouldn't stop modder, but it sure would be fun in customs. This kind of thing has been possible in PC FPS games forever. I don't see any harm here.

Removing ranks would probably have more impact in modding I think. Although, I think it will take quite a while for people to mod the 360. This is not the typical PC x86 architecture. It's custom everything. It may never be modded.

I don't read up on this sort of thing though. Has anyone been able to mod a 360? I'm doubting it.

  • 07.25.2006 9:58 AM PDT
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Posted by: WsGPro
the problem with no1 host is if 1 guy lags we all do, i think,

bungie cant stop flashing bios on your disk drie cause it makes it so your telling your disk drive what is what, thats why you can go online with burnt games so they cant detect it which suck, not to many people are willing to mod 360 cause you have to open it


You mean with servers? Well, if you play any PC game online you'd know that dedicated servers really up the amount of players with less lag. I play games with over 48 players all of the time. Sometimes even 64. Dedicated servers would really help cut down on the cheaters though it probably wouldn't completley eradicate them.

  • 07.25.2006 10:01 AM PDT
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360 has already been modded but you cant edit stuff on your harddrive or you get banned, you can edit stuff on disk and play burnt games online, but im not going to talk about this cause i dont want to get this shutdown

  • 07.25.2006 10:01 AM PDT

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Posted by: Armedsavage01
Isn't the running speed for players allready an option and that affects the jumping hight so why do we need god like powers I personaly see no reason for them unless its fo some wierd jugganaunt game type.


If you don't see any use for them, don't use them. I would use them.

EDIT: and no, we really don't have similar options.
Well we have the players movement speed which gos from slow like the flag carrier to normal movement to finally fast movement for like juggernaut move ment it would kind of be stupid adding a option called modder like speed thats a little strange and each different speed has different jump hights it would be very unreasonable to have a super jumping option for a jugernaut and I know I wouldn't have to set them in my games but if they were added it could posibly finds its way into match making by mistake or dilibertly by a next gen consol hacker.

  • 07.25.2006 10:01 AM PDT
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i agree
dedicated severs are the best option if bungie has them

  • 07.25.2006 10:02 AM PDT
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not for jujjernaut, for everyone in that game, you could make some fun customs with it

  • 07.25.2006 10:03 AM PDT
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Posted by: WsGPro
360 has already been modded but you cant edit stuff on your harddrive or you get banned, you can edit stuff on disk and play burnt games online, but im not going to talk about this cause i dont want to get this shutdown


To bad you can't play the burnt games without first modding the 360 :D It's a deadly cycle. lol

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yeah... dedicated servers would rock. They don't come free though. Especially with the amount of people that will be online playing halo 3.

Still... I'll keep my fingers crossed.

  • 07.25.2006 10:05 AM PDT

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I dont consider getting raped by fifteen other super jumping fast running juggernaut like players fun but yes in some cases could be also Microsoft strongly suggested not to use dedicated servers to the companies it owns includeing Bungie so I doubt they will use them and plus that would defeat the purpose of custom games the game would turn into Battle Field 2 which kind of sucks in my opinion dedicated servers are bad for First person shooter games they slow down the game.

  • 07.25.2006 10:09 AM PDT
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Posted by: UberKalden
yeah... dedicated servers would rock. They don't come free though. Especially with the amount of people that will be online playing halo 3.

Still... I'll keep my fingers crossed.


That is very true though. Most dedicated servers in PC games are run by individuals and groups of people. Bungie would have to put out over 10000 dedicated servers and have ones overseas and in Japan and the rest of Asia to ensure minimal lag to all players. It would just be to much to handle and give players in certain areas closer to the servers an advantage. So dedicated servers might be impractiacal in this situation.

  • 07.25.2006 10:09 AM PDT
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Posted by: Armedsavage01
I dont consider getting raped by fifteen other super jumping fast running juggernaut like players fun but yes in some cases could be also Microsoft strongly suggested not to use dedicated servers to the companies it owns includeing Bungie so I doubt they will use them and plus that would defeat the purpose of custom games the game would turn into Battle Field 2 which kind of sucks in my opinion dedicated servers are bad for First person shooter games they slow down the game.


