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Posted by: TUI_Obi_Wan
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I've seen many people who complain about overpowered vehicles I say:

Every vehicle has at least one weapon or vehicle to beat it, for example, banshees are usually beaten by warthog LRVs (the chaingun warthogs), LRVs are usually beaten by rocket warthogs and tanks, rocket hogs are beaten by tanks and banshees, tanks are beaten by banshees, or, just use your brains, pick up a rocket launcher, and blow the hell outta the bastards, or, use plasma grenades, so the next time you wanna complain that "Shees are for n00bz0rz" make sure i'm not around, or i'll kick your ass.

But if they're spawncamping the hell outta you and teleblocking you and not letting you get anywhere, I don't blame you.

Thank you for reading my post.

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  • 08.15.2006 4:05 AM PDT
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This is where i jump in and say you clearly suck at halo PC.

Reasons:

1. You shouldn't have to play it on a rock paper scissors basis, where is the skill in that?
2. 2 people in a hog to take on 1 person in a banshee, make it 1 person in each, who will win?
3. At any range the machine gun hog beats the rocket hog.
4. it is very hard to hit a shee with a rocket, it just has to fly high and has time to avoid it.
5. Stop being a vehicle nub and learn how to kill with sniper and pistol.

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  • 08.15.2006 4:17 AM PDT
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Posted by: TUI_Obi_Wan
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Touche, but I'm giving out pointers to the idiots out there who don't know how to sniped.


Second, I don't understand the terms of your second question.


Third, the rocket hog may move in to a closer range to kill, and the fact that usually, someone wouldn't really chase a LRV hog when they have a passanger with the flag.


Fourth, there are so many morons who run over players with shees that i just couldn't say no to putting that part up.


Fifth, I am rather good with the pistol, but it's never as good as the ol' AR, and I am not a vehicle noob, I only use vehicles for transportation, and if im feeling like a cheap bastard, running over ppl for cheap kills >:D



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  • 08.15.2006 4:51 AM PDT
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I agree with both of you in this one. I don't like how whiny people complain that getting roadkilled didn't count. Gosh, the designers put in vehicles in multiplayer for a reason: to play with them.

But at the same time, you're right Nessy, Halo shouldn't be a simple rock paper scissors match, where if you get the better weapon you always win. I mean, you can still beat a guy with a rocket launcher with a mere AR with extreme luck, skill, and patience. Chain hogs can't ALWAYS beat shees, because if shees are too close, with one blast from the shee's fuel rod gun, you'll be tipped over, and you'll be seeing your corpse in no time. Halo should be about skills and teamwork, not a guessing game.

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Someone with the skill to use every aspect of the game will win every time over someone who thinks themselves somehow above using vehicles, heavies, etc.

This taboo exists for no reason. They may take no skill, but everyone has the opportunity to use them. That makes it a level playing field, so it's time to stop complaining and start playing and ENJOYING the game again. There is no logic in this taboo. It's all in your head.

Every time someone calls me a noob, it makes me play a little harder, encourages me to hop in a shee, and go own the pistol purist morons with a vehicle they easily could use better than I if they weren't too stupid to take advantage of it.

What if our military decided that using their jets, their rockets, or advanced technology was unfair? What if they stopped using it and stuck to guns alone because of some moronic honor code that exists only in their minds? We'd get owned, and this time in real life. It makes no sense not to use all of the resources available to you.

I agree with the original poster: Stop whining.

  • 08.15.2006 4:54 AM PDT
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Posted by: TUI_Obi_Wan
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I've seriously owned people using rockets and fuel rods with ARs.

And IPjuunin: I agree with you, I should of said that LRVs don't always win, but I did say usually , so im actually right in a way :D

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  • 08.15.2006 4:55 AM PDT
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Posted by: JesusCtheSpartan
Someone with the skill to use every aspect of the game will win every time over someone who thinks themselves somehow above using vehicles, heavies, etc.

This taboo exists for no reason. They may take no skill, but everyone has the opportunity to use them. That makes it a level playing field, so it's time to stop complaining and start playing and ENJOYING the game again. There is no logic in this taboo. It's all in your head.

Every time someone calls me a noob, it makes me play a little harder, encourages me to hop in a shee, and go own the pistol purist morons with a vehicle they easily could use better than I if they weren't too stupid to take advantage of it.

What if our military decided that using their jets, their rockets, or advanced technology was unfair? What if they stopped using it and stuck to guns alone because of some moronic honor code that exists only in their minds? We'd get owned, and this time in real life. It makes no sense not to use all of the resources available to you.

I agree with the original poster: Stop whining.


So very true. I definitely agree with your last paragraph. It's the same with spawnkilling/camping. The military uses these tactics. If they think sniping in an unseen area is unfair, should they just come out in the open and let their enemies have a head start pounding us with bullets? Should they just stop using vehicles and heavy weapons and fight on land only, armed with only a few clips of lead?

I hope all you whiners of HaloPC learned something from this.

I've seriously owned people using rockets and fuel rods with ARs.

And IPjuunin: I agree with you, I should of said that LRVs don't always win, but I did say usually , so im actually right in a way :D


Yes you're right. .50 cal machine guns do have an advantage over shees, and as you said, not all the times, but most of the times (depending how good the shee pilot is, how bad a machine gunner you are, or how much luck is put into each player in this game of fate).

