Halo 1 & 2 for PC
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I need some help on finding the best video card to use for Halo on a 2002 Dell computer. At least so that it will run Halo at full video settings with not alot of lag. Help would be nice : ) I'll post my specs if you need them. Thx alot in advance.

  • 08.12.2006 10:57 PM PDT
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Framerate is mostly based on how much ram you have.

Lag is mostly based on what connection you have.

You need extra ram to run at full specs. without framerate lag.

  • 08.12.2006 11:03 PM PDT
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yeah i kno i;'m getting more RAM i still need better vid card

  • 08.12.2006 11:07 PM PDT
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we need the model of dell, and also the chipset of the motherboard

  • 08.12.2006 11:08 PM PDT
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What Gemini said, and another 256 mb stick of ram will do nicely.

  • 08.12.2006 11:53 PM PDT
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce2 MX
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce2 MX/MX 400
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0110&SUBSYS_010F10DE&REV_B2
Display Memory: 64.0 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor

There ya go.

  • 08.13.2006 12:43 AM PDT
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I meant the model of your Dell, however it can be safely assumed that that card is NOT a PCI-E card and so therefore it is most likely an AGP card. It's hard to find a lot of information about that GPU.

You didn't say how much you wanted to spend, but this is the best AGP card around right now.

7800GS

  • 08.13.2006 12:54 AM PDT
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I like my ATI Radeon 9800. But I need more ram, and my Penium 4 processor is screwed up, only runs at half capacity. If at all.
I CAN run Halo at full specs, but I have to stay the hell away from SP. And non-flamethrower flames. But otherwise pretty nice.
Max resolution of my monitor is 1280 x 1024, at 32bit colours (duh), using the ATI Catalyst control centre. With all the settings maxed out.

  • 08.13.2006 3:49 AM PDT
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you should prolly get a comp that will run vista before it comes out

  • 08.13.2006 6:34 AM PDT
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I have a nvida geforce fx5200. If u want to buy a decsent grahpic chip for halo 2 get a 7200 is 100 bucks now or 9200 and spend about 400 dolloars.

  • 08.13.2006 7:11 AM PDT
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Posted by: ImSpartacus
get a fx5500, i think thats the best pci card u can get, and u do need more ram, another 256 stic will indeed improve proformance nicely, but if u do have agp, then we have some more options, first make sure u have ethier pci or agp


Yeah, I have it, it works good in 800x600 you get about 20-32. I run in 640x480 (don't see a difference) I get 25-40.

  • 08.13.2006 7:13 AM PDT
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NO, YOU -blam!- IDIOTS.

RAM has little to do with your framerate, as long as you have enough to play the game that you are playing! Video RAM also has nothing to do with it, as long as you have enough.

Framerate is affected MOSTLY by how good your GPU is, and a little bit by your CPU. Here is a good, budget GPU to get right now: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681412121 6R

Only costs $130 and is garenteed to play halo on the highest settings at high resolutions with a good framerate.


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  • 08.13.2006 8:19 AM PDT
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I agree.

  • 08.13.2006 8:53 AM PDT
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Grr.

System Model: DIM4400
BIOS: Default System BIOS
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.70GHz
Memory: 256MB RAM
Page File: 222MB used, 395MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)

and looking to spend around $150-200

could This work?


[Edited on 8/13/2006]

  • 08.13.2006 10:33 AM PDT

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*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

Posted by: Deadly47
I have a nvida geforce fx5200. If u want to buy a decsent grahpic chip for halo 2 get a 7200 is 100 bucks now or 9200 and spend about 400 dolloars.


nope, the BFG 6200 with 256 megabytes of ram is by far the best pci card, the other ones with 128 megabytes are crap and are about even with the fx5500.

Posted by: SH4RK B1T3
NO, YOU -blam!- IDIOTS.

RAM has little to do with your framerate, as long as you have enough to play the game that you are playing! Video RAM also has nothing to do with it, as long as you have enough.

Framerate is affected MOSTLY by how good your GPU is, and a little bit by your CPU. Here is a good, budget GPU to get right now: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681412121 6R

Only costs $130 and is garenteed to play halo on the highest settings at high resolutions with a good framerate.


people trying to correct people by yelling at them AND then being wrong at the same time need to shut up.

here is the truth: engines can be cpu dependant(source and unreal) or gpu dependant(say something like oblivion or cod2)

of course there are other factors too, like resolution. In low resolution, your cpu determines your framerate since the gpu is starved of things to render, and in high resolutions the gpu can't render as fast as it can get info from the cpu.

