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Subject: This is ridiculous.
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Well like many, im pissed with some of the settings on the bungie servers. Dont get my wrong, Iam gratefull for the servers they have (as theyre the only playable servers unless you like playing in lag) but something has to be done.

I have played first person games for years. I love online multiplayer games and spent the last 2 years playing a similar game religously. Its called Legends of Might and Magic, not many play it but it has a very loyal community and a general sense of honor and dignity within the game.

When Halo came out for PC I was excited. Looked like a nice tweaked game that I could hopefully go and find yet another communty of good players. Sadly though the game lacks many elements that are very important to team play and some of the settings on your servers make it next to impossible to have a fair game.

Seems every night Im getting betrayed by some moron with obviously nothing better to do. And with no servers (with reasonable lag and # of players) with no friendly fire.

The other night I was playing and getting constantly betrayed by two of my teamates. After awhile I got pissed and shot the losers so I could atleast still play. So I carry on playing. Next time I die sure enough there's the loser shooting me again. So I again begin shooting him. Before I could even finish the moron off I got banned.

I understand that your banning system is necesary, but it has flaws and can be unfair for players like myself and Im sure many others. Now I have been banned for the past few days for what? defending myself/trying to play?

Some information on what exactly gets someone banned would be appreciated and for the love of god give us a non friendly fire server ... well those that can still play.

[Edited on 5/21/2004 2:58:03 PM]

  • 05.21.2004 2:57 PM PDT

Simple solution - don't retaliate.
You are automatically, and temporarily, banned for a few teamkills within a certain amount of time. This is to stop TKing twats from over-running the game. It has it flaws, in that it is piss-easy to beat, but it's better than nothing.

  • 05.21.2004 3:03 PM PDT
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How can it be a certain number of kills in an amount of time when I didnt even kill him before I got banned?

  • 05.21.2004 3:05 PM PDT

You probably did, and then got banned straight away.

  • 05.21.2004 3:15 PM PDT
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this has happened to a member of my clan before, i was on the same team as him, and he was complaining about being team killed, but he didn't know who was doing it, i followed him round a few times and found out who was team killing him (forgot the name though) and just after he team killed this guy to prevent him team killing him, he was banned, turns out the guy who was doing all the team killing was a admin, as i joined a game few weeks later on a bungie server and accidently shot this guy when he ran infront of me, i didn't kill him, but he went berserk, he started team killing me non stop and when i asked him what his problem was he replied "you team killed me", when i hadnt but i had shot him, but was not my fault, he then said "you wanna be kicked" to me after i told him i had done no such thing and it was his fualt, not mine

so perhaps this is the same rogue admin, or perhaps another one

  • 05.22.2004 1:05 AM PDT

It couldn't have been an official Bungie server, but if it was then complain to HomeLAN.

  • 05.22.2004 1:53 AM PDT
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i think it was this server

EU-BUNGIE-CTF-5 - 213.199.132.82:2302

i dont go on bungie servers much now anyway, coz i get bit of lag off em (before anyone says its my connection ive got 750k cable inet)

  • 05.22.2004 6:55 AM PDT
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I feel your pain, but sadly, there will always be those people who insist on TKing and ruin the gaming experience for everyone else. Not just in Halo, but in every FPS with Friendly fire enabled. All you can do is sit back, hope he gets banned fast, and dont retaliate. If it was an admin, compain to Bungie and go to a different server. If not, wait for Halo 2 on Xbox live.

  • 05.22.2004 7:17 AM PDT

If it was an admin, compain to Bungie and go to a different server.
Neither Bungie, Microsoft or Gearbox have any say over non-official servers.
EU-BUNGIE-CTF-5 - 213.199.132.82:2302
I didn't think anyone bothered to admin the EU servers.

  • 05.22.2004 8:11 AM PDT
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I think team killers should be permanetly baned. One time when I was Blue one of my guy got a Rocket warthog andkept shooting at our base the when I fragged him I got baned from his game. I was Pissed.

  • 05.22.2004 8:44 AM PDT
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Still banned. Has been atleast 4 days now, can someone please tell me how long this is going to last?

