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This should be brought to the attention of everyone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mjolnir_Battle_Tactics

After being told not to pimp themselves on Bungie.net's wikipedia entry. MBT have now proceeded to make their own 'pedia entry, which, even in its original, extremely biased form, was devoid of content and absolutely pointless. Surely this is taking your childish, petty -blam!- with whoever it is you're in a "group war" with these days a bit too far? Frankly, if this is being done as a group effort, it's using B.Net to add useless -blam!- to the wikipedia and the group should be disbanded.

  • 08.05.2006 7:31 PM PDT

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I'll report them to a Wikipedia admin for the page, it should be edited or deleted really quick.

  • 08.05.2006 7:34 PM PDT
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Ha. A minute ago that was a rant about how bad the group was. I guess Guardian Hunter or somebody changed it.

  • 08.05.2006 7:34 PM PDT

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Are you kidding...Wikipedia is not bungie, I made that page as a place holder for when I have the time to insert all he information.

But apparently its been edited....a couple of times if you look at the page history you'd know that.

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  • 08.05.2006 7:35 PM PDT
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Posted by: Snap Dragon
Ha. A minute ago that was a rant about how bad the group was. I guess Guardian Hunter or somebody changed it.


myself and another anonymous member have cleared it up to a single, though still uneccessary, paragraph.

Posted by: Guardian Hunter
Are you kidding...Wikipedia is not bungie, I made that page as a place holder for when I have the time to insert all he information.


Why? The wikipedia is an encyclopedia. It is not a playground for people to place group ads. The information you would post holds absolutely no use to anyone else on the planet, and so has no place on the 'pedia. Otherwise, every group would have a page.

[Edited on 8/5/2006]

  • 08.05.2006 7:35 PM PDT
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I've been around these parts for almost eight years now...wow! Maybe I should be concerned about that...

*sigh*

I edited the page to make it slightly less biased until it can be deleted, but even I think it's one of the stupidest things ever. The page probably shouldn't even exsist, but I have no idea how to delete it, so I'll let someone else figure this out...still, it's annoying. I deleted a link to MBT from the Bungie.net page's external links section after browsing through it today. I believe that MBT is getting a bit over zealous with its advertising and needs to chill the -blam!- out about this "2000 members" thing.

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  • 08.05.2006 7:35 PM PDT

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The page was apparently edit by someone else you'd know this if you check the page history.

  • 08.05.2006 7:37 PM PDT

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Why? The wikipedia is an encyclopedia. It is not a playground for people to place group ads. The information you would post holds absolutely no use to anyone else on the planet, and so has no place on the 'pedia. Otherwise, every group would have a page.

Why does it matter to you? It doesn't effect you in ANY way your just making trouble I think you should be banned for posting this garbage.

  • 08.05.2006 7:38 PM PDT
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I've been around these parts for almost eight years now...wow! Maybe I should be concerned about that...

Posted by: Guardian Hunter
The page was apparently edit by someone else you'd know this if you check the page history.
The page shouldn't even exsist in the first place.

Posted by: Guardian Hunter
Why? The wikipedia is an encyclopedia. It is not a playground for people to place group ads. The information you would post holds absolutely no use to anyone else on the planet, and so has no place on the 'pedia. Otherwise, every group would have a page.

Why does it matter to you? It doesn't effect you in ANY way your just making trouble I think you should be banned for posting this garbage.
It is not so much that it is effecting us, but rather that MBT actually posted its own ad article on wikipedia that is disquieting. And against wiki rules.

Wikipedia is not an advertising service. Promotional articles about yourself, your friends, your company or products; or articles created as part of a marketing or promotional campaign, may be deleted in accordance with our deletion policies. For more information, see Wikipedia:Spam.

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  • 08.05.2006 7:38 PM PDT
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Mjolnir Battle Tactics is a group that thinks more members makes it a better group :\.

  • 08.05.2006 7:42 PM PDT
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Posted by: Guardian Hunter
Why? The wikipedia is an encyclopedia. It is not a playground for people to place group ads. The information you would post holds absolutely no use to anyone else on the planet, and so has no place on the 'pedia. Otherwise, every group would have a page.

Why does it matter to you? It doesn't effect you in ANY way your just making trouble I think you should be banned for posting this garbage.


I should be banned for posting something that your group has already been warned about doing? Fantastic logic there, old chap.

This page has already been vandalised once, and once the huge numbers of members in your rival groups learn what you can do with wikipedia, it'll be vandalised again, and again, and again. Then every group will want a page. Then, your petty, -blam!-, group wars will be outside the confines of B.Net and into the Wikipedia, which is meant to be a source of information. It's better to nip it in the bud and remove it all now. It does affect people; it affects the Wikipedia admins who have to deal with the kind of planks who vandalise articles on a daily basis, people whom i respect for keeping such an open source of information clean. The least we can do is make their job easier by removing innflamatory non-information.

  • 08.05.2006 7:42 PM PDT

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Its not a ad its gonna be our group history and some basic tactics and other stuff.