  • 08.13.2006 5:04 PM PDT

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Posted by: Iggwilv

*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

Posted by: ImSpartacus
Posted by: SH4RK B1T3
NO, YOU -blam!- IDIOTS.

RAM has little to do with your framerate, as long as you have enough to play the game that you are playing! Video RAM also has nothing to do with it, as long as you have enough.

Framerate is affected MOSTLY by how good your GPU is, and a little bit by your CPU. Here is a good, budget GPU to get right now: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814 121216R

Only costs $130 and is garenteed to play halo on the highest settings at high resolutions with a good framerate.


ok when your a noob in this forum, u better shut your mouth and not flame anyone, or u will get raped so quickly by all the other regulars including myself, u never us all caps, espicially to flame with

besides that card sucks in comparison to the cards in its price range, this 6600gt is a similar price with better proformance

but i would recamand a 7800gs, thats if u can shell out the cash


actually
AGP 6800NU>6600gt
PCI-E 6800NU<6600gt

and then even so, spend like 20-30 more and get a 7600gs

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  • 08.13.2006 5:58 PM PDT
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My system specs (brought to you by dxdiag.exe)

Display:
Name: Radeon 9550 (ripped off by the dealer... grrr...)
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip Type: ATI Radeon 9550 AGP (0x4153)
DAC Type: Internal DAC (400Mhz)
Approx. Total Memory: 128.0 MB
Current Display Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32bit) (60hz)
Monitor: Default Monitor

System:
BIOS: Default System BIOS
Processor: Intel (R) Pentium (R) 4 2.80 GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.8Ghz
Memory: 510MB RAM
Page File: 336MB used, 1891MB Available
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)

  • 08.14.2006 2:06 AM PDT

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Posted by: Iggwilv

*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

Wait. why are you posting this?

  • 08.14.2006 2:49 AM PDT
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Wow. 1/2 of you have no idea what you are talking about.

If its a 2002 dell it probably only has AGP.

The best bet for your price range (~$150) is the 7600GS.

For $100 more you could get a much much better video card, the 7800GS.

The products I link to are purely for example purposes.

But in all realism, please dont expect to run H2PC that great or even Vista on your computer. AGP is dead, and if you plan on upgrading later on in the next year or so again, consiter a new computer.

  • 08.14.2006 7:48 AM PDT

If I were the original poster I would forget about getting any kind of video card, unless the only purpose is to play Halo. If he's looking for a good investment it's better if he waits 3-5 months for the new DX10 cards that'll roll out in Q4 2006, instead of blowing money now.

Also, everyone seems to forget that it's more than just GPU, you also have to think about the VRAM, (yes VRAM does matter, believe it) and the memory interface between the two. There's the pixel pipelines to think about. The memory and core clock to think about. The kind of stock fan it comes with(unless you're supplying your own. Also since it's a Dell, I'm almost positive it doesn't have an AGP card slot because I also owned a Dell 2002 model -blam!- Dell cut the corners and didn't give me an AGP slot. If I were you I'd go spend about $800 for a new PC (preferebly HP). You'll get a GPU chipset that'll outperform any PCI Card. Plus it's almost guaranteed you'll like your new PC for years to come.

If you're only looking for a new card and only want to play Halo, listen to what the others say, but I'm only trying to save your money from being spent recklessly.

P.S. - My current HP Pavilion has an ATI Chipset (Radeon Xpress 200) and it can play Halo at full settings, with camoflague and everything. Something to consider.

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  • 08.14.2006 10:08 AM PDT
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You could get a cheaper card now if you plan on getting a new PC for VIsta within the next year. You can get a GeForce 6200 256mb very cheap which will run Halo at full spec, should do anyway, I can run Counter Strike Source at full spec (minus the antiscopic and antialiasing) with around 30FPS. A game like Halo should run with ease on it...

I also run Vista beta 2 on my system with AERO etc and it works very fast so its a good card for now but not for high end future products.

The main needs for good framerate would be RAM (at least 512 I would recommend..), good VRAM (256 is good) and a fast fill rate on the GPU etc.


Oh and for clarifacation the importance of VRAM is that it stores the textures and shaders, therefore you can only have 256mb worth of textures on a screen at once if you have a 256mb card. Of course you could technically have more because its always streaming new textures in but for fast performance the textures are better stored in VRAM for quick rendering.

  • 08.14.2006 1:34 PM PDT

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