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Subject: Halo 2 Vista: Mapmaking
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I dont plan on buying anything but h3 the HELL with vista its goign to be Junk

  • 08.22.2006 6:24 PM PDT
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I suggest you all read some of the tutorials for Halo Custom Edition map making, found here:

http://ghost.halomaps.org/tutorials/

Halo Custom Edition was the Editable form of halo1 for the PC. It allowed competely custom content. Now, im assuming, based on the app names for h2v, that the tools will be pretty much the same. And if they are, most of those tutorials are extremely similar. Such as the modelling, the tool commands, the guerilla parts, and the sapien parts. But thats only a guess. Hopefully it will be though, cause like i said, a lot of us are extremely experienced in HEK. And this is basically a HEK 2.0.

And you would need this all on your PC, and this wouldnt do xbox maps (i assume) without an external app, and a modded xbox, and a bunch of other map converters. Cause it is possible atm for comepetely new halo 1 maps, like.. as in... completely new. Like i could model a level from prince of persia, and using a converter make an xbox map. But halo2v is gonna be different from standard H2, so im sure the maps wont be the same coding. :(

Ah well... i just want more info, some pics, and for them to fix that spelling mistake i caught, then mention me as finding that mistake :P

  • 08.22.2006 6:26 PM PDT
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i say forget about h2v and get cracking on halo 3... bungie should be releasing it november of 07 and they should work on mapmaking there... they have done enough with halo 2... MOVE ON TO HALO 3!!!!!!!!!!

  • 08.22.2006 6:26 PM PDT

cant for it to come out.im buying a new computer when vista comes out.
oh and bungie include a mapmaker for halo 3 on 360

  • 08.22.2006 6:36 PM PDT

Posted by: PlasbianX
I suggest you all read some of the tutorials for Halo Custom Edition map making, found here:

http://ghost.halomaps.org/tutorials/

Halo Custom Edition was the Editable form of halo1 for the PC. It allowed competely custom content. Now, im assuming, based on the app names for h2v, that the tools will be pretty much the same. And if they are, most of those tutorials are extremely similar. Such as the modelling, the tool commands, the guerilla parts, and the sapien parts. But thats only a guess. Hopefully it will be though, cause like i said, a lot of us are extremely experienced in HEK. And this is basically a HEK 2.0.

And you would need this all on your PC, and this wouldnt do xbox maps (i assume) without an external app, and a modded xbox, and a bunch of other map converters. Cause it is possible atm for comepetely new halo 1 maps, like.. as in... completely new. Like i could model a level from prince of persia, and using a converter make an xbox map. But halo2v is gonna be different from standard H2, so im sure the maps wont be the same coding. :(

Ah well... i just want more info, some pics, and for them to fix that spelling mistake i caught, then mention me as finding that mistake :P
ya i caught that mistake too.he spelt what hwat

  • 08.22.2006 6:41 PM PDT

Hawtness. As a huge fan of Halo PC and Custom Edition, I'm thrilled to hear that Sapien wioll come with hte game and won't have to be downloaded seperatly. Even more awesome maps to look foward to! Great update, can't wait for tomorrow! :D

  • 08.22.2006 6:52 PM PDT
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Posted by: Arizona Black
and i take it you can only play these maps on halo 2 vista? making the xbox version obsolete and basically forcing us to buy vista. this pisses me off, bungie abandons us after releasing 9 maps and a gameplay update so those of us who want more have to spend more on a game we dont really want (not a fan of pc games) if there were a way to download them with the content download option so you didnt have to play on pc I'd be delighted but that wouldnt make enough money for M$
*edit* i just remember i have a modded xbox lol... im sure I'll be able to play them


Lolerskates. You're hilarious. It doesn't matter if you have a modded xbox or not if the chache file isn't in a format for the console app. Get over yourself. If you're going to -blam!- about the lack of new content, then get out of a console.

  • 08.22.2006 7:00 PM PDT

That is incredibly awesome. I can't wait, however my wallet thinks otherwise...

  • 08.22.2006 7:09 PM PDT

So let me get this straight, unless we buy 3DSM, or get it illegally, we can't make new maps?

  • 08.22.2006 7:20 PM PDT
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H2V seems to be getting closer to being finished, but what about Windows Vista itself?