  • 08.05.2006 7:43 PM PDT
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I hope this thread gets locked its all advertising MBT.

  • 08.05.2006 7:45 PM PDT
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Posted by: Guardian Hunter
Its not a ad its gonna be our group history and some basic tactics and other stuff.


The group history would be fine if anyone on the planet gave a flying -blam!-, but it is not a place for basic tactics. It is a place to state facts about your group, everything else is pure conjecture and opinion, and as such, has no place on the wikipedia.

  • 08.05.2006 7:46 PM PDT

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Maybe a removal of the member count in groups will make this nonsense cease.

  • 08.05.2006 7:48 PM PDT

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Posted by: Guardian Hunter
Its not a ad its gonna be our group history and some basic tactics and other stuff.


The group history would be fine if anyone on the planet gave a flying -blam!-, but it is not a place for basic tactics. It is a place to state facts about your group, everything else is pure conjecture and opinion, and as such, has no place on the wikipedia.


How do you know anyone would care about it do you embody the opinions of every single person in the world? No I don't think so. The group history is facts and tactics are facts of a sort too. I also recall GameJunkieJim said that I had to make my own Wikipedia page because he did not want anyone from MBT adding anything to Bungie so before you go making accusitory threads think before you post.

I don't care about spelling mistakes so deal with it.

  • 08.05.2006 7:49 PM PDT

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Definitely one of the most creative group advertisements I've seen. Ranks right up there with the idiotic group war.

  • 08.05.2006 7:50 PM PDT
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I've been around these parts for almost eight years now...wow! Maybe I should be concerned about that...

Posted by: GameJunkieJim
Maybe a removal of the member count in groups will make this nonsense cease.
Perhaps...but that would also create difficulties with finding groups. What if you're looking for a group about Half Life or something that has the most members, meaning hte most activity? No member count would kind of make this tough...but perhaps a hidden member count?

Ah, I see it has changed...well, now it may have some purpose...but really, the article should be changed to Halo Tactics if it wishes to remain useful. An article about a group is useless, but Halo tactics may be of use to some.

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  • 08.05.2006 7:50 PM PDT
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Posted by: Guardian Hunter
Are you kidding...Wikipedia is not bungie, I made that page as a place holder for when I have the time to insert all he information.

But apparently its been edited....a couple of times if you look at the page history you'd know that.


Stop advertising on other sites.

It could result in your chapter being disbanded.

It's not needed.

  • 08.05.2006 7:50 PM PDT
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This isn't the place for this discussion. I'm just going to flag it for deletion and see how it goes. Well, try and flag it for deletion, never had to do it before.

  • 08.05.2006 7:50 PM PDT

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Posted by: Guardian Hunter
Its not a ad its gonna be our group history and some basic tactics and other stuff.


Heh. Such as shamelessly creating a spam page on Wikipedia in hopes of getting a higher member count? Or how about editing the Bungie Wiki, throwing in a MBT bit? Will those tactics be listed?

  • 08.05.2006 7:51 PM PDT

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Why the hell is everyone gunning for MBT, we've never done anything to anyone else but you guys all try to get the group disbanned at every turn.

  • 08.05.2006 7:53 PM PDT

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Posted by: Guardian Hunter
I also recall GameJunkieJim said that I had to make my own Wikipedia page because he did not want anyone from MBT adding anything to Bungie so before you go making accusitory threads think before you post.


Yes, I did say that, but I expected you would have followed the Wikipedia terms of use when doing so. You have not done that, and the last thing bungie.net needs is a bad reputation on a site such as Wikipedia. You so far have violated the no original research rule, the advertising rule, and the NPOV rule.

  • 08.05.2006 7:53 PM PDT

It was a cold day near the southern base in Blood Gulch. Cortana and I were relaxing over a game of Go Fish, WHEN OUT OF NO WHERE 700 BANSHEES CAME FLYING IN!!! I GRABED MY SPARTAN LASER AND LET HELL REIGN DOWN UPON THEM. I HOPPED IN THE NEAREST WARTHOG AND TOLD CORTANA TO GET IN.

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Posted by: Guardian Hunter
I also recall GameJunkieJim said that I had to make my own Wikipedia page because he did not want anyone from MBT adding anything to Bungie so before you go making accusitory threads think before you post.


Yes, I did say that, but I expected you would have followed the Wikipedia terms of use when doing so. You have not done that, and the last thing bungie.net needs is a bad reputation on a site such as Wikipedia. You so far have violated the no original research rule, the advertising rule, and the NPOV rule.


NPOV? I speak engrish :(

Err, just Wiki'd it. Neutral Point of View. Soz.

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  • 08.05.2006 7:55 PM PDT

Devil is Double is Deuce and Joker always trumps Deuce.

To me at least, it seems that MBT has caused more trouble than they're worth. Maybe a disbanding of the group itself or removal of it's leaders?

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  • 08.05.2006 7:55 PM PDT

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