.... sigh.

  • 05.22.2004 2:54 PM PDT
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Still banned, still ignored. Thanks.

  • 05.24.2004 6:44 PM PDT

-S

No post bumping. And most likely you were permabanned.

The moral of the story? DON'T TK. An admin probably noticed he was tking you, then saw you start to tk back and banned you both.

  • 05.24.2004 7:05 PM PDT
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omg pwned lol!!!11!1!!1one!1

  • 05.24.2004 7:17 PM PDT

Its all fun and games until someone gets an eye poked out, then its just fun that you can't see any more.

Posted by: Cube
i think it was this server

EU-BUNGIE-CTF-5 - 213.199.132.82:2302

i dont go on bungie servers much now anyway, coz i get bit of lag off em (before anyone says its my connection ive got 750k cable inet)


EU-Bungie-* are Bungie servers also, just located in Europe.

  • 05.24.2004 10:19 PM PDT
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EU-Bungie-* are Bungie servers also, just located in Europe.[/quote]

no kidding.....

  • 05.25.2004 2:21 AM PDT
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Permanently banned .... thats ridiculous.

Clearly if that is the case this is the last Bungie game i'll buy.

  • 05.26.2004 6:15 PM PDT
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The betraying thing on bungie doesnt work as well as it could, i mean most of the time people who betray dont get banned and wreck the game for others.

  • 05.27.2004 9:16 AM PDT
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Yeah, I've had to deal with this. Worst part is when the player who is team killing is all angry when they are killed, or a teammate switches to the other side so they can retaliate.

Another bad experience is when one player on the opposing team was not really good- bad, actually- and because I could kill him on foot, sniping, tanking, by banshee, etc. he went and booted me. Just because he can't stand getting beaten. So I rejoin, and the ____wad goes and boots me because I'm coming back for a more fair game. Now that's the kind of player that shouldn't be playing as host.

  • 05.27.2004 10:39 PM PDT
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The way i see it is, Bungie need to do THREE things

1) Sort out the lag on there EU servers (located in Ireland), its really bad, and i live in the UK
2) Sort out the admins on the servers, remove all the current admins not doing there job and replace them with new 1s who will do there job correctly
3) Put an auto tk ban on the servers, its not hard at all. i recommend tk forgive as 5mins and tk ban as between 5-10 no higher then 10, as 5 is alot

doing these things would make people flock to bungie servers and have them not wishing they'd joined that server. As ive seen in some games on bunige servers people saying things like "last time i buy a game by bungie" or "im not coming here again"

what do you all think??

  • 05.28.2004 12:02 AM PDT
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I Agree with you Silence. I have just had the same problem. It was to the point where i had to teamkill someone to even stay alive, as he was teamkilling me before i could get out of the base. I was banned for teamkilling him back, and he gloated about how he won after i was banned. (My brother was still in the server). If this was a perma-ban, there is no way i am ever buying a game from Bungie, or a game that Bungie has anything to do with. Just as Silence put it " This is ridiculous " If this is honestly how an auto-admin system works, then they better start putting some serious work into it.

  • 05.28.2004 9:32 PM PDT
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Posted by: Lin Kuei CORK
If this is honestly how an auto-admin system works, then they better start putting some serious work into it.


no its not, the auto ban feature on halo works very well indeed, its just bungie servers are over run by team killers since theres no autoban feature and the "admins" do it as well

  • 05.29.2004 1:12 AM PDT
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WEll, how come halo is one of the few games without a 'kick' feature to get rid of players that betray? I mean QUAKE2 had it, loads of other games too, why cant a brilliant game like HALO have?

  • 05.30.2004 4:04 AM PDT
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WEll, how come halo is one of the few games without a 'kick' feature to get rid of players that betray? I mean QUAKE2 had it, loads of other games too, why cant a brilliant game like HALO have?


halo does have a kick feature

  • 05.30.2004 12:14 PM PDT
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It was a temp ban, but i still believe that the system needs more work, as the original teamkiller killed me about twice as much as i killed him. And yeah, it does have a kick feature.

  • 05.30.2004 7:19 PM PDT

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