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Trekkie: The chainhog doesn't use pistol rounds. The pistol used 12.7 mm AE (.50 Action Express). The chainhog uses 12.7mm BMG (.50 Browning Machine Gun) The AE looks like a large pistol round. The BMG is a rifle round.

And of course there's skill in bombarding with the frg. I can smoke a hog running full speed from one accross the middle of Infinity. (it's not easy)

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  • 08.16.2006 10:21 AM PDT
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Posted by: noobnoobnoob
I "bombard" with the FRG all the time, not actually that hard and like I said it's simply a case of staying high in a banshee.

No skill in either of those tbh


Aw, come on, must we keep debating whether or not it takes skill? I have no reason to hate you, to be honest, I'm beginning to like your intelligent posts, reminds me of other Maw regulars who in fact posts the deepest truth. But really, if it took no skill, in yours and Nessy's point of view, just don't play with them. It's not like they're that hard to take down...

But nice debating with you noobnoobnoob (can I just call you noobcubed? or something? I hate typing a repetetive name this long, lol). You may fire back at me all you want, but expect very little responses from me to you, I'm done for the day. I think I'll just go to the public library and read there for a few hours. Ah...peace...

  • 08.16.2006 10:22 AM PDT
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You could call him noobx3, nubnubnub, or just noob.

Banshees are not for noobs, that's my opinion. If you think they're for noobs, then I respect your opinion.

  • 08.16.2006 10:28 AM PDT

Posted by: Ryukage
What? Play a game? FOR FUN???
This concept of fun confuses and infuriates me!

People have their prefrences.
If I remember correctly, Obi-wan used to be able to rain death with the Banshee.

The only way I classify someone as a "noob" if in them, is if they are ramming the damn thing into the ground and writing their own death note, or if they are sitting on a portal waiting for people to go through and die.
Someone who can use it, will effectivly fly around, in the air, and rain death on the people below.

  • 08.16.2006 10:29 AM PDT
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Posted by: ConMan77
The only way I classify someone as a "noob" if in them, is if they are ramming the damn thing into the ground and writing their own death note, or if they are sitting on a portal waiting for people to go through and die.
Someone who can use it, will effectivly fly around, in the air, and rain death on the people below.

Posted by: OmniosSpartan
QFGDMFT!

  • 08.16.2006 10:31 AM PDT
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Posted by: Master Kim
Posted by: ConMan77
The only way I classify someone as a "noob" if in them, is if they are ramming the damn thing into the ground and writing their own death note, or if they are sitting on a portal waiting for people to go through and die.
Someone who can use it, will effectivly fly around, in the air, and rain death on the people below.

Posted by: OmniosSpartan
QFGDMFT!

  • 08.16.2006 10:33 AM PDT

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Posted by: noobnoobnoob
I'm not taking it as flames or anything.

I'm only really bothering because I'm bored and I agree with nessy.

Ok here is the problem as I can see with your argument.

When you pick up a FRG for the first time you probably don't know what it is.

Then you realise how good it is at killing vehicles and enclosed spaces.

With the banshee you don't know what to do with it at firstbut you soon realise the idea is to go up high and rain plasma death on them and flying into them from behind.

Doesn't take any skill it's simply learning how it works.
Actually I disagree. I can kill reasonably well with pistol, sniper rifle, AR, etc– learning to account for the netcode and leading my shots. If I open a LAN game by myself I can use a FRG to blast a hog, send it flying and keep hitting it as it bounces around the map, but in a multiplayer game I can't hit crap with the FRG and usually kill myself with it in close quarters fighting. I don't know if it's just a lag thing, (I can account for lag with other weapons), or something else, but I'm actually better with the conventional weapons than the HWs.

There's some sort of skill involved besides learning "how they work."

  • 08.16.2006 10:38 AM PDT
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13/02/2005 (I've been on since then.)
Group RPG's!

DO NOT DO IT! DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT DOING IT! DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT NOT DOING IT!

There are no bad weapons. People don't think that its just for fun and its and its just a game.

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  • 08.16.2006 10:40 AM PDT
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Posted by: SimonJester753
If I open a LAN game by myself I can use a FRG to blast a hog, send it flying and keep hitting it as it bounces around the map

I can do that in multiplayer too. :P

Heavy weapons and banshees take skill to a certain degree. It's the people that misuse and abuse them that give them a bad name. I will defend the banshee if I must.

  • 08.16.2006 10:44 AM PDT
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Posted by: Master Kim
Posted by: SimonJester753
If I open a LAN game by myself I can use a FRG to blast a hog, send it flying and keep hitting it as it bounces around the map

I can do that in multiplayer too. :P

Heavy weapons and banshees take skill to a certain degree. It's the people that misuse and abuse them that give them a bad name. I will defend the banshee if I must.


I shall defend with you, Master Kim! (as long as that's not a problem...lol)

  • 08.16.2006 10:45 AM PDT

Posted by: Ryukage
What? Play a game? FOR FUN???
This concept of fun confuses and infuriates me!

I will defend the banshee as well. Not everyone who uses it sucks.

  • 08.16.2006 11:06 AM PDT
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I said they take no skill, meaning i never ever ever use them, and will still score very well against anyone who does use them, as the practice needed for them is minimal.

  • 08.16.2006 2:10 PM PDT
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If you never ever ever use them, how do you know they take no skill? Halo's not only about the pistol/sniper. Why don't you try using them once in a while? You might even have fun. That's why I like them.

  • 08.16.2006 2:56 PM PDT
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i used them ages ago, and every good player (like from leagues not from places like bungie.net lol) knows they take no skill, hence why they are never used in matches.

