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Posted by: FiltratedGrub
Ok nice idea i wont play Team Carnage. Rumble Hardcore is better anyway, so why dont i play that. O YA! It got deleted that sucks you noob

Rumble Hardcore did not get deleted to make room for Team Carnage. One Playlist does not replace another Playlist (except for in some rare occurrences such as how Big Team Skirmish and Big Team Slayer replaced Big Team Battle). Rumble Hardcore was removed to make it so that people do not waste too much time trying to play Rumble Hardcore. Team Carnage came so that the people who can no longer play Rumble Hardcore would have another playlist to choose from. There would be a few people who would feel that they would rather wait for a long amount of time to play Rumble Hardcore than to wait for a short amount of time to play Team Carnage or any other available Playlist, but the people who have this mindset are in the minority and Bungie (probably) wants to please as many people as possible.

  • 08.22.2006 8:02 PM PDT
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Posted by: FiltratedGrub
Ok nice idea i wont play Team Carnage. Rumble Hardcore is better anyway, so why dont i play that. O YA! It got deleted that sucks you noob

Rumble Hardcore did not get deleted to make room for Team Carnage. One Playlist does not replace another Playlist (except for in some rare occurrences such as how Big Team Skirmish and Big Team Slayer replaced Big Team Battle). Rumble Hardcore was removed to make it so that people do not waste too much time trying to play Rumble Hardcore. Team Carnage came so that the people who can no longer play Rumble Hardcore would have another playlist to choose from. There would be a few people who would feel that they would rather wait for a long amount of time to play Rumble Hardcore than to wait for a short amount of time to play Team Carnage or any other available Playlist, but the people who have this mindset are in the minority and Bungie (probably) wants to please as many people as possible.


thank you!

  • 08.22.2006 8:20 PM PDT

dude dis matchmaking has gots to go!!!!!! ASAP!!!!!!!

  • 08.22.2006 8:43 PM PDT
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Capture Madness is sick...sick sick sick
60 plus kills on Midship with ease...
Awesome passing chains....damn i love this one
Bungie should consider adding something like this into BTB Skirmish

oo and btw i pray for Flag Wars now. On coag, Flag Wars was totally unbalanced towards the red team, but on waterworks...damn it is fun. I wish there was a way to make it 5 rounds, so there is no way to tie. Great job revamping Flag Wars Bungie! Now, if you were to add Containment (and keep Waterworks)...that would be sickening

  • 08.22.2006 9:22 PM PDT
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As i read over previous posts, i saw several people on this thread who seem like die-hard Rumble Hardcore fans. They talk like they are insanely good, but don't have the levels to back it up. One was a 29 and the other a 30. Now you may look at my stats and see that i'm a 30, but i've held a 34 for a while but due to the influx of standbyers and bridgers, i've dropped a few levels. You can also see that i have several ranks in the high twenties, while the 29 and 30 have none. Anyways, i'm not sure why they are complaining that the playlist is gone, as from what i see looking at their stats, they are the kind of player who gets 7 kills 23 deaths and then quits 5 minutes into the game. But for the people who are actually good at RHC (i was 12 for 27) it's a tough loss. But we'll get over it and go back to our customs with the people we're used to playing with. Oh and if those two people that i seem to be dissing think that they are better than me, feel free to send me a friend request and i'll show you how to use your BR. Strangely enough, you learn a lot from dying :)

  • 08.22.2006 9:35 PM PDT
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its meant for fun if you dont like it, dont play it. its that simple

  • 08.22.2006 9:47 PM PDT

Sounds AWESOME!!!!!! Can't wait to play it!

Though I doubt both it and ActionSack will survive together for long...

  • 08.22.2006 9:57 PM PDT
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seriously... I would rather play Rumble Hardcore... which I have like one game on... why not bring back something people want like Clan Matches... these game types are horrible... there's moe quiters in Team Carnage then any games I've ever played... I mean... I'd play team actionsack if I wanted to play 75% of the playlist... PLEASE, REMOVE THIS & BRING BACK CLAN MATCHES!

  • 08.22.2006 10:01 PM PDT
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Worst playlist ever.

  • 08.22.2006 10:19 PM PDT

RIP Halo 2.

Personally I hate this playlist, about the same as I hate Action Sack.

God forbid a balanced, fun, and thought out playlist, like oh, say, Team Tactics didn't make it.

I want my Rumble Hardcore back.

  • 08.23.2006 2:34 AM PDT

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*sigh* Bungie have said for, litterally, years that they would remove playlists that didn't get played often enough. As with clan match, if you really wanted it to stay, you should have got yourself and others to play it more.

