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In light of recent things I have experienced, and a HUGE thread made by Jim, I decided to write this rant. If you're going to post, please read all of it. Now that I think of it, even if you aren't going to post, please read all of it. Thank you.

We are all part of a community. The Bungie Community. We are members of what is called Bungie.net. It is a place that Bungie created for their fans to gather and discuss everything from Halo to poop(yes, even moderator have mentioned this topic *looks at Recon*). They gave us a way to come together. To discuss, to appreciate, to analyze, to debate, to criticize, and to have fun.

But, things don't always go as planned. Anyone who joined B.net prior to the announcement of Halo 3 can tell you(Zanzibar). Flamers. Spammers. Elitists. Jerks. They are everywhere, and you know it. Do you fall into one of these categories? I sincerely hope that you do not. But if you do, there's no time like the present, to change.

Play nice together. We are all fans of Bungie. We are all here because of them. We are all equals. Yet we do not treat eachother as such. What can you do to fix this? Well, that's the main purpose for this rant. Read on.

Some random user of b.net makes a thread in the Septagon. He's posting his Halo 2 Montage. What do you do? Here are a few choices. I'll give you the correct one after they're all listed.

A). You watch the montage, and post on it, saying "Good job" or maybe "Meh."

B). You watch the montage, and post on it, giving constructive criticism. You do everything in your power to encourage the user to make more.

C). You watch the montage, comment on it, and mention that the user posted in the incorrect forum. You direct him to New Mombasa.

D). You simply post and tell the user that he is in the incorrect forum.

E). You PM the user and tell him that his montage was good. You also tell him that he posted in the wrong forum. You tell him that it's okay, and all he needs to do is delete the content of that thread, and repost in New Mombasa.

F). You PM a moderator, to do as he sees fit(move, lock, blacklist, etc).

G). Ignore the thread entirely.

Which choice is correct? E. You probably guessed it. It's pretty obvious. It informs the user that he made a mistake. It helps him understand what to do now, and in the future. It saves him from public humiliation, because it is via PM, not post. It enables him to quickly notice it, as he will immediately notice a PM, but not necessarily a post. This is clearly the best solution. But is it the solution you would choose? If not, try to make it so in the future.

When someone makes a mistake, don't flame them. Do not call them an idiot or a retard. Give constructive criticism in any way you can. People make mistakes. Forgive, help, and move on. And please. When you try and leave constructive criticism, double, or even triple check to make sure that all of the information you are about to give is 100% accurate. Otherwise, it hurts, not helps.

Do not be afraid to ask questions. Sometimes, you may feel like a n00b, asking a question. Don't be afraid. Nobody's going to think less of you. There's a million reasons why you could not know the information. No one is going to assume that it's simply because you're a moron(if by some chance they do, just ignore them).

Go above and beyond the call of duty. Do all you can to help someone, and then some. Once upon a time, someone posted in the Septagon, asking for a link to the Forum Rules. I saw it almost immediately, and had a link up very quickly. Then, about 2 posts later, a thoughtful user also gave a link to the Code of Conduct and the Terms of Use. I thought that was awesome. I didn't even think of doing that! I felt stupid, but it reminded me to try and go the extra mile from then on.

When joking about something. Please. Make sure that there is no doubt in anyone's mind, that it is a joke. People take things very seriously sometimes.

Remember. This is not simply your forum. It is not simply Bungie's. It belongs to all of us. So please, get along with eachother. Help out. Be fair. Play nice. Share.

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[Edited on 8/1/2006]

  • 08.01.2006 5:28 PM PDT
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Seriously, don't take me seriously.

Underground Pleasure - aren't you a bit curious?

I better not write my rant.........but uh..good rant though(if that's what you want to call it)...even though it wasn't in an angry manner. :-P

  • 08.01.2006 5:35 PM PDT
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Thanks.

BTW, fixed the ghey italics.

  • 08.01.2006 5:37 PM PDT

He watches every Hodgetwin video they put up...on ALL their channels. He calls them the Hodge Triplets, and considers himself the 3rd triplet. He's started talking and acting like them now. Every other line out of his mouth "Thaaas some BULLLLLL**** maaayne" or "Gotta make dem gainzzzz". He calls his biceps "gains". When he eats post-workout, he talks to his biceps, "Don't worry gains, I'm feeding you. Daddys gonna feed you, gainz *kisses biceps*".