  • 08.16.2006 2:57 PM PDT
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oooh leagues... Ya, so a person HAS to be in a league to be skilled? get off you're -blam!- high horse dude. There's lots of good people here who use all the vehicles that came with the game. Just cuz we're not in some stupid league doesn't mean we're skill-less noobs.

  • 08.16.2006 3:03 PM PDT
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Posted by: TUI_Obi_Wan
oooh leagues... Ya, so a person HAS to be in a league to be skilled? get off you're -blam!- high horse dude. There's lots of good people here who use all the vehicles that came with the game. Just cuz we're not in some stupid league doesn't mean we're skill-less noobs.


Yes. I'm getting tired of "pros" and their stupid "leagues". Like you guys get too cocky and stuff and it's -hump!- annoying. Not all of us are "pros" and not all of us sit in front of the PC all day looking for KW teams and -hump!- like that.

  • 08.16.2006 3:15 PM PDT

Posted by: Ryukage
What? Play a game? FOR FUN???
This concept of fun confuses and infuriates me!

KW sucks. The only people who are really on there are the people who have no true life.

The Banshee and other vehicles suck if you don't know how to use them.
I'm sick of hearing how good you think you are. Just because you know how to kill beginners doesnt make you any better. Just because you can use a pistol doesnt make you a damn god. Go find some REAL people to go up against, instead of the KW -blam!-s.

  • 08.16.2006 3:31 PM PDT
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Posted by: TUI_Obi_Wan
And it's your connection that's slower than turtle sex.

In........................................................Out .

whoever said about using the so called "noob" weapons is correct, there are some pretty good ways to use them other than killing, there are some snipers on Danger Canyon and they are smart bastards, when someone tries to protect themselves from behind an energy shield, they get something explosive and flush the person out.

And the pistol does not pwn all, it has some weaknesses under some circumstances.

  • 08.16.2006 3:35 PM PDT
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This is turning into a flamefest.
Go the shotty! Sniperz (the players, not the gun) sux.
And running people down in a ghost takes skill.
I'm proud to say that I am moderately good at it.
The ONLY weapon the really sux is the rocket launcher.
Not because it is too powerfull, but because it takes too long to refire.
Otherwise it is fine.

  • 08.16.2006 10:03 PM PDT
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I'd just like to take a minute to agree that using a banshee takes skill, but not in the way people are saying it does. Currently, it looks like popular opinion says it's a good idea to fly high up and rain plasma death on opponents.

Posted by: ConMan577
People have their prefrences.
If I remember correctly, Obi-wan used to be able to rain death with the Banshee.

The only way I classify someone as a "noob" if in them, is if they are ramming the damn thing into the ground and writing their own death note, or if they are sitting on a portal waiting for people to go through and die.
Someone who can use it, will effectivly fly around, in the air, and rain death on the people below.


Posted by: noobnoobnoob
With the banshee you don't know what to do with it at firstbut you soon realise the idea is to go up high and rain plasma death on them and flying into them from behind.


WHAT. THE. -blam!-.

This is a very VERY bad strategy: it's akin to flying that fighter jet (really, a better analogy is a helicopter or something, the damn thing is so slow) slowly through an area full of anti-aircraft cannons (i.e. peoples pistols, tank shells, MG hogs, AR fire). Doing so for any lengthy period of time will get you shot up. Hell, 2 banshees telecamping is about 200% more effective than 2 banshees sitting in the air waitng to be shot down.

The banshee fire is slow, slow, SLOW, you can easily dodge it from a distance while unloading a pistol full of ammo into it. Ground troops vs banshees almost always have the number advantage, and to stay in their range of fire is stupid. Admittedly trying to ram them from a long approach from the top is also stupid, but the BANSHEE ITSELF is a weapon, a giant purple vee-wedge of INSTANT DEATH. It kills people very fast instantly and should be used as such - running people over from behind or popping up under cliffs is the proper way a banshee should be used, not sitting in the air or trying a 50m landing approach on the infantry. Why do you think aircraft do terrain-following maneuvers?

Staying in the air just means more people shooting at you. The real reason people die in banshees is because they're mostly predictable, for example someone's banshee is camping the portal, so the enemy go grab a shotgun and they die. Someone drunkenly flying above your airspace? They get a hail of pistol ammo.

Seriously. Stay low in banshees, and be unpredictable - it's a much better way of fighting than going up.




On another note:

Posted by: SimonJester753
I can kill reasonably well with pistol, sniper rifle, AR, etc– learning to account for the netcode and leading my shots. If I open a LAN game by myself I can use a FRG to blast a hog, send it flying and keep hitting it as it bounces around the map, but in a multiplayer game I can't hit crap with the FRG and usually kill myself with it in close quarters fighting. I don't know if it's just a lag thing, (I can account for lag with other weapons), or something else, but I'm actually better with the conventional weapons than the HWs.

Hate. FRG. Stupid green blobs...hard to aim...grr.

  • 08.16.2006 10:41 PM PDT
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I like it. Short range only, though, and noobs use it to bombard bases. But the refire is a little high, and the battery lasts too long. Overheat is good, though.

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Posted by: ConMan577
KW sucks. The only people who are really on there are the people who have no true life.

The Banshee and other vehicles suck if you don't know how to use them.
I'm sick of hearing how good you think you are. Just because you know how to kill beginners doesnt make you any better. Just because you can use a pistol doesnt make you a damn god. Go find some REAL people to go up against, instead of the KW -blam!-s.


They suck, and i bet i can use them alot better than you.

Oh and I have no life? Why? Because im better than you at a game?

  • 08.17.2006 12:18 AM PDT
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13/02/2005 (I've been on since then.)
Group RPG's!

DO NOT DO IT! DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT DOING IT! DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT NOT DOING IT!

People flame others for using weapons like the fuel rod. Thats one of the best weapons around!!!

  • 08.17.2006 12:20 AM PDT