However, the vast majority of people didn't play it often enough to warrant leaving it as is and reducing the pool of players for other playlists, and hence, the chance that you get a lag free match.

Now, Bungie have also said for months that they will be introducing fan created playlists into the MM formula. If you SOOO didn't like the general idea then you should have expressed that earlier.

I personally find that this playlists sounds quite fun, others don't. Ultimately, the numbers will speak the truth. If this playlists is incredibly popular and lots of people play it regularly, then it will likely stay for quite a long time. On the other hand, if popularity sinks like a rock after a few days, it will get removed in favour of, likely, another fan community designed playlist.

So, instead of flaming here, vote with your feet (read: controller) and choose to either play, or not to play, this playlists. Thats the way its longevity will be decided.

  • 08.23.2006 3:13 AM PDT
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I like the idea of this and a lot of the gametypes look fun and would be cool to play, but why are there soooo many (4/10 of the gametypes listed) based around shotguns
As a gamer in the u.k. the chances of actually winning a shotgun dual against someone in america, even if your skill level is far greater than theirs, is so slim its not even worth trying :/

  • 08.23.2006 3:58 AM PDT

Play MLG.

You took out Rumble Hardcore to put in Team Action Sack 2?

Half of these games have no shields and rockets. The other half have no shields and shotguns.

Not only is skill no longer necessary, but it basically means host team automatically wins, no matter what.

[sarcasm] Awesome. [/sarcasm]

  • 08.23.2006 6:00 AM PDT
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As a gamer in the u.k. the chances of actually winning a shotgun dual against someone in america, even if your skill level is far greater than theirs, is so slim its not even worth trying :/


You'd be surprised. I'm a UK gamer also, and I tend to do pretty good in shotgun based matches.

  • 08.23.2006 6:01 AM PDT
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Hmm well lets see we have

Team Action Sack
and
Team Carnage

BUT WAIT

Then we have
Team Slayer
Rumble Pit
Team Skirmish
BTB SLayer
BTB Skirmish
Team Snipers
Team Swat
Multi Team
Double Team
Team Hardcore
i prob forgot something but

so its 2 to 10 +

man it looks like you flamerz have nothing else to play o wait theirs 10 more matchmaking types

ooooo...oooo.ooooo man

do you have nothing better to do than complain?

  • 08.23.2006 7:32 AM PDT
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WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Tower of Power in matchmaking AWSOME. unless one team spawn at the tower. I was one of teh first guys to play T.O.P back in 04' with some good team players. One of them claims he created the gametype.

  • 08.23.2006 11:18 AM PDT

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I thi9nk its just stupid! specially the games with the shotgun,because i think the shottie is now the stupiddest gun,u should at least put the power of the shotgun as high as when ur host,because when u shoot a guy from less then 2 feet and then melee attack and he does die!! sorry but this is NOT a shotgun,its more like a pistol,i bet that i would do more damage with a pistol then a shotgun!!! and i dont say this as a 1 time deal,,it happend to me all the time,,the shotgun suck and it got NO power at all! thats it thats all! bye!
If u wanna make something people whants,put Team Swat ranked,,a lot of people whants that,cause when u think about it,di u really wanna play a team swat with ur guessed,,who...face it suck.so they get own all the times?? think about it bungie!! bye and have a good day!!

  • 08.23.2006 2:02 PM PDT

Team carnage?, played it first time last night, what a load of sh1te.
I played 2 games both were crazy otto??? on warlock, half the people quit in both games and both games were in yellow connection for the duration of each.

I dont "do" 6v6 or Bigteam as latency and lag make the game a joke, it seems a lot of people's connection can't handle 8 people never mind 12-16 players in a game.
Bungie removed 6v6 because of lack of interest and at a later date give us.... 6v6 Actionsack WTF?, we already have Actionsack why now all of a sudden do we need a 6v6 version?, are we all such big fans of lag or latency? no i didnt think so, and at least with Actionsack your likely (1 out of 10 games) to get something you'll like playing.

I think Bungie have fluffed this again,they had the opportunity to give us something really fresh and interesting, what do they give us? Tower of power a gametype thats ranks easily in the top ten worst custom games ever.... swiftly followed by Zombies.
Somethings up when your average player (me) sees Bungie watering their game down in to some half baked joke.
I'm not going to list the game variations in this playlist, needless to say HBO should stick to websites as their taste customs games is horrible.
And that is exactly what this is, a playlist of custom games, are we all beyond help that we can't set up Tower of power (i never would) as a custom game by ourselves?, that we need a huge company like Bungie to do it for us?, a company that is so busy with H3 to bother with cheating ect in H2, but can find time to give us Crazy otto or Shwotgun ctf on B.C.?
This is a joke.