A terrific post. I enjoyed the example dearly. I've seen so many topics where people respond 10 different times to say, "WRONG FORUM!" or something to that effect. I hadn't really thought of the PM thing (I generally only come across the sort of wrong-forum stuff only after about 5 other people have already been there).

I believe that this heavily extends to what happens in the Halo 3 forum. I mean, I think I've utterly trashed and made fun of people's theories a couple times (not in the H3 forum, though), which was very wrong of me. We've gotta stop doing that.

Also, I know the forums should not became an absolutely non-serious place, but I see SO many guys get flamed over in that forum because they make a joke. I mean, seriously... when you're hanging out with your friends, do you tear a chunk out of them for cracking a few jokes?

Remember, folks, the moral of the story is this: always do for those folks what you you would want done for you.

  • 08.01.2006 5:43 PM PDT
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Only the paranoid will survive!

Great rant. It was missing a few things, but overall I enjoyed it. Unfortunately, I'm afraid this is not the rant forum. However, I hope not to discourag...

  • 08.01.2006 9:23 PM PDT

I <3 you thread creator.

  • 08.01.2006 9:32 PM PDT
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I am glad that many of us agree. We can make this a better place.

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Posted by: natedogr
I am glad that many of us agree. We can make this a better place.


yup we sure can, by the way great post Kilroy :)

  • 08.01.2006 9:36 PM PDT
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Yeah I agree with you there. We need less arrogant jerks at these forums.

  • 08.01.2006 9:39 PM PDT
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Only the paranoid will survive!

Sure, of course we all agree here. But in practice will we? I think not.

  • 08.01.2006 9:49 PM PDT

He watches every Hodgetwin video they put up...on ALL their channels. He calls them the Hodge Triplets, and considers himself the 3rd triplet. He's started talking and acting like them now. Every other line out of his mouth "Thaaas some BULLLLLL**** maaayne" or "Gotta make dem gainzzzz". He calls his biceps "gains". When he eats post-workout, he talks to his biceps, "Don't worry gains, I'm feeding you. Daddys gonna feed you, gainz *kisses biceps*".

Posted by: Pimp at Sea
Sure, of course we all agree here. But in practice will we? I think not.


That is where the importance of implementation comes in. Everyone, you must practice this regularly.

  • 08.01.2006 9:58 PM PDT
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When is Bungie going to create anoter Halo 2 tournement.

  • 08.01.2006 9:59 PM PDT

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A good post, Kilroy. I agree wholeheartedly. Bungie.net is a great place provided by Bungie for the fans. The jerks accomplish nothing by making it worse for everyone else.

  • 08.01.2006 10:01 PM PDT
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Since I don't know what else to say, uhhh, good post.

  • 08.01.2006 10:21 PM PDT

To Make Posts is Glorious

Some threads will get posts before others and it is the duty of the Leadership to ensure that posts are made that best suit the public welfare.

"heh"

The thing that bugs me the most is when people just post "zomg bant" or "lawl in befroe teh lock". What purpose will posting those serve? Seriously.

  • 08.01.2006 10:27 PM PDT
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Posted by: the squee masta
The thing that bugs me the most is when people just post "zomg bant" or "lawl in befroe teh lock". What purpose will posting those serve? Seriously.


I remember once dmb gave a good chewing out to a bunch of people who did that in a thread. He threatened bans for repeat offenders. So, the mods don't like it either. It's just spam.

  • 08.01.2006 10:33 PM PDT
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I especially agree with you on answering questions and asking questions. If a person does have a question, then don't be discouraged to ask them. Yes, there might be some jerk on this forum that will say something like "you're an idiot", but in turn they themselves are the idiot. People like that don't deserve to post on Bungie.net.



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  • 08.01.2006 10:39 PM PDT
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Nice one Kilroy, you're a real asset to this forum, it's good to see some helpful and smart members...

Nice rant, have a cookie and I bid you good day.

  • 08.01.2006 10:52 PM PDT
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Mmmmm......cookie......*drools*

  • 08.01.2006 10:55 PM PDT