I take it you never played CS or CS: Source?


EDIT: oops srry 4 double post.

[Edited on 7/25/2006]

  • 07.25.2006 10:10 AM PDT

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Whats CS stand for does it stand for Counter strike because I have played that game and it reminds me of Battle field 2 which is bad ,I think we should stay with having a host control the party , it's what makes Halo unique and just simply put ,it makes it Halo like.

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  • 07.25.2006 10:14 AM PDT
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Posted by: Armedsavage01
Wats CS stand for does it stand for Counter strike because I have played that game and it reminds me of Battle field 2 which is bad ,I think we should stay with having a host control the party it's what makes Halo unique and just simply put it makes it Halo like.


Counter-strike is like Battefield 2? That is like saying Chocolate ice cream is liek vanilla. They're both ice cream, but they're different flavors.....wait, that comparison didn't really fit right there. :(

  • 07.25.2006 10:16 AM PDT

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I would like Halo to stay like Halo not Counter Stike not Battle Field and not GRAW but Halo just Halo ,servers would in my mind ruin match makeing and custom games and plus Microsoft told the companies not to use servers in their games but some listened and some didn't and thats why Halo is so sucsesful compared to the other games.

[Edited on 7/25/2006]

  • 07.25.2006 10:21 AM PDT
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atually all the games for 360 were supposted to be on servers

  • 07.25.2006 10:22 AM PDT

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Good thing there not other wise all the games would be to much alike and this is why Halo is so unique .

  • 07.25.2006 10:24 AM PDT
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you guys are being harsh I think it's a good idea... setting it so you can jump really high or run super fast would speed up games and you'd learn how to battle everyone in super speed, be more accurate and train yourself to beat a modder if their modding. its an awesome idea and i just proved it... (sorry if this has already been said but I couldnt acctually be bothered to read all 3 pages... now if I only had a superspeed dial lol)

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you guys are being harsh I think it's a good idea... setting it so you can jump really high or run super fast would speed up games and you'd learn how to battle everyone in super speed, be more accurate and train yourself to beat a modder if their modding. its an awesome idea and i just proved it... (sorry if this has already been said but I couldnt acctually be bothered to read all 3 pages... now if I only had a superspeed dial lol)
That isn't proof its speculation of the game it isn't out so you would never know how it could effect the game in a good way or a bad way.

  • 07.25.2006 10:28 AM PDT
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Posted by: Armedsavage01
I would like Halo to stay like Halo not Counter Stike not Battle Field and not GRAW but Halo just Halo ,servers would in my mind ruin match makeing and custom games and plus Microsoft told the companies not to use servers in their games but some listened and some didn't and thats why Halo is so sucsesful compared to the other games.


The bads of dedicated servers heavily outweigh the goods. They are to expensive, they give an unfair advantage, there wouldn't be enough of them, and if they are all in one spot, a power outage would knockout the entire game. I see what you're saying now.

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Posted by: Armedsavage01
I would like Halo to stay like Halo not Counter Stike not Battle Field and not GRAW but Halo just Halo ,servers would in my mind ruin match makeing and custom games and plus Microsoft told the companies not to use servers in their games but some listened and some didn't and thats why Halo is so sucsesful compared to the other games.


The bads of dedicated servers heavily outweigh the goods. They are to expensive, they give an unfair advantage, there wouldn't be enough of them, and if they are all in one spot, a power outage would knockout the entire game. I see what you're saying now.
Thats what I mean I've played plenty of games with dedicated servers and I always seem to be dissapointed with them I rather keep a host in charge than a mindless server and plus custom games are my favorite thing about the Halo series. I like the option to make my own games and invite my buds to the game from my friends list and then I have the power to control the party how I wished too.

  • 07.25.2006 10:34 AM PDT
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were talking about connection host not party host buddy

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Oh connection host well thats different , I doubt they will turn it into a server but you never know I dont want to screw up the game so I would have to say that they should just leave it as it is.

  • 07.25.2006 10:40 AM PDT

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