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well personally, i think this new gametype is bull -blam!-...i think this because i love rumble hardcore. I play it all the time, helps me get better on my BR and 1v1 all at once. Now, me and my friend played it, just to try to give it a shot....it was the stupidest gametype ive ever played... CTF 2 flags to score in one round. Everyone quit out it was soo stupid. What I want (and i hope this forum is about what players want out of their gaming experience) is something like rumble hardcore, or some more ranked gametypes instead of about 5 and the rest being unranked. I am an intense gamer, as if you have played with me, you will know that i am very competitive and i want to win. Well whats there to win if its not even ranked. well anyways im done venting so hopefully this post will come into use as bungie decides to get their little brains working and thinking about its not what BUNGIE wants...its about the PEOPLE who play it, who spend money on halo 2, and xbox live!!

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  • 08.23.2006 2:25 PM PDT
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Yeah this new playlist is actually shockingly terrible, they're all the sort of gametypes that just get old and boring really quickly. It's the same thing, over and over and over and over and over again. Yawn.

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Posted by: Chef Mathieu
I thi9nk its just stupid! specially the games with the shotgun,because i think the shottie is now the stupiddest gun,u should at least put the power of the shotgun as high as when ur host,because when u shoot a guy from less then 2 feet and then melee attack and he does die!! sorry but this is NOT a shotgun,its more like a pistol,i bet that i would do more damage with a pistol then a shotgun!!! and i dont say this as a 1 time deal,,it happend to me all the time,,the shotgun suck and it got NO power at all! thats it thats all! bye!
If u wanna make something people whants,put Team Swat ranked,,a lot of people whants that,cause when u think about it,di u really wanna play a team swat with ur guessed,,who...face it suck.so they get own all the times?? think about it bungie!! bye and have a good day!!



I see your opinion about the coveted "Host Shotgun"... I think the playlist is interesting I may even try it. There is a discrepancy in your statement. Host does not do MORE damage, they are more ACCURATE. Host "sees" the game in 'real' time. Everyone else has milliseconds of what's called "Latency". Latency is the distance from my modem to yours. If you are system linked then there is about .0005 seconds of latency. If you are in Switzerland and I'm in Mexico. There would be a TON of latency. Most Optimatch games are designed to match the user to a game with the LEAST amount of latency between host and users. The exception are bridgers. Check the stats on slayers games. If the host died 5 times in a ten minute game, then his average life would be 2:00. Now let's say you died 10 times and your average life would show 0:59. That is because the host loads up instanly and you spawn a millisecond behind. Having the shotgun at close range with host will kill instantly because your are the exact distance on the screen away from the target. Without host they are actually 2 steps further away which makes it harder to kill your target as accuracy drops and less srpay hits the target.

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Well this crapy playlist is gonna fail...sure its gonna be played for a week. Then its going to drop down to zero.

I dont know what bungie was thinking..these gametypes arent any fun...1/2 of them are NO Shields..well if wana play with no shields ill go to freakin swat.

This sucks...come on bungie , i love you guys...

  • 08.23.2006 4:47 PM PDT
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the problem is not with the playlist, it is with the idiots who play matchmaking. i almost always go into games solo. every game- random teammates, random enemies. in the carnage games i've played its been the same. as soon as a couple people enter the lobby, they start flaming. "team carnage sucks." its like its a race to see who can say it isn't cool first, just so everyone knows how cool the person b*tching about it is. why are you playing it then? get the -blam!- out. once everyone is divided into teams and the gametype comes up, the b*tches really get annoying. "aw man, this -blam!- is so -blam!-." the gametype is -blam!-? you're the one who is flaming, ya jackass. if everyone could go into the game and try to work within the rules of the selected gametype to win, it would be different. but they don't. they are to busy complaining. trying to figure out what type of game it is and the different variations is just too much for people on matchmaking. I just like to play halo and feel i will kick your ass no matter what the rules. i don't -blam!- about what game has been selected. after all, it was MY choice to enter whatever playlist i'm in. in the couple games of carnage i've played where a few of my teammates didn't quit and, more importantly, actually tried, carnage was fun. i would say the only flaw with this playlist is that it was designed by intelligent people, while matchmaking is mostly overrun by idiots.

  • 08.23.2006 4:52 PM PDT

I like Team Actionsack a lot.

So this is like Actionsack on steroids. I like that.

However I am a little dissapointed, because when you guys said that the gametypes on this playlist were going to be created by the community, and we ere going to vote what was cool and what wasnt, I really thought you meant us. I thought we were going to be involved somehow. Not just your friends at HBO.

But oh well. Good playlist. Good luck with all the haters.

  • 08.23.2006 5:02 PM PDT