And true, it's pretty easy to beat a random guy threatening you with a rocket launcher with an AR, I've done it many a times as well. =D

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  • 08.15.2006 4:58 AM PDT
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Posted by: TUI_Obi_Wan
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It's not scissors, paper and rock, but it does help to think it out that way, easier to remember.

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my second question is saying that it should not need 2 playres to take out 1 player. wtf does the flag have to do with anything? and tbh you cant just tell people to go and get rockets, you don't always have the oppurtunity to RL/stickies.

  • 08.15.2006 5:00 AM PDT
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Posted by: TUI_Obi_Wan
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Ok, you kinda got me there... But you can always try drawing in the shee for an ambush, or get someone to sneak into a tele and flank the shee.

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Posted by: JesusCtheSpartan
Someone with the skill to use every aspect of the game will win every time over someone who thinks themselves somehow above using vehicles, heavies, etc.

This taboo exists for no reason. They may take no skill, but everyone has the opportunity to use them. That makes it a level playing field, so it's time to stop complaining and start playing and ENJOYING the game again. There is no logic in this taboo. It's all in your head.

Every time someone calls me a noob, it makes me play a little harder, encourages me to hop in a shee, and go own the pistol purist morons with a vehicle they easily could use better than I if they weren't too stupid to take advantage of it.

What if our military decided that using their jets, their rockets, or advanced technology was unfair? What if they stopped using it and stuck to guns alone because of some moronic honor code that exists only in their minds? We'd get owned, and this time in real life. It makes no sense not to use all of the resources available to you.

I agree with the original poster: Stop whining.


fortunately halo isn't real life. it isnt a level playing field when someone spawns right next to a banshee. Also its not impressive or at all fun to just use shees, it is so cheap and if more people were not like that, maybe the side of halo pc with good players wouldn't currently be dieing.

  • 08.15.2006 5:03 AM PDT
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Posted by: TUI_Obi_Wan
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Dude, one simple command, stay the hell away from death island servers if they have all vehicles on them.

  • 08.15.2006 5:06 AM PDT
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Posted by: Nessy
Posted by: JesusCtheSpartan
Someone with the skill to use every aspect of the game will win every time over someone who thinks themselves somehow above using vehicles, heavies, etc.

This taboo exists for no reason. They may take no skill, but everyone has the opportunity to use them. That makes it a level playing field, so it's time to stop complaining and start playing and ENJOYING the game again. There is no logic in this taboo. It's all in your head.

Every time someone calls me a noob, it makes me play a little harder, encourages me to hop in a shee, and go own the pistol purist morons with a vehicle they easily could use better than I if they weren't too stupid to take advantage of it.

What if our military decided that using their jets, their rockets, or advanced technology was unfair? What if they stopped using it and stuck to guns alone because of some moronic honor code that exists only in their minds? We'd get owned, and this time in real life. It makes no sense not to use all of the resources available to you.

I agree with the original poster: Stop whining.


fortunately halo isn't real life. it isnt a level playing field when someone spawns right next to a banshee. Also its not impressive or at all fun to just use shees, it is so cheap and if more people were not like that, maybe the side of halo pc with good players wouldn't currently be dieing.


Nessy, I respect you and all, with your 1337ness of Halo, but I must sadly disagree with you (sorry...). The designers put in vehicles in HaloPC for a reason, and as I have already said, the reason was: to play with them. And plus, if you really think that way, thinking constant vehicle whores are noobs, maybe this can be a good thing. This puts a line between noobs and experts, well in your case. It'd be easier to identify a noob in your point of view, I guess.

  • 08.15.2006 5:08 AM PDT
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it does make it easier to point out noobs, when people say "i suck when i run out of nades" or "i am good at running people over" then it tell me they are noobs.

The reason i hate vehicle noobs is because it just spoils things, who can't run peopl over? my 8 year old brother can run people over.

If moe people actually joined clans that wanted to go far then the competitve and - sorry to say this - higher level of halo pc community would last even longer than it already has.

PS. When and where is your gathering, I might show and pwn a lil bit, even with my 166 ping.

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  • 08.15.2006 5:11 AM PDT
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Posted by: TUI_Obi_Wan
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I'd have to kinda agree too, the vehicle whoring on some servers is outta control, jesus, I have to steal the fuel rod gun so the other team won't go superwhore on us.

  • 08.15.2006 5:12 AM PDT
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Posted by: TUI_Obi_Wan
And it's your connection that's slower than turtle sex.

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The sniper and shotgun can counter the sword if used properly, but it would take a very skilled and lucky LRV gunner to take out a banshee, I realize that. A better example of unbalanced halo 2 weapons is the PP + BR combo


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  • 08.15.2006 5:17 AM PDT
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Posted by: TUI_Obi_Wan
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Your right on that, man, seems like he only answer to defeating a guy with an unbalanced weapon is another unbalanced weapon, like rockets lol.

  • 08.15.2006 5:20 AM PDT
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How about rockets? The SPNKr Rocket Launchers might be able to beat energy swords in Lockout.

Darn, noobnoobnoob, you beat me to a post. But ok, what IF there was rockets on lockout? Wouldn't that balance the power of the sword? At least by a little?

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  • 08.15.2006 5:22 AM PDT
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Posted by: TUI_Obi_Wan
And it's your connection that's slower than turtle sex.

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I gotta go, I'll argue some more later. Tomorrows a school free day w00h00!

  • 08.15.2006 5:23 AM PDT