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The 'Mapmaking' feature sounds very interesting! I'm looking forward to the release of this game, and i'll certainly pick this one up.

  • 08.22.2006 7:41 PM PDT
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I guess Halo 3 wont have a map editor, because bungie did not to it in Halo 1 nor 2.
=(

  • 08.22.2006 7:48 PM PDT

Posted by: Rare Spartan
The 'Mapmaking' feature sounds very interesting! I'm looking forward to the release of this game, and i'll certainly pick this one up.
Pssh, don't wait! Pick up Halo PC and download Halo Custom Edition from Gearbox :D! Then just go to halomaps.org and a voila! Custom maps for all!

  • 08.22.2006 7:51 PM PDT
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What I think they need to do is make more interesting maps instead of allowing players to make them. The experienced will make maps to their advantage and slaughter the rest. What fun is that.
I will say a good idea is to make an indoors map that suddenly goes dark for about 3 sec. at unknown times. It would put some thrill into a map. Imagine a one on one assault and the lights go off. Gives you time to see how brilliant you come up with a move better than the opponent you were just facing!

  • 08.22.2006 8:08 PM PDT

Halo Custom Edition: p0lar_bearâ„¢
Favorite Server: Diesel PL 3rd Server - NY

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BioHalo v1.1a Singleplayer Map for CE

BUNGIE HAS CUT CUSTOM SINGLE-PLAYER SUPPORT FROM HALO 2 VISTA. COPY, PASTE, AND BOLDFACE THIS INTO YOUR SIGNATURE IF YOU ARE AGAINST THIS CUT.

Posted by: rombo man
So let me get this straight, unless we buy 3DSM, or get it illegally, we can't make new maps?

Not necessarily. If Halo 2 uses the same import method for BSPs as Halo 1, a JMS file, you can do it from GMax, which is totally free. Over at the Gearbox Software Forums, TheGhost created a MAXscript that exports JMS files, as well as animation files, from GMax and from 3DSMax. Also, there have been a few maps created by GMax users. Earlier maps by Arteen, such as Concat, and Fragment_V2, were made in GMax.

As for the development team, I BEG of you guys to leave in support for solo scenarios and user interfaces, as well as create a scripting tutorial for any script functions that were added to Halo 2, or changed from Halo CE! As pointed out by Zeph, many modding teams for Halo CE are making content in anticipation for Halo 2's PC release. Also, keep in mind that not everyone wants multiplayer; my uncle, for example, only played Halo, Far Cry, and many other games for the singleplayer campaign. He absolutely hates Unreal Tournament, for the fact that it's multiplayer only, unless you download a third-person mod. I even had to coax him to installing CE. :/

  • 08.22.2006 8:18 PM PDT

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Now try how and why."

Posted by: Arizona Black
and i take it you can only play these maps on halo 2 vista? making the xbox version obsolete and basically forcing us to buy vista. this pisses me off, bungie abandons us after releasing 9 maps and a gameplay update so those of us who want more have to spend more on a game we dont really want (not a fan of pc games) if there were a way to download them with the content download option so you didnt have to play on pc I'd be delighted but that wouldnt make enough money for M$
*edit* i just remember i have a modded xbox lol... im sure I'll be able to play them


You think your pissed? This is just a glimpse at what the oldschool bungie fans felt like


Anyway, somthing tells me these tools will never touch anvil and forge's caliber (relatively speaking of coarse)-HH

[Edited on 8/23/2006]

  • 08.22.2006 8:22 PM PDT
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It just seems another way for Bungie to rack in more moola. Another replier was right. Let's let Halo 2 die slowly like Halo 1 did and start focusing on some more important issues like HALO 3!

  • 08.22.2006 8:25 PM PDT

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My Maps:
BioHalo v1.1a Singleplayer Map for CE

BUNGIE HAS CUT CUSTOM SINGLE-PLAYER SUPPORT FROM HALO 2 VISTA. COPY, PASTE, AND BOLDFACE THIS INTO YOUR SIGNATURE IF YOU ARE AGAINST THIS CUT.

Posted by: rollinrolls
It just seems another way for Bungie to rack in more moola. Another replier was right. Let's let Halo 2 die slowly like Halo 1 did and start focusing on some more important issues like HALO 3!

I disagree with this post.

Halo 1 ain't dead. Just because Bungie removed the link from the sidebar on the main page doesn't mean it's dead. The [HIV] clan's server app has tracked over 3000 unique CE players, and there are thousands on Halo PC daily.

Also, you console fanboys told us PC fanboys to hush when there was no promise of a release for Halo 2 on PC. Now it's our turn.

[Edited on 8/22/2006]

  • 08.22.2006 8:29 PM PDT
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Oh. My. God. I just began to cry... I am so getting Vista!

  • 08.22.2006 8:41 PM PDT
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Posted by: p0lar_bear

As pointed out by Zeph, many modding teams for Halo CE are making content in anticipation for Halo 2's PC release. Also, keep in mind that not everyone wants multiplayer; my uncle, for example, only played Halo, Far Cry, and many other games for the singleplayer campaign. He absolutely hates Unreal Tournament, for the fact that it's multiplayer only, unless you download a third-person mod. I even had to coax him to installing CE. :/


While I know it will be possible unless forbidden by the engine itself, I just dont want this to happen:


Pi1: Hey, what's this field?
Pi2: Uhhhhhh, I guess it determines what type of level it is.
Pi1: So we dont need it, do we?
Pi2: Nah, we can just set it to be compiled as a multiplayer level by default.
Pi1: Aight.

  • 08.22.2006 8:49 PM PDT
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I SAY BUNDIE NEEDS to look into CRYENGINE Mapmaking, It is really user friendly and you could possibly release it to the XBOX and XBOX360 so people online could play some good custom games......look into it, Farcry is nutorious for its mapmaker....have one just like it but halo style and have TONS of content to use....Also Im not a big fan of using the mouse for shooting so release a usb xbox controller WITH it and Ill deffinitly buy it. Cause im not hunting for one of those.....hack free please!

  • 08.22.2006 8:55 PM PDT
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i'm getting windows vista, and i need an upgrade! sux! windows vista has SO MANY REQUIREMENTS, but some of the gateway, hp pavillion, and alienware computers have met the requirements, especially all of the alienware computers!! but, alienware needs to have liquid refilling, it costs like 4$ per bottle and takes 5 bottles of cooling liquid to fill the alienware computer! DELL DIMENSION 1100 SUX!! DON"T BUY IT! Although, on dell.com there is a individual Dimension 1100 with windows vista capability already! my dad thinks that every computer can install windows vista, but i dissed him, wrong! I could read, he can't! pity *sniffle*. Intel Extreme Graphics 2 doesn't support Halo Pc, Intel graphics cards don't support halo pc, and probably won't support Halo 2 Vista and Windows Vista! Windows XP is already like 100$+ and Vista will probably be like 145$+ (united states DOLLARS DUH!) and, my family probably can't afford even 2 computer windows vista upgrades and windows vista itself......life is so hard...and i'm gonna ask my dad to gimme a windows vista upgrade on my slow, moving, turtlish, idiotic, before-blam!--future technology!!! and he's probably gonna give to me on birthday and with my christmas gift, halo 2 pc, well, a promise to buying it! my parents already hate me playing halo pc and ce, they think its ruining my whole life, physically and mentally, well.....my parents just hate halo pc, they don't ev3n want to think about halo 2 vista pc. SAD! well, i'm buy ing it by my self, even if it costs like 49.99$ (like star wars battlefront II or whatever the name was).

  • 08.22.2006 8:59 PM PDT
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I would have liked to have seen some screen shots or maybe a video. Meh maybe thats just me. Nice though. *now how to afford windows vista*

  • 08.22.2006 9:27 PM PDT
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I am actuely disapointed because i love consol gaming and i have just started to try pc (and i dont like it) so just think, for halo 3 there is probebly going to be a pc version witch will be so much better then the one on the consol, on the pc its going to have a map editor, most likily better graphics and other crazy stuff, so what im saying is i am waysting my money on a consol witch pises me off because sooner or later us consol gamers are going to be left behind

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  • 08.22.2006 10:14 PM PDT
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halo 2 multiplayer > any other MMOFPS including halo CE cuz halo CE blows

  • 08.22.2006 10:18 PM PDT

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